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bernd *GenIII*
4/17/2002 16:31:43
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Subject: RE: WooHoo!! V6 is coming together! IP: Logged
Message: Jesse...
The numbers will stay (for now) as they are "legit" times. However, after the new engine is broken in and the Turbo is installed...i'm very sure that the times will be much quicker. :)
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6 Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous 14.55 @ 96.01mph
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Fubar512 Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
4/17/2002 20:02:46
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Message: Hey Bernd, have you considered squirting Nitrous into the impeller blades of the compessor side of the turbo? It would make it spool up faster, cool the intake charge, etc, etc, etc!
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Todd Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
4/17/2002 20:40:11
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Message: I'd be worried about the nitrous hitting the hot turbo and igniting...
Er...
Hey, that'd be kinda cool... for about 5 seconds. But neat to see the Turbo turn into a jet engine on afterburner. :0)
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Fubar512 Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
4/17/2002 20:49:39
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Message: N20 won't ignite on the compressor side. You are thinking of the exhaust turbine. If the compressor side gets that hot, then you really have problems!
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Todd W Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
4/17/2002 20:56:05
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Message: Heh, true. I realized that after posting. Sorry, long day at school. Brain fried. :0/
What'd be the benifit of injecting it into the Turbo though? Better mix with the air, I suppose? Man, I'm wondering about running NOS on a Turbocharged engine... seems a little bit excessive to me. But then, Bernd has access to the goodies and I don't. Darn you Bernd, Darn you to heck! :0)
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Fubar512 Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
4/17/2002 21:01:41
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Message: Think about it, Todd. You can inject the N20 at an angle into the impeller, and make the turbo spool up faster, or, only do it once you're ready to shift, to eliminate turbo-lag.
Actually, I saw a build up on a GN several years ago where they did this same trick.
Can't take credit for it, lol. Just want to see if Bernd was aware of it.
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bernd *GenIII*
4/17/2002 21:29:28
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Message: I'm not going that route. Will only be running a 20-25HP dry shot (Sneeky Pete) after the intercooler.
The 20-25Hp shot is for "just in case" scenarios. (Just in case they get cocky.) ;)
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6 Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous 14.55 @ 96.01mph
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Fubar512 Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
4/17/2002 21:38:44
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Message: For that "rare" just in case, you mean!
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CW GenIII
4/17/2002 22:19:20
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Message: Yeah right, rare times indeed.;)
2001 4.7 RC 5sp 3.92 LSD
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kamaka GenIII
4/18/2002 00:09:01
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Message: Bernd this is Joshua Kaumeheiwa and I have'nt got a call from you about the JBA wires instead of the IAT adjuster yet. Email me instead because the time zone diff. is hard and I'm at school while you're open. Mahalo, Kamaka
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bernd *GenIII*
4/18/2002 08:33:12
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Message: Joshua, They're still on backorder. (Were supposed to be in already but were delayed.) I'm getting rather P.O.'d at the manufacturer as well but have been (patiently) waiting for the stock.
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6 Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous 14.55 @ 96.01mph
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BlackDakRacer Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
4/18/2002 13:29:03
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Message: RARE TIMES??? ::inhales:: you guys smell No2??? Fubar igniting the turbo would be bad, then Bernd would have to spend another year(jk) to assemble it again.
~~Eric
Third time is a charm though
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Fubar512 Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
4/18/2002 14:42:25
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Message: Errr...BlackDak, how would you ignite the Turbo by spraying N20 into the COMPRESSOR side of the turbo?
EXHAUST gases drive the EXHAUST turbine (as the name implies). The COMPRESSOR is driven by the exhaust turbine, and sits in its own housing, away from exhaust gases.
The compressor side should never get that hot. If it does, then you are losing big time power. Also, if it's hot enough to ignite N20, what happens when that 'hot' air charge (sans the N20 for arguments sake) hits the fuel in the intake port?
As I said earlier, the N20 would actually COOL the intake charge. Injecting it in such a way as to help it keep the turbo spooled up can eliminate lag. Theoretically you could use compressed air to accomplish the same thing!
Do a search on the web, and you'll probably find a lot more info on this.
Bernd's rig is gonna kick @ss and take names anyway!
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BlackDakRacer Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
4/18/2002 14:44:33
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Message: "I'd be worried about the nitrous hitting the hot turbo and igniting..."
Saw that, oh well
~~Eric
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Tom Slick GenII
4/18/2002 15:14:19
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Message: Everyone, the NO2 will be added after the intercooler, which is after the turbo(s)... NO2 will not ignite by itself, there must also be fuel...
I wouldn't spray NO2 into the turbo as it would be bad...
Later!
Tom "Slick" 96 Dakota Sport 5.2 RC SB
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Lesley GenIII
4/18/2002 15:41:14
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Message: I'd say Bernd put a lot of himself into that engine :P
97 3.9 CC Sport. Black. Auto 3.55, Quick D Intake, JBA Stainless headers, Autolite 3923s, stainless Borla Turbo XL, V8 TB, FMS 19 lb fuel injectors, Brass cap & rotor, JBA 9mm cables, Borla tip, IAT adjuster. Coming: Boyd Smoothies
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Tom Slick GenII
4/18/2002 16:07:27
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Message: sick, sick, sick...
but, you ought to see the new valve covers!!!
Later!
Tom "Slick" 96 Dakota Sport 5.2 RC SB
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IntenseDak39 *GenIII*
4/18/2002 16:23:26
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Message: i would like to see bernds valve covers.....wait...nevermind
intense
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bernd *GenIII*
4/18/2002 20:33:07
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Message: Hehehehe....
Uhhhh, now now Lesley. You and Greg are the only two who have "that" picture. ;)
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6 Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous 14.55 @ 96.01mph
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IntenseDak39 *GenIII*
4/18/2002 21:18:27
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Message: hmmmmm...... blackmail.... gimme those flanges or the picture's going up! hehehe j/k
intense
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