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viperdak 6
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5/27/2002
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here's something that the guyz and gurlz might like to hear if they are debating the TB mod because of the pain of the throttle cable swap. simply get a throttle body off of a 318 jeep!!! they have the disk on the side instead of the ball and your V6 cable will hook right up!!
Just thought that some of you would like to know that because i've read the angry words of many when it came to the V8 throttle cable installation. this really does work, i did it on my dak!!!
good luck,
brian
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TonyC
Dodge Dakota
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5/27/2002
23:25:48
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Huh? I just did the V8 TB swap and my V6 cable had the ball end not a disk end. The V8 cable has the disk end. I think you've got your cables mixed up.
By the way, my swap went smoothly. Replacing the cable was no problem. This mod provided the most noticable improvement yet.
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viperdak 6
Dodge Dakota
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5/28/2002
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tony,
most 6'ers have a disk (or atleast every dak that i've seen), not a ball
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bernd
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5/28/2002
23:36:42
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Nope...the V6's use the ball-stud and the V8's use the disc. Even on the 2002 models.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
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14.55 @ 96.01mph
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BLeagues
Dodge Dakota
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5/29/2002
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This has gotten me confused, I am about to do the TB swap and was told I would need a V8 TB cable. My V6 TB cable has the ball-stud end on it.
Does the new V8 TB cable I will need have a differen't kind of connection on it?
As well, from what I have read I can use the sensors off my V6 TB for my V8 Tb correct?
Thanks
BLeagues
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Kotadude21
Dodge Dakota
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5/29/2002
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if you get the TB off the V8 it will have the disc style linkage for the the throttle cable.
my v6 TB had the ball type, getting the V8 cable will solve this problem BLeagues.
Also, all the sensors will match up from the 6 to the 8.
brent
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bernd
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5/29/2002
11:01:18
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All V6 throttle bodies ('92-'02) use a ball-stud unless it's an anomoly. All V8 throttle bodies use the disc.
Yes, you'll need to swap out to the V8 throttle cable if you use a V8 TB on your V6. The cable swap takes about 5 minutes.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
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BLeagues
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5/29/2002
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This may sound like a stupid question, but do manual transmission Daks have a throttle cable?
I have looked at the pics on speedtweaks in their tips and tricks section and the picture on their Throttle Valve Cable adjustment is differen't than what I have on my manual transmission 99 Dak.
In that pic, where it says Throttle Valve Cable I do not have that on my Dak. All I have is a spring that goes from the window side of that bracket to the throttle body lever.
So do I need the V8 TB cable for my 5spd manual transmission Dak when I do the TB swap?
please help.
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BLeagues
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bernd
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5/29/2002
13:11:54
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You'll need the TB (Throttle Body) cable...not the TV (Throttle Valve) cable.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
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14.55 @ 96.01mph
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BLeagues
Dodge Dakota
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5/29/2002
13:15:38
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Ok Bernd, in that pic that I was talking about, the TB cable is referred to as the accelerator cable right?
I assumed that was the case, but I have the ball and stud linkage right now on my V6 TB, if the V8 TB cable comes with a disc type of linkage, won't I need a new bracket to mount the Disc style TB cable?
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Bleagues
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bernd
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5/29/2002
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Yup...
Accelerator Cable, Gas Pedal Cable, Throttle Cable (as in Throttle Body)...all the same thing.
All you'll need (for ease of installation) is the V8 throttle body cable.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
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14.55 @ 96.01mph
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BLeagues
Dodge Dakota
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5/29/2002
13:24:54
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OK, sorry to sound stupid, but I am not that mechanically inclined.
But do I take the ball socket off the V6 TB cable (which I have now) and attach it to the V* Tb cable wich I will need?
What I am trying to understand is, if the V8 Tb cable comes witha disc style attachement, how am I gonna mount it to the ball and stud type of attachement that is on the bracket that I have now?
Thanks once again
BLeagues
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bernd
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5/29/2002
13:57:49
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You need to change the throttle (accelerator) cable. Don't try to make it more complicated BLeagues...it's a very simple installation.
If you want, go to our website (www.speedtweaks.net) and then into the V6/V8 Throttle Body Conversion kit section. Download the instructions and it will explain everything.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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greengiant13
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5/29/2002
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Bernd you are the Sh!t
Catch me come later!!
Green Giant
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93FASTDAK
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5/29/2002
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ON MY 93 I DID NOT NEED TO CHANGE THE THROTTLE CABLE. THEY WERE BOTH THE BALL TYPE TB'S. NOT SURE WHAT YEAR THE TB WAS BUT THINK IT WAS A 92-93.
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viperdak 6
Dodge Dakota
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5/29/2002
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ok, sorry bout the confusion, just a suggestion...never try to post messages while you're under the influence :) I did have the cables backwards, but i wasn't wrong bout the V8 throttle body on the '94-'95 jeep 318's, it comes with the ball stud, i've seen 12 of these jeeps now and ALL of them have had the ball stud on the throttle body...bernd, i know that you have lotz of ppl that you talk to on the phone, but a month or two ago i called you from my house in VA wondering why the throttle body that i purchased had the ball stud, and i finally figured it out, it was because it came off of a '94-'95 jeep 318. please tell me if i'm wrong, but like i stated above, i've now seen 12 of them with the same throttle body. thanks for correcting me bernd, i was feeling like a real dumbarse for a while there.
good luck,
brian
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bernd
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5/29/2002
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I have looked at the Jeep, Ram, and Dakota TB's and they had the disc. ON the 94/95 model, make sure that these do NOT get installed on a 96+. Ther EGR ports will cause really strange idle probelms.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
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14.55 @ 96.01mph
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Darren N.
