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Cory Eye_Trip
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12/04/2007
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I LEARNED THE TRUTH ABOUT API AND SWITCHED TO AMSOIL
All vehicle manufacturers in the U.S. have agreed that a warranty cannot be denied because a customer was using any particular brand of oil that meets specifications, unless an engine failure was directly attributable to the fluid. If it is not a fluid related failure, they cannot void the warranty. The law supports this position.
Plus, the dealer/manufacturer has no way of telling what fluid you are using. How do I know? I am a former aircraft technician. I too was sceptical in the beginning. But now I am a believer.
I WAS WRONG BEFORE.
Amsoil meets and exceeds D/C specs.
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Manny
Dodge Dakota
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12/04/2007
20:39:52
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put down the crack pipe
get off your lazy azz and get a job!
using a non API oil voids your warranty!
Diesel or Gas
if it isn't API certified
it breaks down
your paying
NOTE that using a non API certified oil
WILL VOID a warranty !!!!!!! Such as AMSOIL !
this stan fella is a complete liar and a total moron
"Royal Purple’s motor oils are API certified and will not void new vehicle warranties. "
http://www.royalpurple.com/motor-oil.html
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Dan M
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12/04/2007
20:40:18
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D/C specs? What the heck is D/C? what are their specs?
oops, did I let the cat out of the bag?
- Dan M
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Cory Eye_Trip
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12/04/2007
20:43:20
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Don't bust me for saying D/C specs.
It's just habit and u know what I mean.
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scamsoil
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12/04/2007
20:54:16
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D/C specs
amsoil dictionary = Dumb Chits
we failed to get API certified
but we meet D/C specs (you Dumb chits)
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Geary
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12/04/2007
20:55:50
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Dan M you know this is our old lyin azz buddy Shatto posting all the amsoil crap dont ya?
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LMAO
Dodge Dakota
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12/04/2007
21:06:30
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D/C specs !!!
ahahahahaha
do a google on D/C specs or
D/C oil specifications
your going to roar when you see what comes up!
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P2gee
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12/05/2007
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I learned the truth about API too and found, like many auto manufactures have, that their testing is somewhat less than credible. You must keep in mind that API stands for American Petroleum Institute....these are oil people testing and approving the very products they sell. During the late 90's Ford was having a lot sludge problems with their 4.6/5.4 engines. Ford at that time spec a API 10w-30 oil for the engines. Ford and other manufactures found out that API was approving just about any oil they had too much of laying around just to help oil producers move their stock, never mind whether it met the antisludge requirements of late model engines. At this point Ford and several other manufactures joined forces to create new standards for testing oils used in their vehicles and specifically excluded API from that process!! Ford came up with the WSS-M2C153-H standard for the 5w-20 oil thay now recommend for the 4.6/5.4. The 153h standard is an extremly tough double time test that very few 5w-20 petroleum oils meet. The only 2 I know of are Motorcraft and Castrol Gray Cap. API testing was so useless that many manufactures (Porsche and VW come to mind) do their own oil testing and have a "list" of approved oils to use in their vehicles.
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get a life
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12/05/2007
22:21:02
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"manufactures found out that API was approving just about any oil they had too"
well gee says alot about scamoil then doesn't it???
cause they never got API approved!
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Stan
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12/05/2007
22:41:34
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Cory posted the following info:
All vehicle manufacturers in the U.S. have agreed that a warranty cannot be denied because a customer was using any particular brand of oil that meets specifications, unless an engine failure was directly attributable to the fluid. If it is not a fluid related failure, they cannot void the warranty. The law supports this position.
Plus, the dealer/manufacturer has no way of telling what fluid you are using.
Amsoil meets and exceeds API specs.
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bull chit
Dodge Dakota
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12/05/2007
22:57:19
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"the dealer/manufacturer has no way of telling what fluid you are using"
ballz they dont
if they test the oil the high zinc content in amsoil shows up load and clear!
Amsoil non API certified = Warranty VOID !
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Mel
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12/06/2007
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It is beyond me why anyone would pay top dollar for an oil that is not api approved/certified.
All one has to do is open the owners manual and do a little reading for the oil specifications recommended by your engines manufacturer.
I also had my hair stand on end of the zinc issue.
I mean zinc?
Good stuff to galvanize nails, screws & boat trailers but in engine oil? not so good
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p2gee
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12/06/2007
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<<<<<< I also had my hair stand on end of the zinc issue.
I mean zinc?
Good stuff to galvanize nails, screws & boat trailers but in engine oil? not so good>>>>>>>>>
Actually the additive is zinc phosphate.....a anti wear additive most oils contained when engines used flat tappet cams. This additive was used in large doses to keep flat tappets from wiping out cams. Of course, the EPA found out it was also fouling EGR systems and cat converters. result was most modern engines moving to roller cams and elimination of zinc phosphate from engine oils.
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Stan
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12/06/2007
06:38:34
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posted earlier:
api is a minimum rating for oils interested
only in meeting minimum requirements
amsoil, redline and royal purple racing oils
exceed minimum api cert and don't give a $hit
Mobil1 EP is not API and is made by Craft Oil.
Not even made by Mobil and not even API.
PROVE ME WRONG!
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no
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12/06/2007
10:15:42
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your full of sh!t
amsoil COULD NOT get their oil API certified!
they had to cook up a whole new oil just to get ONE API certified!
ALL Royal Purple OILS (with exception to the race oils) ARE API CERTIFIED!
Race Oils do not need to be or get API certified.
You want to make a statement, get the facts straight.
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Stan
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12/06/2007
10:42:14
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Amsoil meets and exceeds API specs.
That is all that is required in the owners manuals.
All vehicle manufacturers in the U.S. have agreed that a warranty cannot be denied because a customer was using any particular brand of oil that meets specifications, unless an engine failure was directly attributable to the fluid. If it is not a fluid related failure, they cannot void the warranty. The law supports this position. Plus, the dealer/manufacturer has no way of telling what fluid you are using.
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Stan
Dodge Dakota
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12/07/2007
03:45:03
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For the flamer.
Show me Mobil1 EP motor oils
with the API certification donut.
Can't do it can you?
hahahahahahahaha
While you are at it, show me Redline oils
with the API certification donut.
Can't do it can you?
hahahahahahahaha
API means nothing. It is a MINIMUM rating.
Redline and Amsoil don't care about government
mandated minimums.
Both Redline and Amsoil meet and exceed minimum API
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u moron
Dodge Dakota
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12/07/2007
08:45:49
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stan we all know your dumb
but we had no idea when you feel out of the stupid tree that you hit every branch on the way down
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lmao
Dodge Dakota
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12/07/2007
14:12:16
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"API means nothing. It is a MINIMUM rating"
Says alot about scamsoil then doesn't it
they couldn't even pass minimum standards!
LOL
I'll repost it if i have too
amsoil failed API testing!
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Moderator
Dodge Dakota
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12/07/2007
14:18:56
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Your constant bashing of Amsoil is getting tired.
Amsoil sells millions of gallons of motor oil.
Amsoil is highly respected in the industry.
What are you trying to prove?
Give it up already.
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Blow Me
Dodge Dakota
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12/07/2007
17:23:04
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highly respected?
ballz it is u sh!t head
scamsoil couldnt even get API certified!
they failed !
quit the flooding/spamming/flaming!
the day you jumped on larry for mentioning another oil was the day you went to far you little fag!
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