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T.C.
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9/24/2010
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I have a 92 dodge dakota v6 magnum, and one day it just did not want to run. The ignition is working cause I turned the key but it idles rough and dies out. Me and my dad thought it was the timing was wrong cause of the back firing from the intake, we replaced the timing gear's and chain, and everything and still does not want to run. It can barely stay alive at 1600 rpm using the gas pedal, we've checked the fuil pump which works and the pressure thinking it was losing pressure though the pressure is fine. Please help me find the problem We've ran out of ideas of whats wrong with it. Any info helps...
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T.C.
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9/24/2010
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Oh ya I forgot to mention that we also checked and changed the distributor cap, rotor base, " basically the whole thing" Thinking it was something simple. also we did a diagistic and it readed 3 5 5 I do not know what that means though we only have bits and pieces of a manual for that model.
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9/28/2010
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Distributor position determines when injectors
send fuel , timing is determined by crank sensor
in bell housing - passenger side - just below distributor .
Possible fault with EGR valve/solenoid
-passenger side near distributor.
For code info see www.troublecodes.net .
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Junkit
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9/29/2010
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It's a 92, junk it!
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yea
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9/30/2010
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Get the codes again they are 2 digit numbers so you
didn't do something right.
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T.C.
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10/04/2010
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I'm back I been trying different things like changing O2 sensor, map sensor and alot of different "shoot in the dark" methods and nothing has been working, we even cut the cat thinking it could be blocked, "seen that happen before" and nothing is working. Was able to start it and make it sort of run, though will die down and stall when to cold or after the engine has been working for a while, "when its nice and hot" I do have another post on dodge forum under the dakota first gen section under the name of gladiator, Please we definetly need some help and input. And please check the other site cause I give way more information on that post then this, it is alot to write done thx.
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parts store
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10/04/2010
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Ya keep throwing money at it. It will work out
sooner or later.
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T.C.
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10/04/2010
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I wish not I definelty need some help here guys
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4CHRIST SAKES
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"Get the codes again they are 2 digit numbers so you
didn't do something right."
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T.C.
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10/05/2010
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The codes I got are 12 17 24 27, we change about every sensor, power coil, rewired everything, new ignition wires just in case, and alot more "shot in the dark method" still basically does the same thing though only runs bad during cold starts, colf acceleration "foot to pedal" and when the truck is nice and "hot". Still confused as ever with wat is going on here need some serious input thx.
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daddio
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10/05/2010
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Check this out:
CODE Description of Trouble Code
11 Timing belt skipped 1 tooth or more from initial learned value, Intermittent loss of either camshaft or crankshaft position sensor, No crank reference signal detected during engine cranking
12 Direct battery input to PCM was disconnected within the last 50 key-on cycles (normal)
13 No change in MAP from start to run
14 MAP sensor voltage too low
15 No vehicle speed sensor signal
17 Closed loop temp not reached or engine cold too long
21 02s sensor problem (oxygen sensor), upstream or down stream
22 Engine coolant temp sensor out of range
23 Intake air temp sensor out of range
24 Throttle Position sensor out of range
25 Idle air control motor circuits, target idle not reached (+/- 200),vacuum leak found
27 Injector control circuit
31 Evap purge flow monitor failure or evap solenoid circuit
32 EGR system failure
33 A/C clutch relay circuit
34 Speed control Solenoid circuits
35 Rad Fan control relay circuit
37 Torque converter clutch solenoid CKT or park/neutral switch failure
41 Generator field not switching properly
42 Fuel pump relay control ckt, Auto shutdown relay control ckt, No ASD relay output voltage at PCM, Fuel level sending unit volts out of range, Fuel level unit No change over miles
43 Multiple/ single cylinder misfire
44 Battery temp sensor volts out of range
46 Charging system voltage too low
51 Fuel system lean
52 Fuel system rich
53 Internal control failure
54 No Cam signal at PCM
55 End of error messages (If you get this only, no errors were found)
62 PCM failure SRI mile not stored
63 PCM Failure EEPROM write denied
64 Catalytic Converter Efficiency Failure
65 Power steering switch failure
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yea
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10/06/2010
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Start by putting a 195 T-stat back in it.
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Bob Lincoln
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10/07/2010
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Most people here just want to flame and insult, as you can see. A few will help.
When you got "3 5 5" codes, that was most likely a code 12 and 55.
Now with additional codes, indicating Coolant taking too long to warm up, Throttle Position Sensor, Fuel Injector shorted or open, it suggests that your timing chain job caused a few problems.
Either the thermostat is stuck open, or the sensor wiring is loose or damaged. Both the gauge sensor and the coolant temp sensor are next to the thermostat.
Throttle position sensor is on the side of the throttle body. Check its wiring connection. If you have a multimeter, turn ignition on without starting, and probe the center wire to ground. At closed throttle it should be about 0.8V and wide open throttle about 4V, changing smoothly as you open it. Also, you can unplug it and check with an ohmmeter to see if the resistance changes smoothly, or if there's a dead spot. Even if it tests good, sometimes it causes low or rough idle, even with no apparent fault.
The fuel injector wiring should be checked, also. Check especially all ground wires on top of the engine and to the firewall.
When you did the timing chain and dist, did you check that the engine was at #1 TDC and the rotor was right at cyl 1, pointing to the scribed mark on the edge of the dist housing? If you were not within a few degrees, the fuel injector synchronization will be off and injectors will fire at the wrong time, making it backfire, not start, or run very roughly.
Finally, a bad battery (low voltage or low ampacity) can cause rough idle and poor running. Have the battery load-tested and make sure the clamps and posts are clean, and wires intact. Don't just eyeball them, remove clamps and clean.
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Bob Lincoln
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10/07/2010
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If none of that makes a difference, check EGR valve to see if it's open at idle - it should not be. First, plug the vacuum hose to it and see if it runs fine. If no change, reconnect. Pull on the valve stem with pliers to see if it stalls out, or no change. If no change, it was stuck open. You then need to clean the orifice and replace the valve.
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LOL
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10/07/2010
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"Most people here just want to flame and insult,
as you can see. A few will help.
When you got "3 5 5" codes, that was most likely a
code 12 and 55. "
Boobie the idiot child strikes again!
TC stay clear of any so called help from bob
He constantly post bad info on these boards.
Links can easily be posted to prove this.
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Bob Lincoln
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"Most people here just want to flame and insult"
QED.
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Gears
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Bob you're fooling no one but yourself. You're the
one doing it and responding to your own posts. Try
acting your age if that don't work get your med
dosage checked.
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Bob Lincoln
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10/08/2010
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T.C., you are more than welcome at allpar.com to get real help and avoid all this foolishness. As you can see, they make no attempt to moderate this forum.
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LOL
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10/08/2010
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Yea follow the fool over there and get some more bad
info
not to mention the place is dead!
(why do you think he's over here)
The only one there is bobby boy himself using 40
different names
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T.C.
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10/12/2010
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Hey guys thx, for the help I believe to have find the problem and I fixed it with your guys help. I went to check the distrubtor and notice that it had about a 1/8 of a wobble to it, believeing that would be enough to maybe jump fire the spark to a different location, and that fixed the problem for losing power and also noticed that it did not backfire which is good. Thx guys for the good ideas and for some laughs "bob" and "lol" and bob if I have problems again I will be back on the site though you will probably see some new post on custom style for what I am doing on this truck wish me luck.
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food dude
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10/24/2010
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Have a 99 and its dead. Turn on ignition and no gauges, no
check engine light and the odometer displays mileage for a
few seconds. Then it flashes 4 times before changing to
displaying no bus.
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