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SloDak39
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1/31/2002
10:25:13

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Regardless of which V-6 is faster, i think the 4.3 certainly runs better and smoother. The 3.9 is harsh and unrefined. It idles bad and has a tendency to race (letting off the gas does not make the engine slow down for a few seconds, then it begins to slow down). If its supposed to run like that, i can't imagine why.



IntenseDak39
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1/31/2002
17:49:51

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i think the 3.9 does a better job showing off....every S-10 or Blazer i've been in seemed to whine real bad when giving it some gas...i like my exhaust louder than my engine!

98 RC V6 auto modifications: LOTS ! ! !

ProstreetS10
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2/01/2002
00:58:51

Right....I don't know anything about S-10's
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You want to hear about S-10's?
Here's my motor: (And by the way, this is my daily driver)

1997 S-10 Reg Cab 2wd

92 4.3L bored 0.060 over to about 4.43L
ARP main studs
Federal Mogul Tri Metal Bearings
Fluxed & Shot Peened Crank (Crank is starting to worry me, but I am ordering a billet one soon)
Eagle H-beam Forged Connecting rods w/ ARP 12 point bolts and bushed pin
SRP/JE Forged -21cc dished Pistons w/ bushed pins
Total Seal gapless rings
Sealed Power High Volume Oil Pump
L35 Heads ported and polished
Manley Raceflo valves 2.02" Intake 1.60" Exhaust
Crane Double valve springs,locks, and retainers
Complete Seal valve stem seals
Crane Gold Anodized Roller Tip, Needle Bearing Fulcrum Race Rockers w/ Crane Screw In Studs
Crane Cam# 1439731 w/ 284/292 Duration 112 Separation and .509/.528 lift
Crane Hydraulic Roller Anti Pump-up Lifters
Crane chromemoly pushrods
CPI Intake Manifold ported & polished
Custom Made Multiport Fuel Injection System
Fuel Injection controlled by Accel's DFI w/ Calmap Software
Custom made headers which route to the twin Garret T3/T4 turbos
Deltagate wastegates
HKS Super Sequential BOV
HKS Digital Boost Controller
Custom Made Front Mounted Intercooler (3 modified DSM Intercoolers with custom end tanks to make one big intercooler)

700R-4 Semi-Automatic transmission w/ Full Manual race valve body, corvette servo, upgraded TPV, new clutches,bands, upgraded input and output shafts

Ford 9" Rear End Narrowed to 40" w/ 4.11 gears Detroit Locker, resplined axles, 4 link rear suspension and 11-7/8" Disc Brakes

29"x18.5"x15" Mickey Thompson Sportsman "I"s in the back and the matching 7.5" in the front

10 point roll cage

Full fiberglass interior

HERE's THE BONUS PART:

Power Steering
A/C, Heater all still in tact




IntenseDak39
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2/01/2002
11:17:50

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you make it sound like you have the fasted car out there....you could have spent a third of that money on a 383 stroker and got the same performance! sounds like an awesome setup you have...i'm for anyone trying to fix up anything but i don't like people who try to talk sh!t...

does that ac intact mean it's there and now working or intact in your garage! j/k

oh, by the way, i think we all have our original engines....

98 RC V6 auto modifications: LOTS ! ! !

Montag
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2/01/2002
11:21:45

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I have a 92 Dak RC 3.9L 4 speed auto with a HD package. I have faith that I could beat a S10 4.3L if I had a 5 speed manual. I would probably gain about 2 sec. on the 1/4 mile if my trany would just stift right. It hesitates so bad I have been beaten by my buddy's 87 4 door honda accord with a 5 speed manual. I have a question, why does my Dak make 180hp and the new ones only make 175hp?



Jeremy Brown
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2/25/2002
01:31:22

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that harsh and unrefined is just the sound and feel of raw power...if the 4.3 liter..had any power at all..it'd be the same



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2/25/2002
21:34:17

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how much did u spend to do this to your S-10?



SloDak39
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2/25/2002
23:48:29

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The 3.9 is many things but it definitly is not "Raw Power"......i think my single cylinder 4-stroke dirt bike idles better......you can feel that "lumpy" idle almost all the time......look at the engine while its running....it shakes and bounces around way more than other engines i've seen....and stick your ear by the tail pipe, you can hear an almost constant miss...its that stupid, obsolete odd-fire distributor.......i can appreciate a rough sounding V-8 but rough and loud V-6's sound awful....as for power, well, mine's a pig. If yours is fast or you think its fast, more power to you....i'm going to put 3.90's gears in this thing to wake it up a bit...3.55's in an ext. cab V-6 auto is NOT a good combo.....



