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Mike
Dodge Dakota
9/23/2001
14:55:41
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Anyone have a cure for pinging?? i've had the computer flashed twice, changed my plugs and t-stat, and it still pings!!! arrgghhh!!! any help is appreciated;)
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Remil
Dodge Dakota
9/23/2001
16:24:23
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when you had your computer flashed did they at least do a diagonistic test of any trouble codes, it might be the o2 sensor is giving a false reading and causing the computer to give out a lean mixture
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nathan
Dodge Dakota
9/24/2001
19:10:31
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I had some pinging when ever I would stomp on the gas real hard(like at the track). My mods consist of JBA headers, Dynomax 3" catback, airaid intake, and MSD 6A box w/ MSD 8.5mm wires. What I found to cure it was going to a higher octane gas (mid-grade). So far I have not had any more problems and I have also been to the track to test it out. I have also read that most chips or flashed PCM's will require higher octane gas anyway.
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Jeff
Dodge Dakota
9/24/2001
19:59:31
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I get pinging in ALL gears at ALL speeds if the truck is hot. It goes away when I really punch it. Wierd huh?
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blueballs
Dodge Dakota
9/24/2001
21:01:00
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I took mine to the dealer he said it was the new roller cam. Yea right. I'll take it back one more time and if they don't fix it; it will have a rod hanging out of the side of the block before i get home. love the warrenty. mine does it cold, hot, slow, fast, and not for long.
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98SPRTV6
Dodge Dakota
9/25/2001
10:01:54
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What gas are ya'll running? I run 89 constantly and every 3000 miles I run a tank of 93 w/ a bottle of NOS Octane booster (Street formula). Then only time I have ever heard pinging coming from my truck is when I try and run 87 octane gas!! I hope this helps!!
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Jeff
Dodge Dakota
9/25/2001
10:11:43
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Uggg Our gas here goes 83 87 91 I use 87 because the manual says 85. Our state (Colorado) also has the highest gas tax in the nation. I pay 160 to 170 for that crappy 87. I wonder if its time to take mine in.
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98SPRTV6
Dodge Dakota
9/25/2001
10:43:56
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Before you do that you might want to get a bottle of NOS Octane Booster (Street Formula) and try it in a tank of gas!!
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Raven95TSi
Dodge Dakota
9/25/2001
11:14:47
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I've only had my truck for about a month or so, but when I first picked it up, I had noticed some pinging, but not much. Switched over to 93 octane, and the truck runs awesome. Use a higher octane, you're much less prone to premature detonation ;).
Jamie
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93 DAKOTA
Dodge Dakota
9/25/2001
16:54:37
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I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM ON MY 93 WHEN I PUT IN THE AUTOLITE 3923 PLUGS THE PROBLEM WENT AWAY AND I AM STILL RUNNING UNLEADED REGULAR WITH NO PROBLEMS
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Mike
Dodge Dakota
9/25/2001
20:33:08
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Hmm, i'm still running 87 octane. broke college student here ;) I'll try some 89 when i go to pendleton this weekend. is it possible altitude changes affect pinging, also? I've gone thru some severe ones, and it seems to take a while to adjust...
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Zed
Dodge Dakota
9/26/2001
00:31:18
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You shouldn't have to run high octane gas, its a waste of money and seems to decrease milage when i've used it. Have any of you ever had the pan gasket on the the bottom of the intake manifold replaced yet?? Bet ya 5 bucks thats why you're pinging if you've already flashed the computer and went to colder plugs and it still pings. That leaky gasket causes causes a vaccum leak, leaning out the air\fuel mixture too much and causes detonation.
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Travis
Dodge Dakota
9/26/2001
08:17:52
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Try changing your coolant temp sensor (located next to the thermostat housing). This sensor is one of the primary factors in determining fuel/air ratios and timing. They're only about $10 and takes only a few minutes to change. Give it a try.
'97 V6 4x4
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Zed
Dodge Dakota
9/26/2001
08:29:35
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NO, intake pan gasket!!! Its a TSB for newer daks!!!
