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NOSDART68
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9/21/2002
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I've never had a chance to race a v6 ranger or s10, but I have raced a 4 banger ranger. The way the guy talks about his truck, you would think it was a top fueler. He led me to believe that it would be a good race and bet me 5 dollars he would win. WOW, I kicked his ass bad. Now I brag to him every day at school.



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10/03/2002
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well it seems like you guys are all about the damn Dakota. Well I will give you guys some input... 4.3 votec is a better motor then any of the dakotas.. it comes with 180 hp 250 lb ... 98 % of sonoma's and s-10's have a damn 4 banger 120 hp motor and itz slow as #(&*^... you can't tell the engine it has unless you ask them... So next time you pank somone think to your self i just beat a 2.2 litter engine. By the way the 4.3 runs like mid 15's in the 1/4 mile. With some work you can get them down to about low 14's
... Torque wins races not hp

Vortec 4300 V6 with 180 horsepower @ 4400 RPM and 245 lb ft torque @ 2800



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10/03/2002
18:24:12

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ford and chevy are both pieces of sh*t I have a 99'dakota with a 3.9 liter and I have beat many of 4.3 vortecs. Nothing can take the power of dodge
hey guess what ford did one good thing On their grills they circled the problem




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10/03/2002
22:04:36

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chris: "well it seems like you guys are all about the damn Dakota"

Funny you mention that, I can't figure out why all people talk about on these forums are Dakotas either. Anyone else pondering this here??? Any help is appreciated.


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mpil1
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10/03/2002
22:15:35

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chris: "4.3 votec is a better motor then ANY of the dakotas"

I certainly wouldn't use the phrase "any dakotas"

Allow me to list a few numbers as you have...someone correct me if I'm wrong.

4.7L V8: 235hp @ 4800RPM, 295ft-lb @ 3200RPM
5.9L V8: 250hp @ 4400RPM, 345ft-lb @ 3200RPM

So again I wouldn't say "any" of the Dakota engines. One would have to prove to me that a 4.3L Vortec is better than those before I'd beleive its better than "any" of the Dakota engines. ;)



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10/04/2002
11:38:21

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chris
3.9 - 225 lbs 239ci .941 lbs/ci
4.3 - 245 lbs 262ci .935 lbs/ci
4.7 - 295 lbs 287ci? 1.03 lbs/ci
5.2 - 325 lbs 318ci 1.03 lbs/ci
5.9 - 345 lbs 360ci .958 lbs/ci

who comes out with the least amount of torque?

and i would love to see one of those 15 second "stock" s10's... because all of them around here run in the high 16's and 17s.... even those SUPER FAST xtremes!!!!

oh and there is one 14 second "stock" s10 around here..... the sasquatch was sited driving it!

--"did you mean the charger, because that's got a hemi, too!"
98 Dakota Sport V6: 8.95@77.9 mph (1/8th)
99 Oldsmobile Alero GL3 V6: xx@xx mph

LI Blackdak..
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10/04/2002
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RC s-10 4.3 auto
3185lbs
180hp@4400 rpms 245 lb/ft of tq@2800rpms

RC dak
3645lbs(auto) 3398lbs(5 speed)
175hp@4800 rpms 225 lb/ft tq@3200rpms

4.3 is less efficient but has more low end.
hitting peak power faster and having more total i dont see how a dakota could be faster when it weighs more
of course the V8s are faster!!!




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10/04/2002
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hey greg. with all that cutting, chopping, slashing and burning... what have you knocked your dak down to...weight wise?

'98 3.9 RC... A few mods... ;-)



LI Blackdak..
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10/04/2002
12:20:34

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wonder if u can get a 4x4 down to 3500...lol



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10/04/2002
15:53:11

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Ll Blackdak,
you would also have to look at the powerband to see where it makes most of its power... those are just peak numbers... who racing keeps there vehicle at 2800 rpms?

Mopardude,
my guess is around 3600-3700 lbs soaking wet... dont really know. Right now the front bumper is off and the fenders and a lot of other crap. WEIGHT REDUCTION!!

--"did you mean the charger, because that's got a hemi, too!"
98 Dakota Sport V6: 8.95@77.9 mph (1/8th)
99 Oldsmobile Alero GL3 V6: xx@xx mph

justa4x2
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10/04/2002
16:42:59

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15 sec quarters for stock xtreme! not possible. i know this kid who has the 4.3 rc 5speed with intake, stage 2 chip, injectors, plugs and wires, electric fan, with aftermarket gears (not sure what they are)and he barely gets into the 15's.

Oh yeah, the 3.0 rangers have impressive power! Thats bull. I've raced my buddy's with my 3.9 and raped and reamed him. He has the 3.73 gears with a 5 speed and I have 3.21. Uphill was even more embarrassing (for him). At 40, we both punched it, in 2nd to 3rd, and I started to walk away from him right away. He traded for a 2000 mustang Gt, so he gets all of the laughs now.





