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DaveFarley
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1/03/2003
17:52:07
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Okay I bought the Quad Cab V6 automatic and now realize I should have gotten the v8. However, without loosing my shirt I am stuck. My qustion is what should I do to get more power. I have learned a little about Throttle bodies, air intake, and mufflers, but could someone give me some more specific products to look at and what the result will be in driving. Right now, I cannot pass a car on the freeway....
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QckSlvrDak
Dodge Dakota
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1/03/2003
18:36:15
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I own a 2000 Quad Cab V6. Right now I have a Airaide intake, F&B 48mm throttle body(from SoCalDakota), JBA headers, 3" Dynomax catback, and MSD wires. I really noticed my biggest difference in performance with the throttle body. My biggest let down was with the 3" exhaust. It sounds great but I lost a lot of bottom end torque. Should have stayed with the 2.5" catback. Give me some time and I can have prices for all of the items.
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DaveFarley
Dodge Dakota
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1/03/2003
21:41:50
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I ordered a K&N air intake kit tonight for 190.00, and have spoken to a guy who will put a flowmaster muffler on for 185. The guys at the shot feel pretty strongly that I will see a big difference after these two mods... thoughts?
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QckSlvrDak
Dodge Dakota
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1/03/2003
21:55:54
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The K&N intake is one of the better ones out there so that should help and as long as you stay with the 2.5" muffler then you should be very happy with the set up. Let us know how everything works out after you get them on.
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swingman
Dodge Dakota
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1/03/2003
21:57:47
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Do you have the 3.55 gears? If so get at least the 3.92 or 4.10 gears with LSD for off the line grunt and passing potential. This will probably be your best bang for the buck. Randy Pile at World Wide Performance Parts.
Leave the exhaust work for the end. Get the air in (air intake, TB, 1.7 rocker arms or an aftermarket cam built for torque). Here are some decently priced parts:
Intense Performance air intake
stock 48mm TB and 1.7 rr from Sam at www.socaldakota.com
It take quite a bit to get the V6 QC moving!
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Lesley
GenIII
1/03/2003
22:26:34
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And he should know - he has one that really moves!
Hey Swingman, how is it going? Thanks for the heads up on those parts last month, I ended up getting the M1 and billet 52mm TB.
97 3.9 CC Sport. JBA stainless headers, Borla Turbo XL stainless muffler & tip, 17 x10 Boyd Coddington Smoothies, FMS injectors, V8 TB, Quick D intake, Have but not Installed yet: 5.9 litre 360, posi, 3.92s, Coming: M1, 52mm billet TB, ceramic JBAs.
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swingman
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1/03/2003
23:13:36
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Hey thanks for the compliment Lesley!
Glad you got a good deal on those parts, anything to help a friend ;)
Anytime I'm in your neighbourhood, I'll let you know. Maybe I'll give you a hand with your 5.9L build up.
Did Billy tell you that my truck moves?
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Lesley
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1/04/2003
00:32:28
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Yup, he said you guys red-lined it :)
I'll be putting a cam into the 360 as soon as I have the $$ - I'm thinking the KRC 210 (I could use your experience with that heh, heh) .Here's what it looked like last week, I want to get it up onto the stand this weekend. Since this pic, I've taken the alternator, compressor and brackets off.
97 3.9 CC Sport. JBA stainless headers, Borla Turbo XL stainless muffler & tip, 17 x10 Boyd Coddington Smoothies, FMS injectors, V8 TB, Quick D intake, Have but not Installed yet: 5.9 litre 360, posi, 3.92s, Coming: M1, 52mm billet TB, ceramic JBAs.
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DaveFarley
Dodge Dakota
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1/04/2003
01:03:39
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I have LSD already on my truck, how do I find out what my gear ratio's are?
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Neil
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1/04/2003
02:25:06
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it should say what kind of gear u have on a sticker in your glove box.
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kacivic
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1/04/2003
02:28:11
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i have a 2nd gen dak, and i was wondering if anyone could give me a rough estimate of what to expect to spend on a 3.92 posi rear end?
