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J and J Auto
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12/04/2007
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Finaly
royal purple has got there new max ATF trans fluid
out and it covers ATF +3 +4
Now a person can go all purple engine trans and
rear gears
Watching spike tv they went with all purple and
ran a dyno and gained 9hp instantly without
even driving it around to circulate threw
I just changed all the fluids in my truck so I
will try it in my lincoln see if it works right
now it dynos at 375hp/450tq rear wheel and gets
24mpg high way 79 mark5, 68,000 miles 400 clevland
motor, I changed the cam ported it raised comp to
9.2 to 1 when it had 9,000 miles on it,offenhauser
dual port 360 intake and a 600 holley, I had to
make my own headers full length with 70 series
flowmasters 2 1/4 tails
I keep this babe hidden in my garage this is
when they built real cars 2nd owner had 8,000
when I got it in 1980
I will have to wait untill the roads are clear
the dyno is 57 miles from my home and this car
has never seen snow or salted roads its from
arizona
I have collected a few choice cars over the years
actualy about 30 I have now, this is the only ford
1 chevy all rest mopar's
Amsoil may be losing a customer
Larry
J&J Auto
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Curly
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12/04/2007
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Allways enjoy your posts Larry. I'll be looking for updates. Hey did you see that WalMart is now carrying genuine Mopar oil filters?
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Bob Lincoln
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12/04/2007
08:07:29
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How many vehicles have they tested to produce that number?
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ElmerFudd
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12/04/2007
08:16:40
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I'm using the Royal Purple synthetic oil, what are the other products I should use on a 95 dakota 4X4?
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Cory Eye_Trip
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12/04/2007
19:06:00
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Larry
Steve the amsoil site sponsor posted this in the off topic section:
"An article in the June 2004 issue of Chevy High Performance entitled "Mission 305, Part 1" took aim at "getting some power from GM's "weak-kneed 305." Involved in the process was Joe Jill of Superior Automotive Engineering of Anaheim, CA, who advised using AMSOIL Series 2000 0W-30 Motor Oil.
"We tried out AMSOIL's 0W-30 Severe Duty synthetic motor oil, along with one of the company's Super Duty oil filters," writes associate Editor John Nelson. "Designed for LT1 and LS1 powerplants, Superior's Joe Jill says he's seen up to 10HP gains simply by switching to this oil, and the intervals between oil changes are greatly increased."
question:
Why would you give up 10 hp gains with amsoil to get 9 hp gains with royal purple?
You are negative 1 hp after the switch.
Just curious.
Thank you.
Cory
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Cory Eye_Trip
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12/04/2007
19:08:05
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Larry
This was posted by Gregg also on this site:
Quoted from Duluth Diesel in TundraSolutions Forum.
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forums/839369-post13/
"Not all synthetic oils are the same. Mobile is a Group III synthetic, not a Group IV. Even though the label might say Full Synthetic, it doesn't mean the same thing for all oils. As for extended drain intervals, it is fine to run extended drain intervals with a Group IV synthetic oil if you couple it with better filtration. Not all oil filters are created equal either. Fram and other cheap oil filters don't filter much below 35 micron and are just cellulose (paper based) filters. Higher quality oil filters have synthetic media, not paper, and filter much better. AMSOIL Eao oil filters filter down to 15 micron, and their bypass filtration systems filter down to 2 micron at 98% efficiency.
There are many oils out there that call themselves synthetic, but not all are created equal, and that's important to know. You do get what you pay for. Group III synthetic oils only use about 12% synthetic base stocks. The rest is hyrdocracked petroleum base stocks. For major oil companies who have their money in crude oil refining, the word "synthetic" is merely a marketing term. It does not mean 100%, but just that a percentage of synthetic base stock goes into their product.
The oils that are commonly mentioned are Group II and Group III synthetics with the exception of Royal Purple, which is a Group V. AMSOIL is a Group IV synthetic (PAO) but also uses Group V Ester technology. It gives you the best of Group IV and Group V synthetics. Mobil 1 is a Group III synthetic. AMSOIL is a Group IV synthetic.
