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9/10/2002
10:13:27

Subject: The oddest Thing, this ever happen 2you?
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Well I went out to start the dak about 1:30pm to start my move to another location. When I turned the key no rumble was heard just a loud clicking sound which I was familiar with, as it could be a dead battery or a loose negative connection. So I popped the hood and tighten the negative battery cable. Turn the key again and she fired right up..... And then died. Kept doing this over and over as it kept stalling out if I didn't keep my foot on the gas. I had to get moving so I went ahead and drove off came to the end of my street where I had to stop and look both ways and the truck stalled again. It continued to do this when I would have to let off the pedal. So I quickly learned to drive my auto like a manual in using two feet and shifting into neutral when I was approaching a stop.

Well I drove 90 miles and once I got into the parking spot the truck died again. Unloaded my stuff and I was off again to the local shopping plaza, drove there with it stalling again and once again stalled in the parking spot. Got what I needed from the store and started her up and drove off.

Weird thing here........

When approaching a stop sign I wanted to see if she still was going to die. But this time I came to a stop and she idle at 500 rpms and would almost dip down to low. Took a left and started to get up to speed(speed limit 55mph) and when it came time to shift into OD (4th gear) it wouldn't and then a check engine light came on. So I continued to drive to my place. When I got there she idled at 1k rpm when it normally does and didn't die in the parking spot. Let her sit over night. Got up to drive to class and the light was still on. Driving their now with only one foot and no stalling. Got gas, filled her up and then went to class and parked it with out it stallin.

Even wierded thing...........

When I fired her up after class she idled great sounded great and definitely was looking great and didn't stall and the CHECK ENGINE light was gone.

Now what the hell is this??????


Keep in mind I have a 98 dak auto that just
Achieve 70k miles with a 9" K&N Homebrew, 180 t-stat, MSD 6a,blaster3, 8.5mm, and recent oil change and cap and rotor change about 1k miles ago.

Could it be a failing msd 6a? Battery? Bad Gas?
o2 sensor? bad cat?

Or is it just a dodge thing


now you know thats..................

sic

Jesse T.
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9/10/2002
10:17:28

RE: The oddest Thing, this ever happen 2you?
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Sic, get your batt tested. I bet that is the problem. I had it before.

Jesse T.



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9/10/2002
12:18:22

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that sounded like a tps problem... my brother's 98 jeep did the same thing. either way at least its running right, right now. if you can get someone to scan your computer to find out what code caused the check engine light.

edelbrock intake, modified manifold, headers, flowmaster, 24lb injectors, mp throttle body, 1.7 rr, msd 6a, msd wires, blaster 3, b&m shifter, shift kit, coilovers, drag shocks, ladderbars, panhard bar, 150# coils, electric fan, oil cooler, 180 thermostat, autolite 3923, corbeau seats, slicks, mojo

Jesse T.
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9/10/2002
12:23:52

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Sic, if you have a autozone overthere, I think you can rent the scanner overthere.

Greg, I called you yesterday but i think you might have been at work, I found a new rear bumper for your bro the only thing is that it is $225, for a 96 TA. If i get out of class early tonigh I will call you with details.

Jesse T.



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9/10/2002
12:29:14

RE: The oddest Thing, this ever happen 2you?
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no i wasnt at work... i was ASLEEP!!!!!!!! I WORK AT NIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!



sorry, you called, knobby called, sean called twice, three telemarketers, one bad number, and a partridge in a pear tree....

okay i feel better now... hehe

i did get your message and i relayed the info to my brother and he said he would like to see if he can find a painted junkyard because he is worried about the cost of painting.


oh, and sic, autozone does the service for you for free

edelbrock intake, modified manifold, headers, flowmaster, 24lb injectors, mp throttle body, 1.7 rr, msd 6a, msd wires, blaster 3, b&m shifter, shift kit, coilovers, drag shocks, ladderbars, panhard bar, 150# coils, electric fan, oil cooler, 180 thermostat, autolite 3923, corbeau seats, slicks, mojo

Jesse T.
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9/10/2002
13:41:08

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Greg,Try theses places and if you find one I could scoop it up for you beacuse it going to be kinda far for you.

Awsome auto salv. 972-262-5555
grimes 972-262-0213
all state 972-263-7850
Farris 972-263-3607 usaualy best deal here

Jesse T.




