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DavesKota
Dodge Dakota
10/23/2001
15:23:54
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Okay so I want to change my restrictive intake, and have seen the K&N FIPKs, but I see people building thier own.. (not that complicated) I was just wondering what type of piping and legnth you used. Also anything that worked really well. Thanks!
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justin
Dodge Dakota
10/23/2001
23:04:24
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just buy one dave, if you dont know exactly what you need dont risk messin up your dakota. personally i dont like the K&N, just because they have a big name doesnt mean thier the best, i dont have anything against K&N but to many people have everthing K&N, be different. i have an intense performane intake and it works the exact same it only cost $150 and i got to chose the filter sizes types colors the whole deal. i wouldnt do the home brew though it could be trouble. here are some sites for ya-----> www.intenseperformance.com
www.quickd.com
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FIJIGabe
Dodge Dakota
10/24/2001
00:29:50
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i disagree, i think the homebrew is probably one of the cheapest mods you can make, and for the money, only a couple of more VIOLENT things could get more bang for it.
check out my website for details. i used 3" stainless steel for mine.
http://frontpage.tripod.com/fijigabe0
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Dakota_Dan
Dodge Dakota
10/24/2001
00:51:42
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Im glad that someone posted a string about the HomeBrew, because its going to save me a lot of typing! but what i DO need is for someone to tell me, step by step, how to make and install the HomeBrew. i know about getting the pipe and filter, but thats about as far as i know. im kind of new to "beefing" up the truck, and i didnt want to do too much to it because it was under warranty until about 2000 miles ago. someone please help me out. Thanks!
Dakota_Dan
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Spyder343
Dodge Dakota
10/24/2001
02:32:18
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Hey Daveskota and Dakota_Dan, here is a link to another post discussing homebrew intakes:
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/per/2078.html
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Lesley
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10/24/2001
10:16:47
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It depends on what engine you have. The 3.9, 5.2 & 5.9 can all go with the same setup, but the 4.7 is different. Most of the homebrews for the V6 & 5.9, 5.2 connect to the existing air hat, which means you just get rid of the tubing and box, replacing them with the pvc pipe & K&N cone. The design for the 4.7 connects directly to the throttle body. There is some info that says that the hat is somewhat restrictive, that's why some people elect to go with K&N FIPK as it is all one piece, but it's a matter of choice... the homebrew is certainly more cost effective, as are intakes like the Quick D, 360 AirIntakez and Intense performance. Check out a thread posted by "Bakerman" there are a lot of postings and a ton of info on homemade intakes. I read everything I could get my hands on & was going to build my own, but here in Canada, the cost of filter alone was close to $100 so it was just as easy to order one.
97 3.9 V6 Sport Club Cab. Black.
Quick D Intake.
Awaiting Installation: JBA headers, V8 R/T TB,
Autolite 3923s with Borg Warner Wires
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daksprt4x4
Dodge Dakota
10/24/2001
21:13:39
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i had a chrome 10 inch round air filter on my 00 3.9 and i liked it cept it got too noisy. i made my own intake and now im thinking about modifying it. mine cost my roughly 60 bucks to make including the filter
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stealwings
Dodge Dakota
10/25/2001
14:01:55
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I made mine for my V-6 and I'm very pleased. Just need to buy the cone filter "6x9" and the rest is at home depot. Well worth doing. The only thing I noticed about the filter is that the oil in it took a couple of weeks to thin out. Other than that it was great. Greg
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Joe E.
Dodge Dakota
10/27/2001
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DavesKota, go for it man. It is not that hard. Just get some 3 in PVC/ABS tubing at Lowes or something. Get an PVC elbow and some fernco rubber joiners and whip it up. All you do is hook the tubing to where your stork system hooked to. Take the tubing up twords the grille and where it can get a good, clean, air supply. And hook on the cone filter. No big deal. Did mine in only a hour or so. Really helps in low end HP. Good luck. Any questions, just ask.
Joe E.
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Dakota_Dan
Dodge Dakota
10/28/2001
19:37:17
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So on the HomeBrews, you have to take off the stock front air tube AND the stock filter box? That means you would just have the PVC and the cone filter between the air supply and the throttle body right?
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Joe E.
Dodge Dakota
10/29/2001
00:07:21
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Dakota Dan, What year truck do you have? Engine? Drive trans? I have a 1990 Dak. The air intake system is pretty standard then. I do not know about now. If your Dak is new, Talk to Leslie, from above, she sounds like she knows what she is saying. Good luck.
Joe E.
