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Chad
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4/14/2002
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I have a 93' Dodge dakota and I have 118 thousand miles on it. With a few modifications to it. Thats a lot of miles...what are the chances of me slinging a rod or something. Has anyone ever tried that slick 50 lube stuff. It soppose to put a ceramic coat on your engine to reduce wear and tear. Comments please.
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Dak95
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4/14/2002
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Just send me the $$ you were going to spend on Slick 50.......results will be the same ;-)
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chad
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4/15/2002
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Well is there anything else that would work or no? Synthetic oil??
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bernd
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4/15/2002
08:55:33
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Dura-Lube: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1999/9905/duralub2.htm
ProLong: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1999/9909/prolong.htm
MotorUp: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1999/9904/motorup5.htm
Slick50: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1996/9607/slick.htm
Z-Max: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/02/zmax1.htm
Lubricants that work in outer space may not work here on earth at all. Materials like PTFE are claimed to have the lowest coefficient of friction, but even the manufacturer of PTFE do not recommend it to be used in an internal combustion engine. Why? It cannot withstand the heat! It is too fragile a compound and it decomposes and turns into a sticky plastic residue and a corrosive fluorine gas. Are you sure you want this in your crankcase?
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chad
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4/15/2002
09:43:32
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Are those the ones that would work or are those the ones that leave the plastic resedue? :)
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Chad
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4/15/2002
09:47:14
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O ok I got it. I think Ill stick to synthetic oil.
Thanks for the info. Chad
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William
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4/16/2002
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Hey don't waste your money on that stuff. Spend the money on 100% Synthetic oil instead. In your case you may want to go to parasynthetic oil do to the mileage and age of your engine. Just make sure you properly flush the engine first and get a high quality oil filter also. Don't be suprised if you start to have some minor leaks due to the synthetic cleaning out all of that gunk that has built up over time.
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Chad
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4/16/2002
12:07:54
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MAN LEAKS! awe....I didnt think synthetic oil cleans out like high detergennt oil. Now you said make sure I flush my engine....How do I flush my engine first??? Run a high detergent oil then run synthetic??? or putting my water hose in the crank case :) im kiddin. What is parasynthetic? Is that dif from regular synthetic
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Quicksilver
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4/16/2002
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Try use 15-40 the thicker oil will help take some of the slack out of engine.I use mobil 1 delvac 1300 15-40 for detroit diesel engines it somes addatives that will make your engine live longer i know this oil works good i used to work for detroit diesel an some of those engines run up to 1,000,000+ milesin about 5 years that an my dak an car both love the stuff hope this helps ya.
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MikeW
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4/16/2002
17:55:04
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I would consider using Valvoline MaxLife instead of synthetic. Info below is from valvoline.com
Valvoline's MaxLife motor oil is designed specifically for higher mileage engines with over 75,000 miles. Higher mileage engines may perform differently than newer ones - engines lose compression, gaskets become brittle, rings wear and valves do not seal tightly. This contributes to increased oil consumption, reduced gas mileage, decreased engine performance and a more rapid oil breakdown. MaxLife is safe for new and rebuilt engines.
MaxLife:
Helps condition seals and prevent leaks
Helps reduce oil consumption
Helps reduce deposit formation
Helps provide easier cold starts
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2/28/2004
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HIGH MILEAGE OILS
A recent issue of Lubes-n-Greases had a article on the high mileage oils and Valvoline (holding 80% of the High Mileage Oil market) attributes them to "padding their bottom line quite nicely". They "DID NOT" mention the benefits of using such a product but they sure were pleased with the results of the marketing.
For high mileage vehicles that have not been maintained well, or there is no way to determine how they were maintained, I might consider using these oils. I think the best thing about them is that they are thicker oils, so instead of being like most Xw-30 oils which are thin 30wts, these are on the high end. Perfect for aging engines. And the added esters do help a little bit. And, I do believe the high mileage oils are better if you want to do 5k mile drains instead of 3k, since they are usually "hydrocracked" semi synthetic oils technically.
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I've done some talking with the garage guys I visit. In order to better serve Dodge Dakota owners, here are some of their quotes as follow up information:
What makes "High Mileage" Oil ... a "High Mileage Oil"? ... such as Valvoline Maxlife, Mobil1 Higher Mileage, and Quaker State's similar product, etc.? What do these oils really contain that make them different - or do they contain anything/nothing that makes them different?
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"In reality, it's a lot of marketing, and not much change to the oil. They used to contain a lot more additives, like Maxlife did at first, but now the only real difference compared to their other oils is that it uses about a 10% ester mix for it's base oil, supposedly to help slow any leaks. Also, these high mileage oils often end up being on the thicker end of their respective viscosities. Other than that, they aren't much different."
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"I'm not sure they really have these seal conditioning esters as mentioned. From what I have seen between Penzoil and Valvoline High Mileage Oils, neither seem to clean very well. Also, the detergents are lower, and I'd say the detergents are lower for good reason."
"If you were to put esters in the oil, or NOT reduce the detergents, it would tend to clean things and if you clean an old valve stem seal for example, that has been crudded up, it would create a smoker letting oil pass by the hardened seal. This is why I noticed that those oils didn't clean as well as the full synthetic's that are known to have esters in them."
"Also it appears that from some analysis, the high milage oils have a lower level of detergents. By doing this, it would not clean ... but would allow the existing crud to maintain the current seal properties using such."
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Again: These are quotes from mechanics. I believe from their comments they are talking about "high mileage" engines that are not being properly maintained and have built up "crud", sludge, or deposits. Any comments here guys?
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Dr. D
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3/01/2004
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Steven,
You know that I have been using AMSOIL for years and the
way that I see it I will NEVER have a need for any so called
MAXLIFE oil because I am already getting that with AMSOIL.
Just another one of your satisfied Preferred Customers !
Dr. D
P.S. Keep up the good work here because we appreciate ya !
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