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9/10/2002
14:01:12

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cool thanx! i will let my brother know!

edelbrock intake, modified manifold, headers, flowmaster, 24lb injectors, mp throttle body, 1.7 rr, msd 6a, msd wires, blaster 3, b&m shifter, shift kit, coilovers, drag shocks, ladderbars, panhard bar, 150# coils, electric fan, oil cooler, 180 thermostat, autolite 3923, corbeau seats, slicks, mojo

n8 dawg
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9/10/2002
15:10:32

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my truck did the same thing, almost everytime at idel it would die....and it ideled low and then go up and everntually die, turned out to be my ignition coil....might wanna give that a shot



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9/10/2002
15:51:45

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I have gotten the TPS code before, it would come on and i would get it scaned and then the next day it would be gone. I have had it replaced before. It went real haywire last year about 3 months after i moded it. It was the code that said the TPS voltage did not agree with map. Got the map replaced a couple weeks ago as well as the IAC. I am thinkin that i have an old 5.9L TB, how do you tell if there the right one or not?

LOL intense i was going to call ya.....

now you know thats..................

sic

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9/10/2002
18:27:09

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if you did i would got in my truck drove for 20 hours and kicked your ass!!!

hehe well i dont know what the differences in the years are... were you using your sensors or the one that came on the older tb?

edelbrock intake, modified manifold, headers, flowmaster, 24lb injectors, mp throttle body, 1.7 rr, msd 6a, msd wires, blaster 3, b&m shifter, shift kit, coilovers, drag shocks, ladderbars, panhard bar, 150# coils, electric fan, oil cooler, 180 thermostat, autolite 3923, corbeau seats, slicks, mojo

sicminds
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9/10/2002
19:46:40

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I was using my old ones that were on the 6tb

now you know thats..................

sic

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9/10/2002
21:43:15

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The exact same thing happened to me, except it took jumper cables to get it started. Wouldn't stay running unless I gave it a lot of gas. The problem with mine was just a dead battery. Do a search - you'll find a bunch of posts with "won't start" in the title. Maybe you recharged the battery enough to bring everything back to normal by driving around.



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9/10/2002
23:11:57

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Yes, check the battery. Those are the exact same things mine did when the battery died. It would run fine when jumped off someone else, but would run just like yours when trying to start on it's own.

Sean



Dan
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9/11/2002
00:46:16

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i had the same problemwith mine. i had it looked at and the mech said that it was some kinda air sensor. $200. it ran fine driving it around but when i would let off the gas, it would stall. there wasn't any problem starting it up though.



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9/11/2002
07:49:31

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Sounds like you have a bad cell in your battery



Daniel D
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9/12/2002
21:14:03

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after you replce the batt, one thing you can do is place it in drive with the a/c off and the e-brake on, and let it ilde.the computer with then relearn the idle. when the batt volt goes low the computer goes crazy. i work at dodge and we have that happen alot. replace your batt then reset the ilde and you should be fine.

Daniel D



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9/14/2002
09:58:31

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i have a 1990 dak with the 3.9 this problem happened to me exactly as you described and i ended up havin the comp rewired
as for the temporary fix i had to soak the carb with quick start



Kyle
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2/21/2003
15:25:48

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I think the whole time in the 1st message ever on this subject was the gas.BUt surely that was one weird 2 days!! lol!!



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2/13/2006
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i have a 1990 dakota 3.9 v6 moter is a 91 i got it for $150. and have replaced the starter,spark plugs,wiers,and battery. now my probe is fule i put about 1- 1 1/2 cup gas rite in the carband she will fire up and run no problem but wont start when i dont put gas in the carb i looked at carb and i pulled the throdle and no fule will spray but when i put gas in carb and start her the fule flow stars and gos good,dont know what to do. pleas help




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2/13/2006
22:05:30

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I had this hapend to me one day when I almost killed my batt, what happend is that the Tps learn got lost.
The TPS takes its base reading when the engine is cranking so if you are trying to help it start with gas you are setting a base TPS that is too high and when you let off the PCM sees too low a reading and the engine stalls.

Disconect the Batt for a minute or two then start it back up with out touching the throttle.

LilRed01



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2/18/2006
18:09:34

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Had the same problem last Mo. all I had to do was a good clean job on the battery posts and clamps, fixed her right up



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