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stealwings
Dodge Dakota
10/29/2001
03:12:15
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Just a note I think the pvc does a little better than metal intakes. The purpose of the system is to give it a cold air flow along with just better flow. I have a friend that has a metal one on a 3.9 and it tends to get hot. He said when it's cold it runs great but when the engine's hot it loses a little power. Greg
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Lesley
GenIII
10/29/2001
08:27:32
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No, I just do a LOT of homework! Yeah, the metal one does conduct more heat, which the pvc does not. I heard a couple of horror stories about the pvc, although rare it was enough to scare me off. They have occasionally in extreme heat, melted, or in extreme cold (I live in Canada) cracked, with pieces being ingested into the engine.
Most of the ones for the 3.9, 5.2 & 5.9 hook up to the TB hat, so yeah, you do remove everything else, hose, box and snorkel. The K&N FIPK hooks up directly to the throttle body, so does away with the TB hat, it is also plastic so there is no heat conduction.
There are SO many intakes! And they all have websites with lots of info.
97 3.9 V6 Sport Club Cab. Black.
Quick D Intake.
Awaiting Installation: JBA headers, V8 R/T TB,
Autolite 3923s with Borg Warner Wires
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dakkid
Dodge Dakota
12/24/2001
13:44:06
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how hot does it take to melt pvc pipe
i live in MI
so colds gonna b a problem also
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dakota96_17
Dodge Dakota
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2/01/2002
22:21:55
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DO NOT use PVC pipe to make the intake piping. PCV piping is not heat tolerant and will melt and release toxic fumes when exposed to under hood temperatures.
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Marc
Dodge Dakota
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2/01/2002
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FIGIGABE,
Just a little friendly advise, if your going to have a web page with pictures of your engine, you should maybe detail it a bit first. It would look a whole lot better. When washing our trucks it is so easy to forget such things, take door jams for example, just open the door to a clean vehicle and finding all the dirt in the door jam....
No hard feelings..
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Scott
Dodge Dakota
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2/02/2002
07:48:33
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I made a PVC HomeBrewed intake a year ago and have had no problems. Joe E. has the same plans I used, 3" PVC and elbo but I went to Auto Zone and bought a 20 dollar cone filter for mine. You will have to faricate a support bracketfor it and I had to Dremmel out the ID where the PVC met the air hate, oh and if yours is a V^ like mine you wont even have an air hate. A junkyard can supply that. Be carefull with silicones and PVC glues, they can foul your O2 sensor.
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Scott
Dodge Dakota
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2/02/2002
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Sorry for the spelling on that last post, to early and I havent had my coffee yet.
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William
Dodge Dakota
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2/02/2002
14:46:59
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I went the local muffler shop and I can get a piece of 3" metal pipe custom bent for $10 Just prime and paint,,there you go..
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Joe E.
Dodge Dakota
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2/02/2002
14:56:49
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Yeah, I have a PVC homebrew intake. I guess for about 6-7 months now. Works great. To avoid the heat problem, I painted it several times with heat resistant paint and am going to be making a trough of some kind to house the bottom side of the PVC. About the making:
On my GenI, there is a tube that goes from the front grill on the Passenger side to the computer (passneger side), and to the air hat. All I did was remove that tube completely! Then I got some 3in dia. PVC. You should only need a 3 ft piece. Then get a 90 deg elbow, and a 3in/3in fernco rubber tube adapter. The ones with the screw type fastners on either ends. I then measured the 3inpvc tube coming off the air hat to connect to the 90 deg elbow as close to the pass. side wall as possible. Then took another 3in tube and ran to the front of the truck to get the K&N cone filter as close to the front grill as possible. I have a 9in K&N cone filter. Connected it to the front end of the PVC. For the computer hook up. I used the stock connector from the stock accordein air tube. cut it off, and drilled a 2.5in hole in the PVC tubing right where the computer air sensor is. I used the stock connector that I cut of the OEM tube and glued it to the PVC tube. Then hooked the connector glued to the PVC to the computer. And thats it. Alot of this and that here but its not bad. Trust me.
I am in the process of making a heat shiled for this intake too. I have had a few different ones but did not like how they looked. So I am at the thinking tank again. Any ?, just post here or email me at joelliott82@hotmail.com . Good luck.
Joe E.
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Troy
Dodge Dakota
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3/17/2003
18:22:45
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I bought a 2000 sport with a 4.7 2 days ago! And am frantically looking for mods already. I will be putting a Z pipe on this weekend thanks to this thread. As far as PVC is concerned, I am an irrigator so I work with PVC every day. Regular PCV cant be used with hot water because it is only good to about 70 - 80 degrees. There are other types of plastic pipe that can be used but are more expensive. Worst case is it warps and breaks a seal at a joint letting unfiltered air in. But Im sure that some high temp paint or thermal tape which is used on home A/C vents (what I will use) should prevent any temp problems. Im not as concerned about extream cold temps because im in Texas, so no opinions there.
