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Joe_Himself
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5/01/2002
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http://members.sounddomain.com/joe_himself
Here is the link.. new pics added of the stereo equip and some newer ones of my truck..
So anyone who was Bit*hin last time dont bother ok.. just for anyone who is curious as to what i waste my money on.
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Waltherone
Dodge Dakota
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5/01/2002
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Hah, it isn't wasting the money :)
I can't wait to get my dak in June, I'll be startin USAC competition in September, MAYBE late august if I can get find time to install it all by then. Forget performance, its all about the sound baby!
Nice truck BTW, take pics of the system installed! :)
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joe_himself
Dodge Dakota
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Hey Waltherone thanks alot man.. and yep i am totally agreeing with you.. its all about the sound baby.. What is your system gonna be..
I only had 2 of my three amps posted...and just the basics..
Im in the process of building the box right now wich will have some pics up soon.. and then pics of the cutout in my truck as well.. so everything will be posted right down to the Wiring of the system.
keep checking back.. :)
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Waltherone
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Oh I will be checkin back..
In mine I'll be startin with a pioneer premiere 740mp. From there single will go to a PPI DEQ230 1/3 octave EQ, then from that to an Arc MX-1 active crossover. From there a lowpass signal from about 75hz down will go to my BD1000.1 (running a pair of IDQ v.s 12's) and a highpass signal 75Hz up will go to a rf 600.4. On that the front two channels will give 75+ watts to my ID chameleon 5.25 comp set, in kick panels (the reason I can't get a manual tranny) and the rear two channels will give 150w to a pair of CX62 chameleon seperate midbasses, in the doors.
Got everything planned, every location, EVERYTHING, but I need the most important part still....the truck :(
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Waltherone
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Couple of typo's there.. That's from the 740mp the SIGNAL goes to the EQ.
And that's IDQ v.2's
And with the comps, itll be 75-150=midbass and 150+ to comp set
Looks like I can't type tonight!
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n8 dawg
Dodge Dakota
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5/01/2002
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looks awsome!!!!!!! but i want to see a pic of the front with the speed grill!!!!! now all you need is rims(which cost too much) nice truck!
and looks better with the clears too! and altezza!
and i am going to build a BIGGER box for my 10W3's i am going to put them in the bed. right now they are behind the seat and they dont get enough air. so they dont hit hard. and i have a crunch 600W amp. i have never heard of them and was wondering if i should get a new amp for my subs? the speakers are only 250W. and what deminsions would you reccomend for a box? like how deep? i dot have to worry about space since they are going in the bed.......and the top wont shut if it's over 17in. tall.
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joe_himself
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Hey n8
Thanks buddy for the comps.. your running 2 subs right??
find out what the reccomended box in cu ft is for them.. ported or sealed.. i would go ported if i were you.. if you can get me the cuft dimensions i can figure out your box for you right to the right dimensions.. yea i know what you mean about the 17 inches tall.. my box will only be 16 so its all good.. lol and for amp.. hmmmm .. actually i will look up all the specs and stuff for you so i can figure it out.. find out if you need a new amp and stuff.. i will get back to you..
Do you have any instant messagers.??Aol msn icq anything like that??
if so let me know dude.
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joe_himself
Dodge Dakota
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What size are your subs.. i forgot to ask.. dont wanna give you the dimensions for 2 10s if you have 2 12s.lol
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n8 dawg
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there 10's and i have aol my s/n is wharpig
and i am kinda new to stero systems i am slowy learning though. i am trying to get nice quality sound out of my subs? i mean i want them loud lol!! and my subs i made formy W0's which hit harder then my W3's but i blew them up lol =) and whats ported and sealed?
thanks joe_himself!!!!
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joe_himself
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well my recomendation for any box is always gonna be ported..
Ported boxes basicly are larger and they have a port.. air passage in them for the air to escape..
Sealed is just as its named.. no port holes.. all the air stays inside the box..
i am working on the box specs now as we speak..
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Waltherone
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Keep in mind the box type is for totally different sound. If you listen to punk and techno, ported is NOT the way to go. In a ported box you tune the port to a certain frequency to get an SPL boost in along a slope centered on that tuning frequency. Ported boxes are also harder to build CORRECTLY. people can tell you they are easy, you just cut a whole and stick in a port. But those people don't know much. Even the tuning frequency depends on a LOT. Don't get me wrong, you CAN tune a ported box low, like 28Hz or so, and maintain good SQ (sound quality) but then you lose a lot of that extra output gained from the port because in music, very little in the sub-35hz range is even played. Thus, doing that defeats the purpose.
