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tony
Dodge Dakota
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3/26/2002
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ok planning on buying MSD... Ive already got new cap and rotor and JBA 9mm wires with the MSD I'm getting the off road box, rev control, high vibration coil, wiring harness... is there anything else i need to use it? I'm not sure if i need anything else that might be needed to have it work with the dakota. Thanks
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tony
Dodge Dakota
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3/26/2002
15:32:12
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anyone?
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Spyder343
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3/26/2002
15:55:55
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Hey Tony. MSD Ignitions only work on non-solid core wires. I honestly am not sure what the means. My MSD wires are not solid core, and appear to be carbon fibres braided around a silicon core. You should make sure that those JBA 9mm wires are not solid core before investing in the MSD ignition system, because if the wires are solid core, the system will malfunction. Other than that, the MSD 6A ignition I installed on my '89 was a breeze. Have fun!
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tony
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3/26/2002
16:29:16
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so, all i need is the control box, rev control, wiring harness, and coil then?
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Spyder343
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3/27/2002
03:21:42
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Hey man, sorry it took so long to get back to you. You definitely gotta check your spark plug wires, that is the first and most important thing. They cannot be solid-core.
Wiring harness, I couldn't say for sure. Some people have said that it helps with the installation on the Gen III's, but on my Gen1 I didn't need it. I just wired it in. So, if you have a gen I, you don't need a harness, on gen II and III dakotas, it is really opitional.
As for the rev control, you do not need it, but you can get one if you want. Iit depends on which model control box you are looking at. Some have an adjustable rev limiter built in, while others do not (some of these can be equipped with an optional, detached rev control). I am not sure it is necessary on the 3.9 v6 though. Which control box are you looking at?
Anyway, I have installed and MSD 6A Ignition Control Module and and MSD 6A Blaster II Ignition Coil, and that is all you need to install the system. All the installation material comes with the parts. Hope this helps!
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5pnt9ltrluv
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3/27/2002
12:23:28
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Yeah make sure your wires are Spiral core. Not sure what the JBA's are though.
Kris
2002 Atlantic Blue R/T
Current Mods: True dual Flowmaster 40 Series Original (dumped), MSD 6A Ignition w/ Blaster SS coil and Taylor Spirocore 8mm, 360 Intakez w/ 9" K&N, Flowmetrics 50mm billet throttle body, JBA ceramic headers, Autolite 3923's, 180 degree T-stat, TPS @ .725 v
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tony
Dodge Dakota
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3/27/2002
12:36:13
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I'm getting the off road control and it comes with a hookup for a seperate rev control. I wanna get it because if I'm slippin while I'm off roading... well, you know. Just precaution. As with the harness, I have a gen III so I'd like less splicing of wires and such. I'll find out what the JBA wires are like. Other than that, I appreciate your guys' help. Thanks!
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IntenseDak39
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3/27/2002
12:39:11
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5pnt9ltrluv,
looking at all of the mods you get to put on your signature sure makes me wanna type all of mine up...
it would take a friggin lot of space!
the msd wire also have the least amount of resistance... at a local speed shop there is a wire tester with the top 8 wire brands all hooked up (not sure if JBA was on there) and you could run a resistance test on it. MSD won with about 50 ohms.
intensedak39
http://www.geocities.com/intensedak39/index.html?1015106010330
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5pnt9ltrluv
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3/27/2002
12:46:10
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Intense- hehe
Kris
2002 Atlantic Blue R/T
Current Mods: True dual Flowmaster 40 Series Original (dumped), MSD 6A Ignition w/ Blaster SS coil and Taylor Spirocore 8mm, 360 Intakez w/ 9" K&N, Flowmetrics 50mm billet throttle body, JBA ceramic headers, Autolite 3923's, 180 degree T-stat, TPS @ .725 v
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5pnt9ltrluv
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3/27/2002
12:59:21
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I am getting it dyno'd on tuesday...