Dodge Dakota
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5/30/2002
21:58:37
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Not all V8 TB's are disc. 93FastDak is right, I also got a V8 TB with the ball type joint. Just depends what year your truck is and what year TB you get. So just check to be sure what cable you have and what cable you need before you buy.
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kotaguy
Dodge Dakota
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6/03/2002
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when you do the TB swap, is it recommended to get a fuel pressure regulator? It would seem like you would considering you are getting mre air than normal.
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bernd
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6/04/2002
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I've had TB's coming through the shop ranging from '92-'02...I haven't seen the ball on a V8 yet (but there's always the chance Mopar did something wierd on a few models).
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
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viperdak 6
Dodge Dakota
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6/04/2002
21:02:32
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just wanted to let you know that i wasn't arguing with you bernd bout the tb's, just wondering if anyone else has found the same tb that i did...
brian
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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
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6/05/2002
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so does V6 to V8 TB swap swap do more then air intake and/or exhaust??? if its the "most noticable"
do flowmetrics and fastman TBs do more then V8 TBs???
any hp gain or quarter mile gain figures???
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BLeagues
Dodge Dakota
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6/05/2002
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Bernd, I got my V8 TB and cable from the dealer yesterday and put it on last night. You were right about it being a fairly simple procedure.
The hardest part to me was getting the clip that holds the cable to the firewall off and the new cable back on to it.
I guess the thing that I was confused about, was, that I would have to install the TB bracket that I had, which had the ball and socket type linkage, onto the new TB. But as it turns out the new TB came with a new bracket that had a socket type linkage.
Anyways thanks for the help.
BLeagues
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BF
Dodge Dakota
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9/11/2002
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To: greengiant13
Hey I am looking to join a Dak club in So Cal. I will try and make it to the Fontana race meet on the 21st. I have a white 99 CC with a V6. Not to many engin mods. yet but the outside is looking pretty cool.
Bob
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disturbed202
Dodge Dakota
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11/13/2002
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i have a 93 dakota with the v6, i picked up a 318 throttle body from august pohl today and it boltd on without having to change the cable, i think the tb was also from a 93, but my truck came stock with the disk hook up instead of the ball. so he wasnt lying when he said it will work, you just have to have an older truck.
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87DakBuilder
Dodge Dakota
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11/14/2002
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Hey Berd, I got a v8 TB off of a 95 5.2 v8, but I'm about to purchase a 92 v6, will there be any problems with running the v8tb on the 92 motor. I know that they both use the sbec 1 pcm's. Any help with this matter is greatly appreciated.
87Dakbuilder
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1Flamed92Dak
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11/14/2002
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Bernd i hate to argue this point but the JEEP 5.2L TB that I installed was a direct hookup and i didnt need the V-8 TC and the TB was a ball type. You know OLE MA MOPAR she never does anything the right way LOL
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danny
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11/17/2002
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OH MY!!!!!!!! I'm real confused, HELP?????? I have a tb off a 95/96 5.2 jeep g c (and was lucky to get the cable too). Looking at everything I thought, "Cool, swap things out on my 00 V6 and I'm trucking on" But now Bernard posts that the tb has egr ports???? Like a fool I left the "new" tb in my tool box over the weekend and I'm going nuts wondering if things are gonna work. I do know that they came with three different linkage arms, the one I have has the small plastic piece between the stationary mounting piont on the bracket and the disk attaching piont, the cable goes under this piece and making sure it's in the groove on this piece it connects to the disk. My dak has the ball set up and that's why I snagged the cable too. BUT this egr port thing has me wondering???????? I guess if I knew the exact year of the g c it would help and you bet come Monday morning I'm gonna find out HAS ANYONE DONE A TB AND CABLE OFF OF A 5.2 AUTO 95/96 JEEP G C ON TO A 00 3.9 MANUAL DAK. HELP, SIGNED CONFUSED AND DEPRESSED!!!
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GB2000
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11/17/2002
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I like cheese...
As for the NORMAL responses on here, It looks like I'm gonna have to start doing some research on all this stuff. My grandpa hasn't been much help. So far all he's been able to do is say, "Josh! Don't modify your truck! It's perfectly fine! All that stuff does is f'k it up!" Heh... ah well. I'm DEFINITELY gonna buy me a cold air intake though. I like the looks of them a lot and I've heard enough good stuff about them. :)
Josh (GB2000)
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bobdak
Dodge Dakota
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11/18/2002
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I have done a low cost alt. to the cold air intake. I put on a Eldelbrock pro-flo airfilter and it fits perfict. The cost around 20 bucks and looks great. I have pictures of if you are intrested. Email me @ Bobfichera@hotmail.com and I will send you the pic's
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