Jeremy
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2/27/2002
01:25:26

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i don't have a rough idle in my truck..it sounds different than most because of the cat..but other than that..i love my 3.9 no problems at all...



SloDak39
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2/27/2002
10:14:04

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I love how a 96 caravan can beat my 3.9 at half throttle while mine is floored and sounds like its going to blow up.....

1999, ext. cab, 3.9 auto, Problems: LOTS!!



IntenseDak39
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2/27/2002
10:17:59

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then go and buy that minivan.



"How's my driving?........Race me and find out!"

SloDak39
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3/01/2002
13:08:32

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blah, blah, blah.......i wish i could afford all the mods some of you people are doing to your dakotas to bring mine up to average passenger vehicle speed.....but i have to keep spending money on all the stuff that keeps breaking......such as my nice tranny rebuild at 40,000 miles for 1000 dollars.....there goes a years worth of possible mods....and i don't beat on this thing at all.....if i did it would have been in the salvage yard long ago.....



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3/03/2002
12:51:38

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The 3.9L RULES. It really shows why Mopar means muscle. I mean i stomp 4.3l's like a Viper kills a Vette. Its classic Dodge V.S. Chevrolet and Mopar always wins. My 3.9L is not the fastest ride but when it comes to beating 4.3's, i always win.



Montag
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3/04/2002
09:57:29

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Last time I checked the Vette was faster. At least back in the 60's and 70's the Chevys ran the whole way down the 1/4 mile. Nothing beat the Camaro in the LaMans races and nothing beat the Vette. I may be a Chevy guy but I will admit when a Chevy has been beat. I am also a Mopar guy and I will admit when a Mopar has been beat. As much as I hate to see the Viper get beat I will admit, that it did. At least it beat the Ford Cobra Rustang.



IntenseDak39
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3/04/2002
15:51:12

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i think he is referring to a production vette and viper... not lemans racing.


intense

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Montag
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3/04/2002
17:16:39

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I was talking about the production cars. The only lemans car I was talking about was the Camaro. Sorry for not being clear enough.



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3/04/2002
17:24:20

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of course look at how Dodge is doing in NASCAR...
pretty darn good.

the new mopar action shows a complete breakdown of the dodge nascar engine...775 hp without the restrictors...sweet!
and the new srt-10 doubly sweet!


intense

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ProstreetS10
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3/25/2002
00:14:57

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Dak Kid's Quote:
how much did u spend to do this to your S-10?

WAY TOO MUCH! I could have spent half as much on a 350 and went jsut as fast. But hey I am truing to be different that's why I did the turbo 4.3L engine. And I spent $10,000 on the truck new in 97 (GM discount)...and I have added around $15,000 in parts so far....cough cough!!

I just have to add....
It was really cool to see that the 2002 Z06 beat the Viper in every category. Faster 1/4 mile, more lateral G's, more creature comforts, and WAY cheaper!! Go GM. I am a major GM fan in case you can't tell. But I still LOVE Vipers. They are BAD! And so are 5.9 R/T Dakotas, and Prowlers look good but they need V8's. Just my 2 cents.




IntenseDak39
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3/25/2002
01:24:00

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where did you get those quarter mile times... just curious because i haven't heard that. the new 500 HP Viper will be out this fall! yeah... like i could ever get one though:(

and i will have to add
why do you keep coming to this Dodge forum?

http://www.geocities.com/intensedak39/index.html?1015106010330

n8 dwg
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3/25/2002
22:08:22

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slodak39 sounds like you got a lemon b/c my 97' dakota has 80,000 miles on it and it runs just like the day i bought it. Its still running smooth and take off could be better but the hydraulic tranny's are pieces of waste that is the only problem dodge has in the auto's. and my truck has never been in a shop.

and my dads last dodge a 93 dakota had 210K miles on it and had 1 sensor go bad the whole time he had that truck, so you could never convince me that dodge sucks. just next tim i ill knowto get a 5 speed!!





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