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J and J Auto
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2/08/2006
00:32:58

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We have been running into some probs with the
bosch o2 sensors 3 so far after about 30 to 40,000
miles they have been leaning out and trucks have
been running very doggie

2 of these were from auto zone and 1 from carquest

Either get one from mopar $102 or goto NGK and
get a NTK same as factory starting at $44 for the
obd1 trucks they have been running with no truble
up to 100,000 miles

ngk.com order direct

Larry
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Joe M.
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2/08/2006
15:10:21

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dam
figures i just replaced mine little over a month ago, Bosch from advanced auto parts



JR
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2/08/2006
18:30:01

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Larry,I have missed your expert advice and answers on this site. Welcome back!



xmr2
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2/08/2006
20:53:08

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welcome back Larry. Now if I can just get my membership going agin.



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2/08/2006
21:00:00

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Now you tell me. I just replaced mine with a Bosch from Advance. lol

Glad you got your login fixed.


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vern
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2/09/2006
07:36:02

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had this problem with bosch last yr bought from napa,was,nt cycling right rich/lean,tryed two different o2,went to dealer they said they had the same problem with the bosch o2 in the cars also

bought one from dealer problem solved paid $84,
it was worth the little extra cost to solve the problem and time and gas putting it in and taking it back,this was on a 89 dak



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2/09/2006
10:20:57

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i also just replaced mine a month ago with a bosch universal o2 sensor. mine also came from advanced auto.

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J and J Auto
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2/09/2006
13:21:04

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Not all the sensors did this the first one I ran
into I thought the truck had low fuel presure but
it did not

Wathing the o2 on the scanner it looked ok and did
not trip the code still pulling my hair out with
the lean smell poor performance and piston ping
I than taped the o2 at the computer hooked it to
a ociliscope to watch the wave form that is when
I found the problem

If you have these symtoms and have good fuel
presure and all other sensors are ok I would than
suspect the o2

Larry
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2/09/2006
13:24:41

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I forgot to add this was only 3 out of around 41
bosch sensors we installed so don't jump to
conclutions but it is something to watch for

We are now using all ngk ntk sensors in the shop
to avoid this from coming up again but you never
know what can happen

Larry
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J and J Auto
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2/09/2006
13:26:50

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I forgot to add this was only 3 out of around 41
bosch sensors we installed so don't jump to
conclutions but it is something to watch for

We are now using all ngk ntk sensors in the shop
to avoid this from coming up again but you never
know what can happen

Larry
J&J Auto

Bob Lincoln
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2/10/2006
08:27:23

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I have been hearing people say bad things about Bosch O2 sensors for awhile now. In my car the original sensor lasted 190K miles. I replaced it with a Bosch and it's been 4 years and 67K miles, and I just passed emissions with flying colors - no problems at all. I don't believe this is a widespread issue.



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2/10/2006
13:23:39

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Thanks Larry for the information, One more thing to keep in mind if you start having a problem.



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2/10/2006
13:50:18

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a 7% failure rate is not what we expect when we buy parts but it sure is of less concern than say a 50% rate. As Wadak said it gives you a place to look when your truck is not running right.



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2/13/2006
06:59:09

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I thought i responded to this thread ealier but I guess not.

I noticed this in my old 95 CC 4x4. I replaced the original o2 sensor in summer of 2004 with one from advance, both were bosche. I traded the truck in for an 02 QC 4x4 in early jan.

In the month leading up to me trading it in, I noticed some performance issues and finally it started throwing O2 codes. Having just replaced it a year before, I assumed it was good. Took it to a shop, they watched it on scanner and found no issues. Finally, getting frustrated, I replaced it with a new one. I decided to test both using my torch and multimeter.

Both tested out of spec. The brand new one, more so than the old one.

Larry - did you ever test those "bad" sensors with a multimeter and torch?

- Dan M



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2/17/2006
22:33:26

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I just got all 4 sensors and still have my codes. Both Bosch universals but it still gives me the 132,136 and a few others...I will try the NGK's on the pre cat side to see if this would help...



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