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DakotaDan
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5/13/2002
17:47:19
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OK after reading and studying about them I decided that this would be my next mod. Having ordered a set does anyone have any install tips to offer?
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Dan
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FlameRed01
Dodge Dakota
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5/13/2002
19:05:56
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i'm not sure, but you might need larger valve covers (which they dont make for our sixers) because the rockers are larger, but i know the mopar rockers fit, and their alot cheaper.
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rtdkota
Dodge Dakota
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5/13/2002
19:08:02
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Hope your ordered from me.. I could save you some $$$ LOL. You'll need to knock in your oil baffles to clear the 1.7s... Not too difficult...
Sam
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chris
Dodge Dakota
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5/14/2002
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when I installed my roller rocker arms it was advertised on truckperformance.com that they fit under stock valve covers. so I took off my valve covers removed the stock rockers, installed the new roller rockers following all the directions with proper torque. Then I discovered the valve covers no longer fit. I was pissed. So I took off the roller rockers and reinstalled the stock rockers, (this truck is my main transportation) called truckperformance.com and slightly got on their asses. So then they tell me. Oh yeah, by the way you have to hammer down the oil galleys. So the next weekend I went back to work and hammered the valve covers and everything worked out ok.
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Dakota Bob
GenII
5/14/2002
08:33:01
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Where did you guys buy the rockers? and do you need to buy new push rods too? About how much do they cost, I have been thinking about getting them for my 94 Dak.
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Bob
94 CC 3.9 JBA Headers,19# FI,Flow Master 40s, Split Fire Plugs, K/N Chrome Filter, 180 T Stat ,TPS Adjustment,Flometrics TB, Black Magic 150, JBA Wires, MSD Blaster SS Coil
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FlameRed01
Dodge Dakota
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5/14/2002
09:05:52
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c'mon man read the post numeruos links were just posted
www.socaldakota.com
www.truckperformance.com
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bernd
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5/14/2002
09:32:43
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Here's a few items to watch out for on the V6 with the 1.7 rockers:
(1) You can "hammer" down the baffles, but be careful not to flatten them out too much - PCV and breather system won't work properly.
(2) Don't remove the baffles - oil will get sucked right into the intake via the PCV valve and Breather. If you do this, you will need to install some sort of baffle under the PCY and breahter (recommend the Moroso valve cover baffles)
(3) Best way: Just lightly tap the baffles down (no more than 1/4") and double-gasket the V6 covers (double up two valve cover gaskets on each side). They won't leak and you'll have the clearance you need...with the factory baffles.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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FlameRed01
Dodge Dakota
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5/14/2002
09:35:22
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well getting the crower 1.7's sounds like alot of aggravation, will the mopar 1.7's fit under mine?
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rtdkota
Dodge Dakota
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5/14/2002
10:03:26
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The Crower's go together much better than the Mopar units-- they're stainless not aluminum, and you have the clearance issue with both Mopar and Crower.
Oh yeah, the Crower are CARB approved 50 state (smog excempt) if that matters to you.
Knocking in the baffles isn't really that big a deal. I may find a way to get some V6 covers, set them up, then send them to people who buy 1.7s for a V6, then they send their stockers back to me... Nothing in the works yet, but I am planning on it.
If you have any questions, fire me an email.
Sam
www.socaldakota.com
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rtdkota
Dodge Dakota
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5/14/2002
10:08:47
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1.7s (standard), for applications below 5500 rpm (no guide plates or push rods needed)
1.7s (Rev kit) for applications above 5500 rpm (guide plates and push rods included)
I sell both at www.socaldakota.com
The rev kit is more money, more parts (as listed). The Rev kit is good insurance for your engine if you were to over rev, or come close to 5500 rpm on a frequent basis.
Sam
www.socaldakota.com
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rtdkota
Dodge Dakota
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5/14/2002
10:09:04
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1.7s (standard), for applications below 5500 rpm (no guide plates or push rods needed)
1.7s (Rev kit) for applications above 5500 rpm (guide plates and push rods included)
I sell both at www.socaldakota.com
The rev kit is more money, more parts (as listed). The Rev kit is good insurance for your engine if you were to over rev, or come close to 5500 rpm on a frequent basis.
Sam
www.socaldakota.com
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Dakota Bob
GenII
5/15/2002
23:56:43
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rtdkota, thanks for the information.
Bob
94 CC 3.9 JBA Headers,19# FI,Flow Master 40s, Split Fire Plugs, K/N Chrome Filter, 180 T Stat ,TPS Adjustment,Flometrics TB, Black Magic 150, JBA Wires, MSD Blaster SS Coil
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Xphile1999
Dodge Dakota
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5/16/2002
14:02:39
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Bernd, I, like a few people in this forum removed the baffles from our valve covers when installing our 1.7rrs, i remember you saying we could do this....what now? what is it doing to my engine?
Options?
-Xphile1999
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bernd
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5/16/2002
16:37:27
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The PCV valve will suck the "oil splash" into the intake.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
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14.55 @ 96.01mph
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Xphile1999
Dodge Dakota
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5/16/2002
16:49:48
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Will this kill my engine? is it something that needs to be taken care of immedietly? how much are your crome valve covers?
-Xphile1999
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IntenseDak39
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5/16/2002
18:18:45
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Xphile!!!!!!!! email me
i need your address..... i got new internet because my old one kept looking up and closing and losing info.....
intensedak39@aol.com
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Bernd
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5/17/2002
09:27:45
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Xphile: It won't kill your engine (right away), but will foul up the spark plugs and will cause oil to run through the intake system. The Nickel-Plated covers are being plated now with a price of $140 for the V6 (with new bolts and gaskets) and $150 for the 5.2/5.9L V8 (also with new bolts and gaskets).
