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vern
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2/25/2003
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check out www.eagle-reseach.com ,they have a device that fools the computer about the O2 sensor signal,so you can richen or lean your fuel mixure,also water injection,50-200 mile per gallon carbs.yes you read it right.
it cost you ooooth,and could save you $$$$$$$$.hope this helps some of you.
i,d be glad to hear your feelings on the devices they offer.
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Brian C
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What a dumbass site... full of bulshiat ...
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Jon
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Water injection has been around for years, all it does is cool combustion temps in high performance vehicles, it doesn't actually burn and make your vehicle move. I didn't see the o2 sensor thing on the site but those devices have been around also, problem is if you run your engine any leaner than normal and it destroys it. If you run it richer you can gain some power, however your gas milage goes down the tubes and it will clog your cat. The carb thing is just BS. They sell kits that say will increase your milage by 25%. Anyone who knows how to tune carbs can do that without any parts. besides if they had a behicle that got 9000mpg like the say it would have made the national news.
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vern
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2/25/2003
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the o2 device is EFIE..i know holley made water injection and before most on this sight was born.
about 25yrs ago a man in florida made a carb that got 75-100 miles per gallon,this made national tv news
auto and oil companies buy this tech.before anyone can built these carbs.the info. is out there they[oil,auto]don,t want the world to have it.
what do you think its doing when most everyone on this sight are doing moving the ait sensor out in the air intake tube?
RICHEN THERE FUEL MIXURE!!!!!THANK-YOU VERY MUCH!!!
try broading your mind.
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Jon
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My mind is plenty broad.
The IAT sensor richens the mixture a very slight amount and changes ignition timing only under certain conditions. The computer is always switching between rich and lean anyways to keep the cat happy.
If we could make carbs that get 200mpg then why do the car companies spend billions on hybrids and fuel cells? Instead they could just build carbs that get 50mpg and keep the govt and enviromentalists happy for years.
Their EFIE devices runs the engine lean which WILL increase your gas milage but can also damage your engine. Also by changing the o2 sensor signal that is received by the computer and making the engine run lean the cat convertor will not have the right combination of gases that it needs to reduce NOX. On their site they stated that HC, and CO emissions are reduced (which is normal for a vehicle running lean) But they don't give a measeurement of NOX which is an even worse pollutant than the other 2 and would definitely be increased by their system. This would definitely cause it to fail the federal IM240 emmisions test so it could never be installed on a vehicle sold by a car company. Ask them if there products carry a California CARB EO number.
My wall of certs as well as a little bit of an engineering background can attest to the fact that although i don't know much about dodges i know a lot about general automotive technology. Even modern EFI internal combustion engines are nearing the upper limit of efficiency and economy. There is no $15 device that will make a 20 year old carbed vehicle get anywhere close to 200mpg. You won't even get 50mpg on any decent sized vehicle (i'm not talking geo metros)without increasing emissions and reducing drivabiility and durability. I would like to see someone do a full stock rebuild on a carbed engine, install there system and have the engine still be able to tow the maximum rating of the vehicle and beable to run for 200,000 miles.
-Jon
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no-neck
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2/25/2003
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ugh. . . and the aliens have landed too, huh? what a jackass site. great tips on suriving the next holocaust at the bottom of the page.lol Nice quasi-utopian cult site you got there.
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vern
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2/26/2003
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first i,d like to thank-you for all your in-put.
next i,d like to thank persons and companies that have the [b..lls] to add to or go agaisnt the grain!like Ben Franklin,Thomas Edison and Herny Ford etc.
i,m not saying,nor is eagle research that all their ideas are to everyones way of thinking or concept.but with a open mind and ideaism that all things can be improved on..
now eagle research say several of their ideas pass calf.emissions .the hydro-carbon oxygenator and hyzor technology for example.
jon,congratulation on your wall of cert. so you should understand more than most about going agaisnt conventional thinking.
i thank GOD that there are people who are,nt afraid to invent new ideas or improve on old ones.for we would be still living in the ice-age.
again thank-you,
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slopehead
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2/26/2003
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to get 200 mpg you would have to run the engines in our trucks so lean they would get so hot inside that the pistons would hole in less then 5 miles. but i have a revolutionary new engine that runs on hydrogen and gets around 100 miles on a cubic litre of uncompressed hydrogen. come on oil and car companies, make me rich.
