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J and J Auto
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2/09/2006
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I will be putting togather a V6 in aprox 2 months
Hughes engines
258/266 cam
there springs and retainers with 1.6 rockers
the 9.8 pistons
stage 1 type intake not from them but modded by
me
JBA
19 FMS
cleand and polished head ports milled .020
48mm F&B
V6 performance comp
I am very interested what this will show me on
the dyno
This is a build anyone could do I am thinking
around a 75 hp gain for around $1000
Larry
J&J Auto
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daddio
Dodge Dakota
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2/09/2006
14:07:09
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that's great Larry. please keep us updated on the progress. it's nice to see someone looking out for the v6 guys. it's better than getting the usual "just drop a 5.2 in it".
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TimG
Dodge Dakota
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2/09/2006
16:29:41
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Thats the same thing I'm planing on, except I'm going to use the 247 / 259 cam. I have the springs & retainers already now I just need the time to pull the engine out.
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Matt
Dodge Dakota
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2/09/2006
19:59:33
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I am just interested, how long would it take from start to finish on simply installing the engine once it was put together? I got 190K on a 89' Dakota 4x4 V6, and for $1000 bucks and 75 HP - thats sounds tempting. :)
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TimG
Dodge Dakota
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2/10/2006
14:37:06
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I've never pulled this particular engine before but it doesnt look too bad to do. Just puting the engine back in should just take an hour or so, usualy its hooking up all the hoses & wires etc that takes all the time. I'm sure Larry has a little better insight though.
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95V6
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2/10/2006
15:45:22
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Larry, are you re-using your Mopar PCM for this rebuild? Any idea when I can buy new or used V6 performance PCM? Seems they are discontinued for 95 V6.
95 3.9L 4WD V6, K&N, Gibson exh, JBA hdrs, JET stage II, MSD 6A, Rancho shocks , Transgo kit, 4.10 LSD, F&B 48mm TB
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J and J Auto
GenII
2/11/2006
01:40:57
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95V6
You can still get the mopar performance pcm for
the 92 93 but will work on 92 to 95
Just put DCC-5249521 in the search at
summitracing.com they are reman by
Atech motorsports
$258.95 plus 9.95 handling charge and you will
get one in about 2 to 3 weeks I just got one from
them about 6 months ago
Larry
J&J Auto
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95V6
GenII
2/11/2006
04:04:39
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Thanks, Larry. I'll try this.
95 3.9L 4WD V6, K&N, Gibson exh, JBA hdrs, JET stage II, MSD 6A, Rancho shocks , Transgo kit, 4.10 LSD, F&B 48mm TB
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95V6
GenII
2/11/2006
04:14:26
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Just bought it at summit racing. It's backordered, expected to ship on 3/3/06. There is no way I could find it without part number you provided. Thanks a lot!
I have now jet stage 2 installed but I guess I won't need it anymore after I swap in the pcm.
95 3.9L 4WD V6, K&N, Gibson exh, JBA hdrs, JET stage II, MSD 6A, Rancho shocks , Transgo kit, 4.10 LSD, F&B 48mm TB
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TimG
Dodge Dakota
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2/14/2006
20:10:44
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Are you using the stock valves or going with the 2.02s Larry ??
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wadak
GenIII
2/14/2006
21:35:51
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The engine build you are talking about; does it work with a stock PCM or will it need a performance PCM.
92 and 97 Daks both with many mods.
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wadak
GenIII
2/14/2006
21:38:14
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Is that 75 hp over the stock rating of 175hp?
92 and 97 Daks both with many mods.
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97Dakota3.9
Dodge Dakota
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2/14/2006
22:57:18
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$1000 sounds really low. What parts does that total include? I assume you already have the intake, heads, and TB. Are you reusing piston rings? Thanks, if this is an accurate price I need to rethink my plans for my dakota.
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TimG
Dodge Dakota
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2/15/2006
12:56:41
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From Hughes, heres the parts I'm getting....
OEM intake valves $76.00
OEM exhaust valves $60.00
Valve springs $76.00
Retainers $46.50
Locks $18.00
Reground cam $197.00
Pistons $187.50
Rings $59.00
Thats $720.00 in parts. Im not sure what the machine work will cost, I'm figuring on new valve seats & guides and boring the block .030 over.
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J and J Auto
GenII
2/16/2006
09:54:15
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The stock pcm will run my strokers so it will
esaily run this motor you will get more perf
with a performance pcm
You can also get a fact sheet from jet and they
will make a custom chip to run it
The stage 2 chip will not run with the perf pcm
it will trip tps codes and is not needed with the
pcm remember this pcm has better fuel and timming
maps and runs about 8 degrees advance in the
timming its very noticeable even more with the
more mods you do
You may have to drop 1 range on the plugs to
avoid ping 3923 or the ngk fr5
Larry
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lowdak
Dodge Dakota
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2/18/2006
14:09:48
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I agree with 97dakota, there is no way you are getting all those parts for $1000. You must already have some of them!
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wadak
GenIII
2/19/2006
23:01:59
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Larry, When did start using NGK spark plugs in your shop? Maybe you have all along and it's the first time I've seen you mention them.
92 and 97 Daks both with many mods.
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Mopar1
Dodge Dakota
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2/21/2006
00:51:03
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Hey Larry! How much power does that Performance pcm kick out on a 93 3.9? Just a rough estimate would be nice. Thanks for the part # too.
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Fed
GenII
2/22/2006
21:09:34
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Larry,
is that rebuild going to be on top of the stock pistons?
and is that 75 hp over stock?
thanks...
if you will, can you make another list of the exact setup you will have? thanks and keep us posted!
'93 Dakota CC 3.9 auto
(4.10 gears, LSD, exhaust, FIPK, lowered, rear anti-sway bar)
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J and J Auto
GenII
2/24/2006
08:29:46
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No 9.8 pistons from hughes engines and .020 mill
on the head with the stock 58cc chamber so around
10 to 1 comp
The NGK FR5 is 1 range colder than stock FR4 I
tried them in the vortech 360 motor and they ran
better now this motor has a set of halo's in it
On my 95 4X4 with all the bolton's and a perf
comp and crank sensor mod to 14 BTDC base I was
getting ping I tried the 3922 autolite and it
still was pinging so I looked at the NGK ground
electrode and noticed it was heavier so I droped
them in and the ping was gone I ordered aset of
1 colder halo's for it now but the NGK V power
does run very well
Larry
J&J Auto
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Gears
Dodge Dakota
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4/27/2006
14:43:36
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Hey Larry,
How's that engine coming along? We are all waiting to see how you make out with it. 1000$ that's pistons and the cam/retainers/rockers right? the rest of the stuff you must already have right?
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