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entiland
Dodge Dakota
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8/30/2005
17:29:55
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Hello all. I ran out of gas on the highway last week and had to walk to the gas station. Ever since then I am having hard starting problems in the morning. It took 10 minutes to get it started this morning. I am thinking I clogged the fuel injectors. The fuel pump is still making a whurring sound when the key is engaged and I just replaced the fuel filter. Any one have any suggestions. Thanks.
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cuzindoug
GenIII
8/30/2005
17:45:11
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Could be your fuel pressure regulator as well. Did you do a fuel rail pressure check?
If it ain't broke, fix it til it is.
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Ken99Dakv6
Dodge Dakota
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8/31/2005
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I found out about 30 years ago Chrysler Dodge all hard to start you could here them whinning before you seen them and you knew it was DODGE?
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Craig
Dodge Dakota
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8/31/2005
16:31:16
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Generally not a good idea to run so low on gas- recirculation of the fuel accounts for the cooling system of your fuel pump. When it gets hot it's not a good thing. I don't know what your problem is, or if it's even related to running out of gas. Did it just quit on the highway, then when you filled it up it was difficult to start, or did the problem occur a little while later? It seems unlikely that your fuel injectors would magically clog or that the regulator would suddenly clog. Not that it isn't possible, just that I don't see it. And if it was the case you would probably see a substantial power loss and poor running motor.
When you try to start it the first time, I'm assuming it just cranks and does nothing. Do you simply release the key and try again, or do you turn the ignition off, then back on, then try and start again?
That could make a difference. I would certainly think twice before throwing a set of fuel injectors in it- that could be a very expensive guess.
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cuzindoug
GenIII
8/31/2005
17:34:11
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Craig, My regulator recently went out, and I had no loss or power or poor performance...it just took it a while to start up(15-30seconds). Entiland, what year is your vehicle?
If it ain't broke, fix it til it is.
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Craig
Dodge Dakota
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9/01/2005
22:13:48
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I had a cousine that had the same thing happen to his Ranger and you're right that there isn't necesarily a loss of power. Fuel injectors would cause a loss of power probably though.
I was just thinking of something since I believe that the Dakota uses a submerged fuel pump- it might need a new sock on the pump. I've seen em clog a lot on caravans, I don't see why it couldn't happen on a Dakota too. Otherwise a presure test is certainly in order, as is a test of your actual fuel flow. I believe you should see around 40-50 PSI at the regulator. Most fuel pumps can generate around 60 tops. It is possible the fuel pump is dying too.
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OBIO3
Dodge Dakota
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9/04/2005
08:19:31
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Check your fuel pump delivery at startup > Preasure > It's the most logical starting point prior to jumping in with both feet > If after it does start , if your able to shut it down and restart as normal then stick with fuel delivery problem > The dakota fuel pump runs submerged > The gas lubs the moving parts and the and fuel movement in pump helps cool it > Most cooling comes from the gas in the tank that surounds the pump > When you allow your tank to run so low the pump is surounded by air it runs hotter > My bet is as you was running out of gas, you tried desperately to make it to a station > In doing this your sucking gas,air,gas,air and so on till no gass at all > No lubricating going on with the air part and pump running hotter and hotter > The most likely thing you did was distroy your pump > Just remember > the pump was being stressed long before you started sucking air with low fuel > As a rule the pump will continue to work somewhat for a few months > By then your not relating the fuel pump problem to running out of gas weeks or months ago
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entiland
Dodge Dakota
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9/05/2005
15:49:37
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Hello all. I figured out the problem. It was just by chance the problem happened when I ran out of fuel. A friend told me to look at the electrical system if I'm getting gas into the motor. It was the distributor coil wire to the cap and rotor. When I touched it the plug, fell off the end. I bought a set of wires and the truck was fine.
I didn't get to post recently because I was driving across country. I just drove the Dakota for 30 hours straight from Ohio to Montana. Then another 13 hours to Washington St. I towed about 1 ton on a trailer. Besides using gas like crazy, the truck was awesome. I love Dodge and will always trust their trucks. Go Mopar!
I have a 1993 V-6 Extended cab automatic w/ 170,000 miles. I'll drive it till the tires fall off.
Thank you for all of your replies.
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