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ajayz
Dodge Dakota
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3/21/2006
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I have a 96 3.9 4x4 with an automatic and I have had an intermitent problem with the tranny?. Sometimes I will be driving and the the tranny will just start slipping out of the blue. The fluid levels are fine and it doesn't happen all the time but I have been feathering it while I drive it because I'm afraid it is on the way out and don't have the xtra cash to spend. Have any of you guy's ran across this wtih any of you Dakota's? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thank's
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Justin
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3/21/2006
15:34:26
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How many miles and what type of tranny fluid do you use? I have been reading and posting about trannys on this site. What I gather is that if it fails to shift due to sticky valve bodies and the like try 'lubegard' in the red tube. If it starts slipping could be wrong tranny fluid. There are a number of products by 'lubegard' that claim to help solve basic tranny problems. Also the amsoil rep talks about the benefits of synthetics in the tranny. I have a similar problem of my tranny slipping. I am going to flush it out first then run amsoil ATF through and see if there's any change. If not, then I'll try some of that lubegard stuff. I'll be doing this some time in the next month or so due to costs of synthetic fluids... 10 bucks a pop. If you do yours in the next week or so post and let us know your results.
Heres a site that carries that lubegard stuff:
http://www.midwayautosupply.com/manufacturerminorcategory.asp?Transmission%20Products
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ajayz
Dodge Dakota
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3/21/2006
18:38:44
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Justin,
Thanks I will lookin my tool box to see what we had put in last year when we changed the filter I honestly don't remeber?. What is recomended for the dakota? I'm about ready to try anything to save from having to pay for another tranny thanks..
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cuzindoug
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3/21/2006
18:54:50
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Recommend fluid for your vehicle is ATF +3. Anything other than ATF fluid in the tranny can lead to bad doo-doo.
If it ain't broke, fix it til it is.
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Justin
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3/21/2006
19:56:52
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"I'm about ready to try anything to save from having to pay for another tranny thanks.."
lol. I am in the same ball park. I rebuilt my tranny about 100K ago, or had a tranny shop do it. I got a deal, but the real cost for them to do it was $2200 for mine ( 4WD ) and $1600 for 2WD. I still paid $1600 cause I did some of the work myself... Note: I had to make payments on just to afford that.
What ever you do end up doing, feel free to post your results back here. I have noticed not a lot of information for tranny stuff passes through here much. Mostly just conversation on MPGs and Throttle Body stuff. Nothing wrong with that...
Justin
PS. ATF 3+ is standard, dealership calls it Part#7176. Some of the newer Chrysler vehicle run with ATF 4+, but don't know what the cut off year is for 'newer.'
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cuzindoug
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3/22/2006
10:26:13
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Yep, ATF +3, but they are phasing that out for ATF +4 (for all vehicles). DC has stated that one of the number 1 causes for the chrysler automatic transmission failure is the usage of the wrong fluid (mainly dexron/mercon) because of the different friction coefficients, temperature tolerances, pressure differences
lubrication differences between the 2 fluids.
If it ain't broke, fix it til it is.
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Justin
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3/22/2006
11:33:18
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"DC has stated that one of the number 1 causes for the chrysler automatic transmission failure is the usage of the wrong fluid (mainly dexron/mercon) because of the different friction coefficients, temperature tolerances, pressure differences
lubrication differences between the 2 fluids."
I wonder if DC is right in that claim? They probably don't know what the problem is and just go with that general statement. Painting with large brush strokes covers more ground when considering what to say when you don't know the answer. :) Maybe they should just say to use a good synthetic to be safe ;) Or at least thats the word around here?
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Jeremy
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3/22/2006
12:20:06
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I think if you stick with the Mopar ATF+3 that they recomend for that transmission or whichever ATF they recomend for your particular truck, you should be safe.
If I was all of you guys i would put Mopar brand ATF in the transmission. because chrysler designed their transmissions to run on that fluid, that fluid has certain properties to it, and not all other oils have the same properties. i know alot of people around here think this amsoil is the best thing around, but if i am correct, their ATF fluid probably isnt exactly the same as the mopar ATF. therefor with any fluid other than the OE fluid the transmission is going to run differently, and could possibly fail. i dont know for sure, but i dont think warranty would cover a transmission if the wrong fluid is put in it by anyone but the dealer.
so my opinion on the whole thing is go to the stealership and pay the dumb price for the RIGHT oil/parts for the vehicle.
now i better say i dont go to the dealer for everything for my truck, so im not perfect either, but for stuff like the transmission, i go to the dealer.
Jeremy
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ajayz
Dodge Dakota
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3/22/2006
14:34:38
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thanks guys for the info! I will have to wait until the weekend to get it in to the dealer or one of the lube shops to have it flushed and have some fresh fluid put in. Hopefully it will help out although I hate to take my truck to a lube shop I have had some bad experiences with them.The dealer might be my best bet but I do appreciate you all for taking the time to point me in the right direction..
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Gregg
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3/23/2006
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Flushing is the key. Draining is what the quick lube shops do. Tip the pan and drain off most trans fluid, slap on a pan gasket and she's good. Not...there's still over a quart of old fluid hiding in the torque converter. Even if they installed a new filter it won't help with contaminated fluid. This quicky will run around $50-$75.
A proper service flush will pump all the tired fluid out, change the filter and they normally adjust the clutch bands. This is performed at better shops and will run $100-$150.
You get what you pay for.
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zzark
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3/23/2006
15:13:18
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I'm in a disagreable mood today, so...
Chrysler didn't design the trans for the fluid. They designed the fluid for the trans, to fix inherent problems.
You don't get what you paid for if you go to any shop. You get LESS! You never know what was done or NOT done.
The only way to get a thorough job is to do it yourself. And you save LOTS of money.
Flush the trans yourself. There is another recent post with such info.
zzark
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Shatto
Dodge Dakota
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3/26/2006
03:37:59
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ATF-4 is now the recommended fluid. AMSOIL is the best.
You might spring for a transmission shop (as opposed to the big chain) flushing it, dropping the pan, changing the filter and adjusting the bands. A shop will empty the torque converter too.
AAMCO offers a free "check engine light" diagnosis in the SF Bay Area. Free is good.
I had 3 dealers and 2 transmission shops tell me I needed a new transmission. First, I sent an oil sample to AMSOIL's lab for analysis, and they said there was no excessive wear taking place. Kept the transmission for 500,000 miles.
Problem? Throttle Position Sensor caused the torque converter to lock and unlock, especially on cruise.
Be sure to diagnose the heck out of it before spending big bucks.
Let us know what happens.
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