In the late 1990s, Castrol started selling an oil made from Group III base oil and called it SynTec Full Synthetic. Mobil sued Castrol, asserting that this oil was not synthetic, but simply a highly refined petroleum oil, and therefore it was false advertising to call it synthetic. In 1999, Mobil lost their lawsuit. It was decided that the word "synthetic" was a marketing term and referred to properties, not to production methods or ingredients. Castrol continues to make SynTec out of Group III base oils, that is highly purified mineral oil with most all of the cockroach bits removed.
Shortly after Mobil lost their lawsuit, most oil companies started reformulating their synthetic oils to use Group III base stocks instead of PAOs or diester stocks as their primary component. Most of the "synthetic oil" you can buy today is actually mostly made of this highly-distilled and purified dino-juice called Group III oil. Group III base oils cost about half as much as the synthetics. By using a blend of mostly Group III oils and a smaller amount of "true" synthetics, the oil companies can produce a product that has some of the same properties as the "true" synthetics, and nearly the same cost as the Group III oil. AMSOIL differs from Group III oils. As a Group IV oil, it uses 100% pure synthetic base stocks. This is why you can run it for longer intervals.
Synthetic oils were originally designed for the purpose of having a very pure base oil with excellent properties. By starting from scratch and building up your oil molecules from little pieces, you can pretty much guarantee that every molecule in the oil is just like every other molecule, and therefore the properties are exactly what you designed in, not compromised by impurities. Synthetics were thus originally a reaction to the relatively poor refining processes available from about 1930 to about 1990. The original synthetics were designed for the Army Air Force in WW II. They simply could not make their high- performance turbo-charged radial engines stay alive on the available motor oils of the time.
One process for making synthetic base oils is to start with a chemical called an olefin, and make new molecules by attaching them to each other in long chains, hence "poly." The primary advantage of Poly-Alpha-Olefin "PAO" base oil is that all the molecules in the base oil are pretty much identical, so it's easy to get the base oil to behave exactly as you like. PAOs are called Group IV base oils.
These PAO base oils have an enormous advantage over mineral base oils in low temperature performance and in resistance to oxidation, which is critical in keeping the oil from forming acids.
Another type of base oil is made from refined and processed esters and is called Group V. Esters start life as fatty acids in plants and animals, which are then chemically combined into esters, diesters, and polyesters. Group V base stocks are the most expensive of all to produce. However, the esters are polar molecules and have very significant solvent properties - an ester base oil all by itself will do a very decent job of keeping your engine clean. So, people who are serious about making a superior oil will usually mix some Group V oils into their base stock.
Oils that are strictly Group V ester oils tend to be better suited for high RPM, hot running, air cooled engines. 100% ester based oils are usually more expensive than Group IV oils, and don't have the longevity of PAO (Group IV) or PAO/Ester mixes oils. Group V oils perform very well in the shorter term. Oils like Royal Purple and Redline are Group V oils. They perform very well in race engines and in applications where drain intervals are factory spec or shorter, whereas Group IV oils are better suited for the long haul of extended intervals.
Whatever oil you choose, know what you are buying. Just because the jug says "synthetic" doesn't mean it is made from 100% pure synthetic base stocks."
question:
Why should we switch to Royal Purple?
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get a job
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12/04/2007
19:59:05
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because he know far more then you Stan
your on this site all day long try getting a job and off welfare you lazy bastard
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Dan M
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12/04/2007
20:38:07
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0w30! You mean grape kool-aid?
Sounds like i need to start using that year round here in GA.
100+ temps in the summer and < 30 temps in the winter! Perfect!
I bet it'll handle well for my fishing trips, I drive < 20 mph for up to 45 minutes at a time!
Lincoln Larry .. sounds better than honda Larry...
- Dan M
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N56629
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12/04/2007
21:45:20
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"Why would you give up 10 hp gains with amsoil to get 9 hp gains with royal purple?"---Stan
Because he's not driving a Chevy, you fricken moron.