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no-neck
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let me guess. is it ceramic? A ceramic engine could theoretically handle the heat in such a way that these engines would work. Not sure what kind of motor mounts you would need or what kind of safety equipment you would be looking at but in theory it would handle the heat. The problem with these utopian ideas is that, whether they work or not, the brains rarely have the money to make it a reality.
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Jon
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Heats not the major problem. If you run any leaner that around a 16:1 a/f ratio then you will get lean misfire because there is not enough fuel vapor in the air to make it flammable. If you only have 1 or 2 cylinders running that lean it will misfire and dump raw fuel (what little amount there is) down the exhaust. If the whole engine is running lean it wouldn't even start.
-Jon
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no-neck
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Don't get me wrong. I totally agree with you Jon. I'm referring to the hydrogen fueled vehicle in the post above mine. I read in popular mechanics (I think that was the magazine) about a ceramic engine that ran so hot that it could actually ustilize water to run by breaking out the hydrogen and leaving oxygen as the exhaust. I don't really understand the full details of this supposed operation but it sounded a little far fetched to me. But then again, the car companies have come out with hydrogen only cars that seem to work. Too bad there's that little problem of being dangerous to fill up.
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Marky522
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I have also heard bits and pieces of the carb that got like 50-60 MPG, but the oil co. bought it up and made it dissappear. The reason they are dumping soooooo much money into the hybrids and stuff of that nature is cause they are trying to totallyget away from using the fossil fuels, and that is a good start.
Mark
P.S. due tothe reviews of the aformentioned site i DID NOT visit it :)
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Mac
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Hay people
Perhaps this is to simple for some of you but here it is .You CAN make hydrogen from water. Hydrogen is 3 times more powerful than lp.You all know some cars have been converted to run on lp.Most of the people driveing these cars will tell you they are to doggy, Not enough power.If you take a 1 Qt. jar fill it with water add 1 or 2 spoon's of bat. acid place two metal rods in the jar conect your bat. charger to the rods pos to one neg to the other you will see tiny bubbles start to form. You have just split the hydrogen atom, The bubbles forming on the neg side are hydrogen and VERRY explosive. This is browns gas I have two of these bosters on my gmc snoma. This works! get your head out of the sand or keep on feeding the oil co. If not for the net. you would never here about this , Big bro. would keep it from you just as they have for the last 100 years.
See hydrogen generators , Tesla, Browns gas,fuel cells,. But only if you wish to break your chains and stop feeding the rich. Some people have been running their cars on water for 5 years or more. This process also reduces emisions. Check it out!!
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sceptic
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9/29/2004
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where some documentation???????????????????
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mac
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First off If I were to hand it to you it wouldn't mean much to you. But if you will do a small bit of serching you will find what you call documentation. Check out what mazda did with a rotery motor, Also know they did an expearimental number that ran on hydrogen. I tell you to serch this only if you want to prove to yourself it is real. Just because one dosn't see it on the govt. controled TV dosn't make it false. I have noticed a lot of neg. feedback on the web about this sience. Wonder how many of those people have been paid by the govt. to discredit these projects and keep we the people in the dark??????????????? As for me , I have put this hydrogen booster on my truck and all I can tell you is it is working and in doing so saveing me big $$$. But hay! Gas is gona go up around $2.00 so Don't look at this voo doo sience Just keep on forking over your hard earned money. Your govt. will love you for it. Peace be with you brother..
