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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
12/29/2001
16:21:56
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 Subject: best V6 catback (jba gibson etc)
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What is the best catback system to get for a V6 4x4(because a lot of systems seem not to fit on 4x4s) is JBA evol better then gibson or is it just more expensive and why does it fit 97-99 and not 2000-2002? is it just that they never tried or is their a difference. also how important is it to get SS and not aluminum? and why does truckperformance.com say that these systems add like 22 hp is that even possible???
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Lesley
GenIII
12/29/2001
17:55:31
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I can only give you my opinion on a couple of your questions: Stainless is better than aluminum because it lasts soooo much longer. A new catback adds to performance because a.) the muffler is better quality than stock, usually flow-through (and sounds better!) and b.) the connecting pipes are usually larger in diameter, improving flow. I bought a Borla catback off ebay for an incredible price, as it had been only used for a month. However, it had been custom modified by an exhuast shop and the attached pieces were aluminized. Nice, but my stock system is steel, so I just got the muffler cut into my stock exhaust. It is a beautiful thing, air-craft grade steel with a million mile warranty and the sound is superb.
97 3.9 CC Sport. Black. Auto 3.55
Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers, Autolite 3923s, stainless Borla Turbo XL, V8 R/T TB,
Awaiting Installation: FMS fuel injectors
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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
12/29/2001
18:26:20
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what about jba catbacks?? anyone have one?
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bernd
*GenIII*
12/30/2001
01:23:17
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Yes, I have one and love it. I'm an old Flowmaster die-hard and am very impressed with the JBA (actually K&N) system.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.65 @ 95.01mph
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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
12/30/2001
11:09:28
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ok so next question is will the system for 97-99 4x2 fit on a 2000 4x4? (jba told me they were going to make one that did but who knows how long it will take)
also is it stupid to get headers before catback?
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Lesley
GenIII
12/30/2001
11:34:04
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I dunno - I did, but that's just how it happened - found a great deal on the JBA stainless, so I bought them.
97 3.9 CC Sport. Black. Auto 3.55
Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers, Autolite 3923s, stainless Borla Turbo XL, V8 R/T TB,
Awaiting Installation: FMS fuel injectors
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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
12/30/2001
14:19:38
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so headers alone will give you a performance gain w/o catback??
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bernd
*GenIII*
12/30/2001
14:30:30
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To a point, yes.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.65 @ 95.01mph
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Lesley
GenIII
12/30/2001
14:46:16
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I'd go with a cat-back and TB first.
97 3.9 CC Sport. Black. Auto 3.55
Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers, Autolite 3923s, stainless Borla Turbo XL, V8 R/T TB,
Awaiting Installation: FMS fuel injectors
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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
12/30/2001
23:40:08
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yeah but jba doesnt make catback for 2000 4x4 v6 yet unless its easy to modify it or if it fits as is. does anyone have jba(k&n) on a 2000 4x4???
im gonna have money soon i wanna get something
hopefully ill be ready for a powerdyne at 36000, bernd.......(at 17XXX now :-) )
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Lesley
GenIII
12/31/2001
00:00:50
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What about a TB upgrade?
97 3.9 CC Sport. Black. Auto 3.55
Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers, Autolite 3923s, stainless Borla Turbo XL, V8 R/T TB,
Awaiting Installation: FMS fuel injectors
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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
12/31/2001
00:06:14
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sounds hard to do i wanna do the exhaust first
but maybe that flowmetrics billet thing sounds pretty cool
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Lesley
GenIII
12/31/2001
00:15:13
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Nooooo, it isn't hard! Easier than an exhaust - I would never do that on my own!
97 3.9 CC Sport. Black. Auto 3.55
Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers, Autolite 3923s, stainless Borla Turbo XL, V8 R/T TB,
Awaiting Installation: FMS fuel injectors
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Lesley
GenIII
12/31/2001
00:22:43
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Also, Bernd's Speedtweaks site as well as quickd.com have really good instructions step by step on how to do it.
97 3.9 CC Sport. Black. Auto 3.55
Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers, Autolite 3923s, stainless Borla Turbo XL, V8 R/T TB,
Awaiting Installation: FMS fuel injectors
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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
12/31/2001
01:04:06
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u did the V8 swap right
i wanna get the flowmetrics one sounds like it does more
are you gonna get yours supercharged??
every check your ~0-60 im curious cause my truck is just like yours except 4x4 and 3.92
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Lesley
GenIII
12/31/2001
01:29:28
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No, not yet. The weather hasn't been good enough for the 0-60 thing, it being Canada :). As soon as the roads get better, I have a sister who is a pro with a stop-watch (trained race-horses in Florida) who is going to help me.
I did the TB swap with the help of a friend who worked in racing (pit crews) which was lucky because my experience is pretty limited. It isn't that hard if you follow the instructions.
I don't know about supercharging - who knows? Maybe after my mortgage is paid off :) Course, I never thought that I would want headers either.
97 3.9 CC Sport. Black. Auto 3.55
Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers, Autolite 3923s, stainless Borla Turbo XL, V8 R/T TB,
Awaiting Installation: FMS fuel injectors
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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
12/31/2001
02:37:23
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yeah should have gotten 4x4 fun in the snow
all ive installed is intake and throttle body spacer
but i think i could do exhaust
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NJQCDak
GenIII
12/31/2001
13:02:23
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I got the SS single side Gibson. Installation was a breeze. Taking off the old system was difficult. I hacked the back end of the muffler and you need to make slit cuts long the tube to release the old muffler from the cat tube. The factory clamps makes a indent which the old muffler tough to take off. SS is for longevity. Flometrics 48mm TB is nice. Bernd indicated that the Flometrics has a better gain across the RPMs than a v8 TB. But funds are a concern or you want supercharge it, go with a stock V8 TB and then change to a bigger Flometrics 50mm. The Throttle body spacer is worthless. Check out www.speedtweaks.net.
'01 QC Sport, 3.9L V6, 5spd, 2wd, Volant Intake,
SS Gibson exhaust, MSD Wires, Accel Super Coil, NAPA Cap, Flometrics Billet 48mm TB
Soon: Autolites 3923s
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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
1/06/2002
05:15:01
| RE: best V6 catback (jba gibson etc)
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yeah i know the spacer is worthless....ugh....anyone wanna buy it!!!! :-)
$50 e-mail me.
anyway i ordered the gibson single side (aluminized steel) stainless was to much and if i was gonna get stainless i would have rather had jba at that price.
Is there any way to get the stock system off without tearing it appart cause i sort of want to save it in case the aluminum one rusts or something?
also did it add it more or less then the intake??
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NJQCDak
GenIII
1/06/2002
11:58:28
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Try heating the tubes first and yanking from behind the muffler. I heard extra hands can help. I bought Gibson before JBA bought out K&N. Good luck.
'01 QC Sport, 3.9L V6, 5spd, 2wd, Volant Intake,
SS Gibson exhaust, MSD Wires, Accel Super Coil, NAPA Cap, Flometrics Billet 48mm TB
Soon: Autolites 3923s
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