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Jeff
Dodge Dakota
9/26/2001
12:07:33
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I looked down inside the TB as the TSB for the intake pan gasket says and I do not see standing oil. So I dont think mine is the intake pan gasket.. But I have not replaced spark plugs, I have no idea whats in it now. I have stock thermostat and I have not have the PCM flashed. I was wondering if I should take it to the dealor to try that?
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Mike
Dodge Dakota
9/26/2001
13:08:03
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i've never had that pan gasket checked, actually...i'll have to get it done. the coolant temp sensor?? i'll take a look under the hood next time it's up.... kind of off subject, but how is everyone else fairing with the 5 speed/v6?? mine is very very temperamental shifting in hte morning, and is usually rough to shift no matter what i try...thoughts?
Mike
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Zaurusman
Dodge Dakota
9/26/2001
22:56:50
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Mike, what year is yours? They used different trannies different years. I have a '98 (AX-18 or something like that) and it's always notchy, moreso when cold. Not to fix that, I've changed fluid, switched to synthetic, without any noticeable change. It's more resistant than my '81 Omni and '94 Ranger were, but all my sticks changed with temp and this one with humidity. HTH.
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Zaurusman
'98 RC V6 5spd
http://www.tiborsrealm.com/Dakota/Index.htm
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Mike
Dodge Dakota
9/26/2001
23:22:30
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Mine's a 2000. According to the build sheet i got on it, it has the NV 3500 HD 5-speed tranny. I'm at 29000 miles, so i'm thinking of gettin the fluid changed at my next service at the dealer.
glad to hear i'm not the only one with a crabby manual tranny;)
Mike
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98SPRTV6
Dodge Dakota
9/27/2001
09:48:05
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Mine does it too! I have a 98' with an AX-15 tranny and 80,000 miles on the odometer, once I get about 5 miles from the house it is fine. Mike if you do have a NV-3500 in yours then you have the 5.2L tranny and it should be better than ours.
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Zaurusman
Dodge Dakota
9/27/2001
22:09:58
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Yeah, AX-15, thanks 98SPRTV6. Too many numbers to remember! The NV3500 is considered a heavy duty trans, right? Well either way, that type of shifting resistance is in the linkage or synchros, not the drive gears, so it's not a question of durability. Even if you don't get it all the way through the gate and scrape, you're not grinding the drive gears. I read a really cool explanation of auto & manual transmissions on www.howstuffworks.com.
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'98 RC V6 5spd
http://www.tiborsrealm.com/Dakota/Index.htm
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Bill
Dodge Dakota
10/03/2001
16:46:47
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I have a 2001 Dakota SLT 4x4 with a 3.9 V6 and have never heard it ping once. I always run the cheap 87 octane stuff and it runs fine. Even when I stomp full blast on the gas she drops down into the low gears without any pinging.
http://members.aol.com/btaylor04/BTruck.html
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Mike
Dodge Dakota
10/04/2001
21:36:42
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I'm trying some gas line cleaner to see if it clears this up. I also wonder if i didn't pick up some bad gas. or maybe altitude, though i've never heard for sure it affects pinging?
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FIJIGabe
Dodge Dakota
10/10/2001
18:39:56
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i've got the AX-15 tranny and its always been hard to shift (especially downshifting) but not until i got the fluid changed did i have a problem with it sticking... i think its just a horrible tranny, but it doesn't break like the other ones out there... i'll keep it in there till i get my next truck and turn my current V6 into a project truck.
again... check out my site and drop me a line.
http://frontpage.tripod.com/fijigabe0
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Mike G.
Dodge Dakota
11/24/2001
09:27:47
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I've got a '99 Dakota Sport V6 auto and I have the pinging too. I have tried a fuel additive to clean fuel system and no luck. Also, when I shift into reverse, the truck jumps hard, doesn't seem normal. I have had the truck for about 5 weeks, and it has 46,000 miles. what do you think?
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Todd W
Dodge Dakota
11/24/2001
18:15:33
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Mike,
I've got the same as you (V6, 5-speed, 2000, NV3500 and 20200 miles) and don't have difficulty in the morning. Well... if I park in a hill sometimes it doesn't want to come _out_ of gear, but I suspect that has something to do with the fact there was a load on it all night.