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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Dakota Bob
GenII
5/18/2002
08:53:27
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Bernd, will these have the stock pvc and vent hose holes in them? I would like to get a set for my 94 3.9
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Bob
94 CC 3.9 JBA Headers,19# FI,Flow Master 40s, Split Fire Plugs, K/N Chrome Filter, 180 T Stat ,TPS Adjustment,Flometrics TB, Black Magic 150, JBA Wires, MSD Blaster SS Coil
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DakotaDan
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5/24/2002
22:17:44
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Ok Guys we are 2 hrs into surgery and I have a ? are we supposed to use loc-tite on the studs and or the surelocks ? and if so what type....red, blue.....
Crower makes no mention of this in their instructions.
Dan
K&N FIPK # 57-1517 * DynoMax #17748 * OEM 5.2/5.9 V8 TB #53032691AA * Crower 1.7 Roller Rockers # 73654K * Factory Flares * WeatherTechs * Saddleman Low Profile Tonneau
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bernd
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5/25/2002
01:22:50
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If you're going to use lock-tite, make sure you clean the holes first. (Use BLUE on the studs...Red isn't required for this application.) Do NOT use lock-tite on the adjusters or locks for the adjusters...you may have to readjust one more time after initial "break in".
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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DakotaDan
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5/25/2002
08:11:53
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Thanks Bernd
I have the plugs out and plan to use yor advise from a post you made on fast4x4 web site, hopefully to avoid a second teardown.
I find it hard that these things will hit the baffles they are not near as bulky as the stockers.
Dan
K&N FIPK # 57-1517 * DynoMax #17748 * OEM 5.2/5.9 V8 TB #53032691AA * Crower 1.7 Roller Rockers # 73654K * Factory Flares * WeatherTechs * Saddleman Low Profile Tonneau
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DakotaDan
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5/27/2002
10:51:28
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Installation done :
Now have 70+ miles and defiantly feels like truck has more TQ starting around 1800-2000 rpm pulls stronger than before, I think I'm going to like em...........;)
Thanks Bernd for the remove the spark plugs and 1/4" the baffle and double gaskets advise worked great, I just left the factory ones in place on the heads and put a new set of FELPROS right over them.
Couple of things that helped me that are not mentioned that I haven't seen anywhere are:
1. Remove the fan shroud its just 3 nuts and it makes it a lot easier to turn the engine over with a socket and see the timing marks.
2. Remove the distributor cap so you can see the TDC mark for the #1 Cyl - I also removed the sensor disc and marked it every 60* so I knew that I was at TDC for each Cyl, Also marked the Damper at 120* this made things easier for the final adjustments.
I couldn't belive the factory ones no adjustment on them at all :(
Dan
K&N FIPK # 57-1517 * DynoMax #17748 * OEM 5.2/5.9 V8 TB #53032691AA * Crower 1.7 Roller Rockers # 73654K * Factory Flares * WeatherTechs * Saddleman Low Profile Tonneau
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DakotaDan
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6/15/2002
11:07:34
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Just an update on my install.
500+ miles
Things are running great, truck has a nice powerband in the 2000+ range pull out to pass someone now and it just $hits & gets.
No Lifter noise at start up.
MPG is great also, just filled up and it checked out at 18.9 mpg > mixed driving with the AC on most of time and trying to keep my foot out of it hehehe................
Dan
K&N FIPK # 57-1517 * DynoMax #17748 * OEM 5.2/5.9 V8 TB #53032691AA * Crower 1.7 Roller Rockers # 73654K * Autolite 3923's
Factory Flares * WeatherTechs * Saddleman Low Profile Tonneau *
Road Runner High Speed Internet .. BEEP BEEP
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LI Blackdak
Dodge Dakota
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6/16/2002
11:05:40
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this souunds way too hard and dangerous
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FlameRed01
Dodge Dakota
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6/16/2002
15:34:32
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what are you a little girl? why dont you get some mods so you can solve you power problem, and have some fun while your at it, im tired of seeing your name with a list of complaints and negativeness after it everytime you post.
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IntenseDak39
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6/16/2002
18:09:42
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your just feeding him FlameRed01.
intensedak39
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Pistolero
Dodge Dakota
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6/16/2002
20:16:31
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No, no...roller rockers are really pretty easy. Much easier than installing a shift kit. As with any mod, one must exercise care and follow instructions while installing them, but, basically, one just unbolts the stock rockers, puts the new ones on, adjusts correctly, buttons it back up and drives away! They also provide some of the most noticeable power improvements of any mod. Haven't done them on my Dak yet, but I did on a Mustang a few years back.
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DakotaDan
*GenIII*
7/02/2002
22:50:59
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Update
Just pulled away from the pumps this evening 18.6 mpg mixed mostly city and foot into it every chance I get. Can't wait to do some long Hwy miles.
Gotta luv these things !!!!!
I had a off idle stumble that I just couldn't shake so I dropped the autolites about 150 miles ago and that cured it. Only thing I can figure it was the colder heat range?
I'm glad I did these over headers.
Dan
K&N FIPK # 57-1517 * DynoMax #17748
OEM 5.2/5.9 V8 TB #53032691AA * Crower 1.7 Roller Rockers # 73654K
Factory Flares * WeatherTechs * Saddleman Low Profile Tonneau
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FlameRed01
Dodge Dakota
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7/02/2002
23:03:44
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well hey theres always headers for your next mod....
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rtdkota
Dodge Dakota
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7/03/2002
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COOL BEANS MAN...
For anyone else wanting to do this, I've got more in stock!
Sam
www.socaldakota.com
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Pistolero
Dodge Dakota
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7/03/2002
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I'll get there...why, oh why, do I never have enough money to support my habits? ;-)
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