For rap and SPL contests you would tune it to say 32-35Hz, depending on the resonant frequency of your car, and depending on the sub. Below the tuning frequency, though, very little output is found. Below the tuning frequency yuou will hear even LESS than if the sub were in a sealed box. Thus, ported boxes can't play as LOW as sealed ones can. Also a sub playing loud below the port tuning can QUICKLY damage the sub.
If you aren't that great at building boxes, or don't understand fully how they work, it's a lot safer to build a sealed. Besides, a sealed box can get damn loud if pair with the proper components (meaning, a good install, and a head unit with good high preout voltage). Lastly, ported boxes tend to have a less tight bass response. So if you listen to rock etc, asking anyone who knows a decent amount about audio will get the same answer, that sealed is the way to go..
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joe_himself
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Thats a good point.. and you are right.. but i mean i was just explaining it in basics to n8
Now as far as port tuning and everything goes.. yes i know the whole speel and everything that goes with it.. now i have only been into stereos big for about 5 years.. but i have learned alot in those years.. probably not as much as alot of people out there.. but i take pride in what i know.. i also like to give ppl simple explinations about stereos if they ask.. So they can understand whats going on.. Now i understood what you said Waltherone but to the amatuer.. thats just a bunch of jibberish.. HAHAHAHA good info to post.. maybe i was just too lazy to write it..
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Montag
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5/02/2002
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Hey Joe, I'm wanting to get a new system for my truck. But I can't fit a box behind the seat and I don't have a bed cover. So big speakers is kind of out(for now). I was thinking just replace all the door speakers, get a new radio, and a small amp. You have a sugjestions on good brands or anything else I should do?
P.S. I'm new at stereo systems and electonics
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Montag
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Almost forgot...I love the truck man, the running boards are a little funny looking, but still, it's a sweet ride.
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Waltherone
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Hah, sorry Joe, I wasn't tryin to undermine what YOU said, I was just makin sure that HE knew enough, so he didn't think that the sole purpose of a port was for the air to escape the box.
And Montag what is your budget set at for the system? There's a good setup that'll cost you 500 and an ever better one that'll cost you 10 grand, you gotta choose somewhere in between before you can get recomendations :)
And also I assume your truck is regular cab? If you got some experience with fiberglass you can still fit stuff back there (I know guys that have 4 12's behind the seat of regular cab silverados..hehehe)
You will get good sound still by just replacing the regular speakers tho, especially with a seperate amp on them so they will be getting a good amount of power.
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n8 dawg
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one of my friends has 4 10's behind his seat in a RC s-10......but RC s-10's have more room in the cab than mine.
Waltherone are you suggesting i build a sealed box? i only turn on my subs when i listen to rap. but right now they arent even in my truck b/c my speakers dont fit in the boxes. i dont know anything about boxes and i know a lil about subs and amps. so will a deeper box hit harder than a truck box?
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joe_himself
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Hello again everyone..
Yes montag come out with a price of what you are willing to spend.. and i am sure me and waltherone can come up with some kind of system for you to use..
the steps i figured i would keep them on cause they do look different.. and it almost makes the truck look lower then it actually is.. LOL,,
Ta Ta for now..
joe_himself
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Waltherone
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The box depth doesn't matter. It's the total volume that matters. The sub doesn't give a rat's caboose about the shape of the box, you can make it any crazy ass shape you want :)
If you can't fit the box now, ported definitely isn't the answer for you because ported boxes are considerably bigger than sealed boxes--they have to be.
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n8 dawg
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no my box is to small the speaker sticks out of the box.......the speakers are about ½in. to big for the box.......the magnet hits the back of the box.
and i paid a lil over $600 for my system and then another $500 for the cd player and 4 6½in. speakers.
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Waltherone
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Ahh, you need at least 1-2 inches between the back of the magnet and the box. That is where most subs vent the hot air and having them right against it can get the voice coils WAY hotter than you want them to get. How is it mounted if it sticks out of the box anyway??
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n8 dawg
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i made my boxes for my W0's i had which were alot smaller and then when i got the W3's they didnt even fit in the box so they have not really been used only once and then i set them in my closet in november and havent really saw them since....i have been meaning to build a box and put it in the bed but really havent had any time. i might build some saturday morning but i just wanted to see what some guys that know what they are doing think.
my W0's hit pretty hard.....my W3's you cant even hear them out of the truck with the windows down standing 5 ft. away, and im not joking about that either.