Other than that, I get a pinging tick between 2250 and 3000 RPM only. Not sure what it is, it seems to come from the passenger side, rear of the engine. I'm not too worried, it almost sounds like an exhaust problem to me, or some sort of soliniod. I run 87 most of the time, 89 every fourth fill up or so (or when it's cheap), and it seems to like that better.
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Cal
Dodge Dakota
11/25/2001
16:30:57
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I'd start with the oxygen sensor. A bad one can do horrible things to your computer settings. Replacing mine also cured the 2500rpm ticking. I was failing smog with rediculous Nox readings until the O2 unit was replaced. Everything is just great now.
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Mike G.
Dodge Dakota
11/25/2001
18:05:17
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Todd,
I have the pinging noise when the engine warms up, especially when it shifts into overdrive, mine is the auto. What do you think about the hard shift into reverse? It jumps. All the other gears are fine and are smooth. I am going to look into getting the 02 sensor replaced when I get the truck serviced next week. Thanks for your suggestion.
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BobH
Dodge Dakota
11/28/2001
19:12:12
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So, here's my story... I have a 2000 3.9L SLT Auto with 27K miles. Purchased the trucked back in the spring and almost immediately noticed pinging. Went to 89 octane...problem cured. (Or so I thought) Back in mid-Oct pinging returned. I went to the Autolite 3923 plugs and 180 tstat... pinging was reduced but not eliminated. Belly pan gasket okay, spark plug wires not crossed, O2 sensor okay. Just put in a tank of 93 octane and the engine runs smoother than it ever has and I got rid of the damn pinging. I'm wondering if gas has gotten crappier since 9/11???? If the pinging returns again I may have to go to jet fuel :)
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v8
Dodge Dakota
11/28/2001
19:14:36
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Bob H by a v8
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Ron T.
Dodge Dakota
11/30/2001
00:26:46
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I took my truck (2001 QC, 3.9L, 5sp, 9K miles) to the dealer the other day to fix the racket under the hood. Blasted thing clattered like a diesel under the slightest acceleration or grade, in every gear and any speed. Has for many weeks but got worse in the last couple. Service rep said it was spark knock, pinging, etc. He said the only fix that Dodge had for it was to flash the PCM. But he then recommended against it, saying every owner who had this done in their shop came back very dissatified because it "robbed power and fuel economy". Then he gave me some sob story about how the extra additives the EPA have been mandating the past couple of years are the cause of all the bad knocking and pinging that people have been experienceing lately. His best, cutting-edge, 5-star service advice? Switch brands and octane of gas, and learn to live with the hellish pinging.
I left the dealer thoroughly disgusted, feeling I'd been given the brush-off by a service dept. that didn't care. Especially after reading the owner's manual where it states that excessive spark knock at high speeds is cause to bring the vehicle in for immediate repair, or else risk not having the subsequent damage covered by warranty!
Those of you that've had the PCM flashed, have you noticed any loss of power or fuel economy afterwards? Or, as I suspect, was this stooge blowing sunshine up my hind-end? I'm heading to another dealer across town for a second opinion.
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Zed
Dodge Dakota
11/30/2001
08:16:38
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If its that bad, the belly pan gasket is probably leaking......Dodge sucks, by 2001, they STILL don't know how to build them without pinging?? Its ridiculous.......
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scott
Dodge Dakota
12/05/2001
15:10:54
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I know what you're saying,i just started getting the notorious "ping/knock" on my 01 dak 4x4 at 17000 miles.my dilemma only seems to happen using 87 octane,if i run 92-93 it doesn't do it. this is such bullsh*t since these 3.9 pieces of crap are supposed to run on 87 according to the owners manual.Dodge finally gave up on the 3.9 for the 02 model and went to the magnum 3.7 which has a whole lot more hp. only took the idiots at chrysler 10+ years to figure out their v-6 in the daks suck canal water.i don't even bother with dealerships anymore,I get tired of the "can't duplicate problem" solutions. Dealerships these days are pretty much worthless for other than oil changes, five-star service my ass!!!
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