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10/04/2002
17:21:35

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HONESTLY GUYS THE VORTEC 4.3 GM MOTOR STOCK IS NOT IN ANY WAY A HOT STREET MOTOR, AND NEITHER THE 3.9 MAGNUM. I DRIVE A 99 3.9 STD CAB DAKOTA. mY BEST FRIEND DRIVES A 2002 GMC SONOMA 4.3 (5 SPD, AS IS MINE) XTND CAB AND HE HAS YET TO BEAT ME, WE BOTH HAVE MODERATE UPGRADES BUT IN THE END BOTH ENGINES ARE CLOSE TO EQUAL!



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10/24/2002
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i have a 93 s 10 and beat my freinds 4.0 ranger iv beat 3.9 dakotas hell iv even beat a 305 camaro so the 4.3must not be to bad



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10/24/2002
20:58:08

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were so proud....

try beating 5.7 LS1's and Cobras.... then we can talk. ;-P

--"did you mean the charger, because that's got a hemi, too!"
98 Dakota Sport V6: 8.95@77.9 mph (1/8th)
99 Oldsmobile Alero GL3 V6: xx@xx mph

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10/24/2002
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were so proud....

try beating 5.7 LS1's and Cobras.... then we can talk. ;-P

--"did you mean the charger, because that's got a hemi, too!"
98 Dakota Sport V6: 8.95@77.9 mph (1/8th)
99 Oldsmobile Alero GL3 V6: xx@xx mph

Rod
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12/23/2002
15:46:53

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All i want to know is who will win a 99 4.3L v6 chevy S-10 VS. A 96 4.0L v6 Ford ranger




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12/23/2002
15:47:10

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All i want to know is who will win a 99 4.3L v6 chevy S-10 VS. A 96 4.0L v6 Ford ranger




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12/23/2002
20:53:51

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My lbs was 4119 with every thing 3841 with just driver and 1/2 tank . This is in Baytown Tx



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12/24/2002
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Hmmm seems to me someone keeps to forget the S-DIME has only a 160 hp Vortec and the Blazer get the 190 hp Engine. Rod my money would go on the Ford with 4.0l



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12/24/2002
02:07:33

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I'm Sorry i stand corrected its 180 for 2wd and 190 for the 4wd



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12/24/2002
10:06:28

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everyone knows that except for the S-dime owners ;-)



NOSDART68
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12/24/2002
23:35:22

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I just wanna know what makes an Extreme S10 so special. I see they are lowered but that's about it. Do they have 4.10 posi rearends? The one I saw under the hood had Throttle Body Injection. That kinda made me wonder about how fast these shivies are. Prolly not too fast.



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12/25/2002
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all they have is ground effects, skinny tires/wheels, and a lowering job. At most, they can come with a 3.42 rearend.



NOSDART68
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12/25/2002
01:27:20

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wow! that's it! In that case, the kid was tryin to play me for a fool. They must be a joke then.



NOSDART68
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12/25/2002
17:47:51

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If that is the case, I know my 92 will beat his @$$. He swore to me that they came with a 4.10 posi. His truck is a completely stock 2000. I should have raced him and won some money, cause more than a few people were betting on it if it were to happen. My mods: Mopar PCM,V8 tb,FMS Injectors,K&N,Flowmaster,Tps mod,3.92 open, and a few others.



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12/27/2002
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Looks like this post is about dead and people finally got tired of defending those lame s10s and rangers. GOOD!



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3/12/2003
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ALl you people driving dodges make me sick. None of you seem to know what you are talking about. I drive a 94 s-10 4x4 extended cab, and guess what, i took down one of your 5.9 Rams, yea thats right. Also, i witnessed my buddy who drives a 2001 s-10 2x4 extended cab, take a 2x4 standard cab Ram with a 318 out behind the wood shed for a beating. Also in 94 Chevy made a high-output version of the 4.3 that came with 195 hp and 265 lb ft of torque. Better do your hp/ci calculations again.



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3/13/2003
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Chevrolet - Cheap, Hardly Efficient, Virtually Runs On Luck Every Time

Yeah yeah, I just felt like putting that down...I know they make em for Ford and Dodge just as well. Anyway, I prefer Dakotas, but I really don't have anything against Fords or Chevrolets. I do, however, want to mention that last I knew the Dodge Ram was not created as a 'race' truck. Sure some may modify the hell out of em and race em, but I believe they were designed more for power NOT speed. Another thing you may want to take into consideration is the fact that a Ram weighs A LOT more than an S-10. That makes a HUGE difference as well.
GB2000



00dak
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3/13/2003
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Um hay chevy dude. Learn your trucks before you tare them eppart. I have beaten a 5.9L ram in my dakota with no mods on my truck. I have you ever thought about how much that thoese things weigh. I also raced a newer looking S-10 extreme and I was not very impressed. I thought it would be faster, yes he tore ma a new ass hole but he was only ahead of me by about a car length. And I had his ass up to around 30 or 40. So just try racing something in your weight class next time and you may just get a challenge.



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3/13/2003
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yeah chevys are inefficient....right. illl smoke all u sixes ahahahahah



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