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swingman
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1/04/2003
09:38:07
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Dave,
Most likely you have the 3.55, which is the most common gear off the lot. Some have experienced equal or slightly better MPG with the 3.92.
It sounds to me like you're only looking for increased performance in daily driving. Let me know what you budget is and I'll get a parts list together for you.
Lesley,
Installing the cam in your 360 will be a piece of cake since the engine is already out of the truck! It will be setting the sync that may take some time. The KRC210 looks like a well suited cam for you. Did the guys on DTO help pick it out for you?
kacivic,
About $300 for the gears (Motive Gear) and $200 for install by a local 4x4 shop. What current mods do you have? You may want to look into other mods right now, since you gen II is much lighter than a gen III IMHO.
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Lesley
GenIII
1/04/2003
12:52:47
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If you have a real nose for a bargain and are willing to do some surfing, you can find great deals on parts. Ebay is good, but I noticed prices have really climbed in the last year or so. My best finds on parts have been through forums like this one, and moparchat.com and dodgetrucks.org. I paid $100 for my 3.92s and they are brand new. My posi carrier was $45 US!!! I don't even want to admit what I paid for the new intake with billet TB, but suffice to say it was less than a quarter of the retail price.
Swingman: Yeah, the DTO guys have been so great for advice. I did a lot of research on my own too, and I think that cam, or the comp cam (I think it's 20-608) which is comparable will be the best bet. I want the musclecar lope, but it's my only driver so it has to be streetable (some of the really radical cams can affect the vacuum and cause probs with brakes etc). There are so many variables!
Hey did you guys know that for a mere $3,999 you can get a stroker kit for our engines that will kick the #@$ out of the next R/T you meet on the street? :)
97 3.9 CC Sport. JBA stainless headers, Borla Turbo XL stainless muffler & tip, 17 x10 Boyd Coddington Smoothies, FMS injectors, V8 TB, Quick D intake, Have but not Installed yet: 5.9 litre 360, posi, 3.92s, Coming: M1, 52mm billet TB, ceramic JBAs.
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rtdkota
R/T
1/04/2003
13:14:29
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To hear my truck/cam and see the new GTS-II hood, check out www.socaldakota.com/VIDEOS It's the large download file GTS*.wmf
Sam
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Lesley
GenIII
1/04/2003
14:19:40
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(sorry to sound like Dr. Seuss)
Sam, what is your cam?
97 3.9 CC Sport. JBA stainless headers, Borla Turbo XL stainless muffler & tip, 17 x10 Boyd Coddington Smoothies, FMS injectors, V8 TB, Quick D intake, Have but not Installed yet: 5.9 litre 360, posi, 3.92s, Coming: M1, 52mm billet TB, ceramic JBAs.
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Neil
Dodge Dakota
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1/04/2003
18:36:40
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KACIVIC, i bought a richmond 3.91 gear for my truck and it only cost me $185. http://www.truckperformance.com/vehicle.search/?searchtype=d&sortorder=&urlsubcategory=Drivetrain&productcategory=Ring+%26+Pinions&sf1=DODGE&sf2=1993&sf3=DAKOTA&sf4=CHRYSLER+8.25-INCH+%26+8.375-INCH+DIFFERENTIAL+%2810-BOLT+COVER%29&sf5=3.91+GEAR+RATIO
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redak97
Dodge Dakota
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1/05/2003
22:16:20
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hey lesley where did you get your gears for $100 and your posi carrier for $45?
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Lesley
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1/05/2003
22:58:35
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I bought the gears from a guy off this site. The posi I got off ebay, guess no one else felt like bidding that day.
97 3.9 CC Sport. JBA stainless headers, Borla Turbo XL stainless muffler & tip, 17 x10 Boyd Coddington Smoothies, FMS injectors, V8 TB, Quick D intake, Have but not Installed yet: 5.9 litre 360, posi, 3.92s, Coming: M1, 52mm billet TB, ceramic JBAs.
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kacivic
Dodge Dakota
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1/07/2003
02:58:54
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thanks for all the info guys!
neil,
one question tho(as this is really new to me), does that include some kind of posi-trac thing, or just the 3.91 gears, or both? i'm really not sure what i'm looking at.
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