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stewart jarra
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6/30/2008
08:06:15

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it started where it would not start off the key first turn if you released it it would then start second turn now it wont start at all any suggestions please cant find any thing out of place .thanks



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7/03/2008
08:01:57

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Possible - starter solenoid = listen for a 'clunk'
as someone else turns the key .
Also possible - 'neutral sensor' - mounted on transmission- try putting in neutral instead of Park , or at least 'pull up on shifter' .
Also possible , but not likely is actual key switch.



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7/03/2008
08:39:08

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"start second turn now it wont start at all"

does the engine "turn over" but won't start?

if so check for fire then check for fuel. these engines need 3 things to run, fuel, spark and compression.



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7/04/2008
03:21:04

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Is the engine not cranking
or cranking and not starting

When it does not start pull a spark plug

Wet losing ignition
Dry losing fuel

If both and a gen 2 truck there is a splice in the
wire harnas about a foot back from power dist box
under hood that goes bad undo harnas a bigger red
wire that goes to 3 smaller wires cut splice out
and solder wires togather

If you suspect both put an iductive type timing
light right on the coil wire and watch while
cranking if the plugs are dry and the timing light
is also not lighting its the splice

not cranking
nutral safty switch on trans
starter relay in dist box under hood
starter itself
or just bad connections or grounds

Larry
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7/07/2008
13:23:54

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So if it cranks and does not start, plugs are dry, and no spark, relays have been swapped and the splices are good, then what is it?



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7/07/2008
13:35:19

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my guess is somewhere in the CPS circuit. either the CPS itself or the signal/wiring it sends to the PCM for the ASD.



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7/07/2008
21:34:48

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wow larry you got this one before me....yeah i had the same problem with the cheap mexican harness...the brass pins get patina on them,, a green goo and the corrode the connector...cut all the wires and solder them togeather like larry said......the pick up coil had the same pins and the rotted too...solder them to........you really need alltech and a mech to diagnos this one.....dont do nothing till you have a real mech diagnos this one...it can be a meriod of things



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7/08/2008
16:04:50

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replaced the CPS, too.
Only thing left is the Dist p/u...it was replaced with a supposedly known good one, but.....it sure is wierd how all this started with an overcharging problem.



stewart john
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7/17/2008
17:03:40

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finally got it to start by changing relays now it wont tick over drives great going down the road when i stop will not keep running can any one help



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