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mac
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First off If I were to hand it to you it wouldn't mean much to you. But if you will do a small bit of serching you will find what you call documentation. Check out what mazda did with a rotery motor, Also know they did an expearimental number that ran on hydrogen. I tell you to serch this only if you want to prove to yourself it is real. Just because one dosn't see it on the govt. controled TV dosn't make it false. I have noticed a lot of neg. feedback on the web about this sience. Wonder how many of those people have been paid by the govt. to discredit these projects and keep we the people in the dark??????????????? As for me , I have put this hydrogen booster on my truck and all I can tell you is it is working and in doing so saveing me big $$$. But hay! Gas is gona go up around $2.00 so Don't look at this voo doo sience Just keep on forking over your hard earned money. Your govt. will love you for it. Peace be with you brother..
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H2 Man
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I have done some research on Brown's Gas and using H2 as a fuel source in a conventional IC engine. It is a valid alternative but mostly used by enthusiasts and has little commercial potential. The big problem of burning H2 in an engine is the problem of implosion during the power cycle. The H2 mixes with the 02 and when a spark happens, the result is heat and steam (plus other bits and pieces). The problem is the steam. If the steam condenses from outside cooler air, it compresses and could theoretically crunch the block. Think of what happens if you boil water in a can, then put the lid on it. Once the steam cools the can becomes squashed.
The problem can be over come, but requires some development and >ahem< money.
The big car companies are in cahoots with the oil companies and only work on H2 FC cars to placate the governments (and to get tons of free money). The result is that the auto companies will never make FC cars until the oil companies build a duplicate infrastructure paralleling the gasoline infrastructure, and the oil compaines wont do that because they are making too much money milking us for our gas. In the meantime we keep getting fed sound bytes showing the "future" of the automobile in a hollow fashion.
I know I sound cynical, and probably am, but its the small inventor, like myself that will make the next big discovery that will push the nesxt evolution of the IC into reality.
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Gonzo
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Sorry guys,
But take it from a mechanical engineer - the next big discovery won't be from the small time inventor. IC engines now a days are moving in a direction that eventually, only the highly skilled will be able to understand. The next revolution won't come from something that can be added to the engine. There is entirely too much going on in a new engine. It's all variable now, and controlled by computers to match conditions and demands on the engine. Simply bolting something on won't have the same effect anymore since the engines are being designed to be able to run optimally all the time. It will take a major overhaul of the engine design to actually change things. Look at what the hemi did back in the day, and is still doing now. Major design change that changed the thermal and volumetric efficiencies of the engine. IC's engines will require a complete redesign (looking like nothing we have seen before) in order for a so called revolutionary change to take place.
That's just the way it is now...
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MSNBC
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"Today, by far the cheapest way to produce hydrogen is by using steam and catalysts to break down natural gas into H2 and CO2. But 15 per cent of the energy in natural gas is lost as waste heat during the re-forming process. The upshot, according to Pete Devlin, who runs a hydrogen production programme at the US Department of Energy, is that it costs $5 to produce the amount of hydrogen that releases as much energy as a gallon of gasoline."
Here's the entire article:
"A dream of a hydrogen economy"
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reform man
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Direct Reformation of H2 from a Hydrocarbon fuel source still releases quantities of carbon dioxide and other nasty by-products. Another big problem with the reformation of H2 from these petroleum based fuels is that the quality of the H2 is not sufficiently adequate to prevent premature failure in a standard PEM type fuel cell, which is poisoned by carbon molecules. In fact the carbon deposits on the Proton Exchange Membrane causing a "hot spot" to form and subsequently lowering the electrical potential of the fuel cell and a general degrading of the unit. It cannot be fixed in circuit but needs to be replaced completely. The only real clean source of H2 for use in PEM style FC's is derived from water, pure and simple. Lets face it water is 2 Hydrogen molecules and one oxygen molecule. When split, there is an abundance of each gas, and if left to vent into the atmosphere will cause no ill affect whatsoever. Also, since there is no carbon, there is no poisoning of the PEMembrane.
and for the record, the average cost for a standard fuel cell is $3000 per KW, so if you wanted to buy a 1000 watt electrical generator, it would cost $3000, easy as pi
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damien
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hi there
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