Kris
2002 Atlantic Blue R/T
Current Mods: True dual Flowmaster 40 Series Original (dumped), MSD 6A Ignition w/ Blaster SS coil and Taylor Spirocore 8mm, 360 Intakez w/ 9" K&N, Flowmetrics 50mm billet throttle body, JBA ceramic headers, Autolite 3923's, 180 degree T-stat, TPS @ .725 v
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Chris
Dodge Dakota
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3/28/2002
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i put the msd 6a on my 98 3.9L. With a blaster 2 coil and 8mm wires. it makes it run a lot smoother. I did not get the harness. all i had to do was cut the plug off to the original coil and splice the wires there. It took about two hours for mine, Would of taken 20 min but i made a custom bracket and mounted it on the right fender oveer the the hole for the headlights. Also it was 20 degrees and snowing out. Looks nice and runs great. just have to go in for my rotten smell. ( cat i hope) good luck. Chris
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tony
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3/28/2002
00:30:34
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we dont need a tach adaptor do we?
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Spyder343
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3/28/2002
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Pretty sure you don't.
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IntenseDak39
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3/28/2002
08:01:32
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here kris,
this is all it would let me type in:
Mopar cold air intake, k&n filter, magnum performance TB (bernd's), 1.7 roller rockers, jba headers, flowmaster 40 series w/o tailpipe, jet stage II module, msd 6a ignition box, msd 8.5 wires, msd blaster 2 coil, nitrous express kit (100 shot), nitrous express purge kit, 180 t-stat, autolite 3923s,
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bernd
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3/28/2002
08:03:30
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The JBA wires are built by the same company that builds the wires for MSD. Same wire.
You'll only need the Tach Adapter if you're getting the P0351 code from the PCM. But...you really don't need it as that code doesn't hurt performance...it's just the PCM telling you that "Hey, the coil doesn't have a long enough Dwell Time" (multiple spark systems do this as they fire multiple times).
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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IntenseDak39
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3/28/2002
08:06:06
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here's the rest:
removed a/c stuff, tb spacer, chassis tech ladder bars, panhard bar, custom c-section w/shock crossmember, Comp. engineering 150# coil springs, Comp. engineering coil over kit, 3-way adjustable drag shocks, roll pan (currently off), shaved tailgate, lots of weight reduction, hoosier 27/11.50/15 quick time pro tires, and a partridge in a pair tree....
Mopar cold air intake, k&n filter, magnum performance TB (bernd's), 1.7 roller rockers, jba headers, flowmaster 40 series w/o tailpipe, jet stage II module, msd 6a ignition box, msd 8.5 wires, msd blaster 2 coil, nitrous express kit (100 shot), nitrous express purge kit, 180 t-stat, autolite 3923s,
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tony
Dodge Dakota
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3/28/2002
12:58:19
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Ok, thanks again guys. Really appreciate all; your input. Can't wait to get a few more pay checks so I can buy! It's gonna be awesome.
-tony
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bigtow36
Dodge Dakota
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7/06/2003
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I have a little problem.
I have a 97 Dodge Dakota Sport with the 3.9 ltr. Magnum. I drove it home from work on Thusday, but when I got into it to go to work the next day, it would not start. It has no fire from the coil. Someone told me that it is probubly the ignition control module that is bad. My problem is - where is it?? I believe that it is on the passenger inside fender. A box with three big plugs in it.
Is this correct and can anyone tell me if this could indeed be the problem?
I've asked several 'mechanics' who tell me 'I'm not sure.' I'd have to look it up.'
Can anyone help??
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02Sport+
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7/07/2003
11:35:36
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The box that you are referring to with the 3 big plugs is the PCM (the truck's computer), not the ignition control module. The ignition control module is inside the distributor. I think that AutoZone and probably most other parts stores can check them to see if they give a fault reading. A bad one would give the problem you describe. So would a bad coil or a camshaft position sensor, which is also inside the distributor. Did you get an error code or a MIL light? If so, read the code and post it, someone can tell you what it is, or where to look it up.
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