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3/16/2007
21:38:22

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what is this i keep hearing about the PVI system and how it helps burn more fuel there fore = mor mpg.
does it work??



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3/17/2007
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Yes it does work I have it on all my vehicles

It does a few things

Raises the octain level of the gasoline

Cleans carbon from the cumbustion chamber
There are actualy contries that use this system
in place of cat converters to lower emissions

Lowers emissions

Adds some power, my personal opinion on this is
that it comes from cleaning the carbon out letting
the air/fuel flow better

What you notice is it helps low end torque no big
gain but it is noticeable

gas mileage gains from 1 to 3mpg

We have a local police dept that has been
instaling them on there cars

I have taken motors apart same motors with the PVI
the intake and combustion chambers are very clean
without carbon buildup

Califoria there is a bus company that installed
them on the desil motors and they quit smoking

That may be another reason my truck always gets
such good mileage, also many of my customers are
using them and have nothing but good to say about
the system

Mike or Herb PVI international canada

I would only get the system from these guys there
are companies out there selling systems but have
no platnium or rhodium in there they are fakes

You can read about it here I found on the V6 or
the V8 mag motors it workes better hooked to the
test port on the drivers side of intake instead
of the PCV line you can get a reducer from any
auto parts store to hook to this port

http://www.nationalfuelsaver.com/

http://www.nationalfuelsaver.com/easy_reader.htm

Larry
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3/17/2007
16:39:18

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hey can you explan to me how it is hooked up/ how much does it cost??



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3/20/2007
02:27:18

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it just hooks to a vac line to intake manifold

If you catch one of his sales you can get 2 units
for $165

The vac causes it to bubble causing fractination
and it pulls it into the intake travels with the
air into the cumbustion chamber

Larry
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3/20/2007
20:18:11

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and where do i purchase this at i went to the site you guided me to earlier but there was nothing about purchasing one.



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3/21/2007
13:24:37

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Larry, what if you combined the PVI system with the Fuel Atomizer 2000. Obviously both would help, but what if you sent the atomized fuel through the PVI system? Just something to think about.

I have read all the info on both of these sites. Myself not being a chemist, limits my understanding of how the PVI system works, but the Fuel Atomizer 2000 makes sense.

I'm wanting to become a dealer for the atomizer here in Louisiana if it works on my truck. The closest one is in Kentucky.

BTW, are the '95 RAM V8 injectors comparable to the '92 3.9?



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3/21/2007
20:02:17

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where might i buy the PVI and what is the aptomizer 2000



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3/21/2007
20:57:22

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o2sxt, refer to the post "larry, check this" by ccman



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3/22/2007
13:56:27

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http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-AIR/2006/May/Day-02/a4112.htm

http://www.fuelsaving.info/platinum.htm

Two questions:

1) Wouldnt' installing platinum plugs have a measurable effect? I find that they don't.

2) If the platinum causes better combustion when it comes into contact with the air/fuel mixture, wouldn't it combust in the intake instead of the cylinders?

1 mpg gain for me would be 5%, not the 22% that they say is average. And if it costs $165, that's 63.5 gallons at today's price. At a 5% savings, I'd have to have normally burned 1270 gallons to save that much, which would take me 25,000 miles. That's a long payback - that's 3 years in my truck.



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3/23/2007
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If I'm not mistaken, the theory of the platinum plugs has to do with it's conductivity, not with it's reaction to the fuel.
The platinum and and fuel are not going to combust in the intake because the temp in the intake is not sufficient to cause combustion. The Catalytic converter can do it's job because the fumes (unburned fuel/air) are at combustion temp when they reach the cat. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
It would make sense to me if the better your MPG is the less difference this device is going to make.



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3/24/2007
00:39:57

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On this you need to make up your own mind

The 5.2 318 used 21 pound injectors

3.9 19 pound 92 to 99

in 00 they went to the 21

will they work yes but will run rich for first
2 3 min before o2 closed loop happens unless you
use a fuel controler

Larry
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3/26/2007
17:49:25

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Larry, I'm confused. Why is there a need for the regulator to allow 41 psi if the injectors only allow 19-21 psi?
Is it because the preasure is disbursed between 6-8 injectors?
I just don't understand.



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