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Troy
Dodge Dakota
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3/17/2003
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I bought a 2000 sport with a 4.7 2 days ago! And am frantically looking for mods already. I will be putting a Z pipe on this weekend thanks to this thread. As far as PVC is concerned, I am an irrigator so I work with PVC every day. Regular PCV cant be used with hot water because it is only good to about 70 - 80 degrees. There are other types of plastic pipe that can be used but are more expensive. Worst case is it warps and breaks a seal at a joint letting unfiltered air in. But Im sure that some high temp paint or thermal tape which is used on home A/C vents (what I will use) should prevent any temp problems. Im not as concerned about extream cold temps because im in Texas, so no opinions there.
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Troy
Dodge Dakota
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3/17/2003
18:38:06
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Duh!
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Rooknute
Dodge Dakota
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3/18/2003
14:06:53
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Hey DONT use PVC. Someone already told you guys this earlyer. Do not buy PVC, what you want is eather metal or the ABS stuff. The different things in PVC will make a VERY harmful gas when it gets hot! ABS will not crack in cold conditions (well maybe in canada ;) and it doesnt get hot like the metal ones. I dont really care if you guys use metal or ABS, JUST PLEASE DONT USE PVC. If you dont believe me just search around.. PVC isnt nice stuff when it gets all hot. You can always find paint that sticks to the ABS suff, so it you dont want the black/white pipe, just paint it alitle, get creative and put some colors on it! :)
PVC + HEAT = BAD NEWS!
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nitroussteve
DakotaEnthusiast
3/18/2003
19:14:55
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do not forget my intakes...check my work out.
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slopehead
Dodge Dakota
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3/23/2003
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DO NOT USE PVC UNLESS YOU WANT TO DIE FROM CHLORINE GAS POISONING. ABS IS MUCH SAFER. How many times must you be told this? when pvc gets warm, only around 125 degrees or so it starts to give off chlorine gas, your under hood temperatures get much higher then this in the summer time. chlorine gas was called mustard gas a long time ago. IT KILLS. BUT if you wanna be stupid and DIE......
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slopehead
Dodge Dakota
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3/23/2003
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steve I like the expanded metal grill it looks a but better then the hardware cloth backing I put on mine to keep stones out of my air conditioner condenser. It cost me 600 or so to replace it and the 1/4 inch openings in the hardware cloth are cheap insurance. For those that don't know hardware cloth is heavy duty screen with 1/4 inch-6mm openings and is made out of a much heavier wire then the screen on your windows in your house is.
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aden l
Dodge Dakota
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3/23/2003
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i just made 1 from fibreglass its a 4" had abit a
trouble cnecting to the airhat just need to
get a filter it was hard to get a 3" fenco over a 4"tube when its installed ill re post
any body know where i can get a s&b cos i like the idea of a open ended filter that way it takes air from the front of the filter as well
3.9 cc 01 aden
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goran garunov
Dodge Dakota
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3/24/2003
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I made one out of 3 inch pvc from home depot and a $20 auto zone filter , Im in the process of making an aluminum heat shield.
Ive won a few bracket races in AZ. with this combo. I also have a stage 2 jet module and flowmaster muff. I also use mobile one synthetics . Anyone with opinions on the jet chip?
racergoran@cox.net
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trolling
Dodge Dakota
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3/24/2003
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I've got a 6" piece of PVC, in my homebrew intake, for over a year now.
Engine 9(or me) hasn't died from mustard gas yet! It must actually like it cause it runs awesome!
And TRoy, oh Troy, you're posting on a v6 forum, did you know that your 4.7 is a v8? Do a search, LOTS of posts on modding this motor!
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ACRucrazy
Dodge Dakota
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3/25/2003
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You will NOT die from using PVC, your truck will be fine, use ABS if poss, but do not worry about PVC.
You guys are silly...........
Whey was the last time you heard of someone dying from a home made PVC intake?
AND how can "harmful" gasses ruin an engine that exhausts "harmful" gasses....
Think about it....
PVC will work fine.........
I just took a 6x9 K&N cone and put in on the stock flex hose coming from the TB...total cost. ZERO.....had the filter on my Neon before I put an Individiual Throttle Body setup on it...thats right 4 throttle bodies on my 4 Cyl....muahahaha..
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