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Montag
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10K!?! Thats five times what I paid for my truck! I guess somewere in the neghbourhood of $750 would be good. I'm more of the "make it fast first" type, but I can't really hear my radio over my exhaust now:) The speakers are 10 years old and the radio is some old radio shack casette player. It's driving me nuts. Oh, I have a 92, RC, LB, if that helps any.
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n8 dawg
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lol $10K for a system is stupid. i have saw guys with $500 systems that hit harder than people with $1500 systems.......it also depends alot on where you buy them some places sell the same speakers for $100 more than other places.
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Waltherone
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My initial setup is gonna run me about 2600, that's getting stuff VERY cheap. It isn't gonna "hit" that hard I can already tell you, but that's cuz I'm doin sound quality competition, all the bass I will need is what I like for my daily driving...which is actually a lot, but compared to some of the things I've heard, isn't loud at all :)
I used to think my cousin's pair of 12W0's with 125W each were loud. That was before I got into the hobby. Once you hear a car that moves enough air to blow papers around inside the cabin, you'll never call ANYTHING loud again :)
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n8 dawg
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I've saw a van with 15 15in. speakers 7 amps that made the van viberate with the speaker making the van actually go in and out......there was no glass on the van just fiberglass.....that was the loudest i have heard and i was about 20 ft. away and was making me vibarate to the point where it was hard to breath. now that i could see him spending over $10k but you cant sit in the car when its on it is strictly competetion. i just want a system that will hit good....doesnt have to be loud i just want a little bass. and for montag he said money is a issue which is the same for me...so we are not looking at a $10k system i am more into the speed as montag said also.....i would rather go fast than have a hard hiting system. =)
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Waltherone
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Heh, money is an issue for me too, I still don't even have my TRUCK yet!
I will get it though....in June, money permitting..
How much power were you giving your W3's anyway? Or rather how much WILL you be giving them? Every time I have heard those, they did get dman good volume and their clarity is pretty good too (much better than the clarity on my RF HX2, which has NO quality but rather just gets loud..) so once oyu have a box they actually FIT in they shuold sound just fine.
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n8 dawg
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i WILL be giving them 300W a peice......150W to each coil. and i might build a box tommorow or monday. and i havent decided on the measurments yet i was thinkin of going with 14in. tall and 12in. deep.......but really dont know just yet....what do you guys think?
and you dont have your truck yet? what year/engine are you getting?
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Waltherone
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The box size isn't something at your convenience tho, be sure it is the right volume for the subs. go to JL's web site or something, get the volume for sealed or ported (whichever you build) and measure the box out so that the next volume is close to what JL says it needs to be.
And, I dunno exactly what year yet, cuz I haven't found the truck. Definitely a 97+, and v6 almost definitely as well. Need to go to a dealership and measure the area down by your feet (under the pedals, etc) and see IF I am going to have to move the E-brake pedal to fit kick panels. If I don't have to move that, I can get a 5spd, and if I get a 5spd, I'm getting a v8. I had found one, perfect, everything I wanted, v6 auto.....then I just went to the web site and it got sold. SO, back to the old drawing board..
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n8 dawg
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i would get a V8 b/c the V6 daks are slow stock. and a 5spd is a must b/c the auto in dodge's are sh!tty.
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n8 dawg
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i went to the site and it says the box should be 32.25"W x 14.5"D x 12.75" H and wouldnt i want to make it at a slant? so what should the top depth be at? and it says they can caryy 500W contionious which is about what i have my amp set to so they should be just fine =).....might try to build the box and rewire it tommorow.
my truck is on autotrder even thoughits no for sale anymore and it is lowered and has a new grill now =) and its faster =)
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McI
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what the deal yall...i have a 98 CC dakota, im trying to sell it so i have the factor infinitys back in it cause im getting an R/T. when i get the rt im going to go ahead and replace all the factor with the eclipse 6 1/2, tweeters, and 5 1/4. i have an amp and sub that sits on the back seat, but im going to eventually get two 12" eclpise subs and two 1000watt amps. i recommend eclipse brand. they are pricy, but they are worth it. the speakers cost me about $565, and i havent even gotten the subs and amps yet.
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