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Cory Eye_Trip
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12/04/2007
22:07:24
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I think you would get similar results regardless of the engine.
Why would you give up 10 hp gains with amsoil to get 9 hp gains with royal purple?
You are negative 1 hp after the switch.
Just curious.
Thank you.
Cory Eye_Trip (notStan)
I aM InSaNe. i am insane. I AM INSANE.
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
I spend hours posting for RP but do not get paid for it.
I am an ABLOSUTE nut case.
I work for free for ROYAL PURPLE.
WHY?
Because I am sickly jealous of AMSOIL.
I am the ARSEHOLE posting all the RP posts.
I used to be a member until my registration
was cancelled for flaming a site sponsor.
My Eye_Trip profile on this site:
http://www.dodgedakota.net/cgi-bin/amb/lookup.pl?user=eyetrip
notice my last post was 6/04/2004 14:05:17
that is the day I was banned from posting
using my registered member name
I am Cory from Washington.
I am an A S S H O L E !!!!
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12/04/2007
22:14:09
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That was a bogus test!
the reason amsoil picked up the HP gain was they switched oil weights!
and you can get the same results with cheap walmart brand oil!
the Royal Purple test was exact same weight oil!
and owww yea did we mention they also had video taped proof!
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u fool
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12/04/2007
22:19:05
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I have video proof of your girlfriend giving me a blow job.
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Kowalski
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12/05/2007
16:54:05
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From what I've read, it sounds like Mobil 1 and Amsoil have both gone to group 3 bases; while Royal Purple and Redline are made from group 5. So is anyone at all making an API certified synthetic oil from group 4 stock any more ?
Lead, follow, or get out of the way
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ElmerFudd
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12/05/2007
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I enjoy this site but mention synthetic oil and the weirdos come out of the woodwork.
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preacher
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12/05/2007
20:32:08
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only the XL line of amsoil is group 3
all other are PAO group 4 synthetic
m1 switched all their oils to group 3
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teacher
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12/05/2007
20:39:00
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API is over rated and worthless
API is a minimum rating and voluntary
neither amsoil or redline oils are API
both exceed minimum requirements for api certification
also, Royal Purple racing oils are not api
and the company only states that RP racing
oils exceed api certification
api is a minimum rating for oils interested
only in meeting minimum requirements
amsoil, redline and royal purple racing oils
exceed minimum api cert and don't give a $hit
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U twit
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12/05/2007
22:14:39
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"also, Royal Purple racing oils are not api "
NO SH!T dumb azz!
there is no need for a racing oil to be API certified!
there is no factory warranty on a race engine!
Stan get off the drugs out of the welfare line and get a dam job!
all royal purples oil are API certified (except the race oils which dont have to be)
Amsoil can't get there oils API certified
they had to cook up a whole new oil just to get IT approved!
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Stan
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12/05/2007
22:42:58
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Royal Purple racing oils are also for daily drivers
just really really short oil change intervals
and Cory posted the following info:
All vehicle manufacturers in the U.S. have agreed that a warranty cannot be denied because a customer was using any particular brand of oil that meets specifications, unless an engine failure was directly attributable to the fluid. If it is not a fluid related failure, they cannot void the warranty. The law supports this position.
Plus, the dealer/manufacturer has no way of telling what fluid you are using.
Amsoil meets and exceeds API specs.
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Manny
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12/06/2007
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"the dealer/manufacturer has no way of telling what fluid you are using"
ballz they dont
if they test the oil the high zinc content in amsoil shows up load and clear!
Amsoil non API certified = Warranty VOID !
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Stan
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12/06/2007
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posted earlier:
api is a minimum rating for oils interested
only in meeting minimum requirements
amsoil, redline and royal purple racing oils
exceed minimum api cert and don't give a $hit
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12/06/2007
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your full of sh!t
amsoil COULD NOT get their oil API certified!
they had to cook up a whole new oil just to get ONE API certified!
ALL Royal Purple OILS (with exception to the race oils) ARE API CERTIFIED!
Race Oils do not need to be or get API certified.
You want to make a statement, get the facts straight.
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