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Rich
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4/27/2005
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For those of you that own a 92 Dakota V6 (3.9) good luck. I've spent endless hours "Online" and cash trying to resolve the rough idle stumble these vehilces are apparently calculated to have @ 70,000 mile. Why should we have to put a timing chain on, replace a gasket on an inspection plate only accessible after you remove the intake. Now I'm down to what I hope is the last thing to cap off this entire string of events-"injectors". Then maybe a computer. I will sell this piece of junk eventually. By the way this website has been the most help of all.
Thanks..........
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Dan M
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4/27/2005
16:52:51
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My 95 was running very rough, after replacing the breather, breather hose, breather grommet, pcv grommet and pvc hose, it idles MUCH smoother.
I think the biggest improvement was from the grommets then hoses. The grommets are rubber and became hard over the years and were leaking. When looking at them it was hard to tell they were rubber and not plastic.
I picked up the breather grommet from advance but had to order the pvc grommet from a dealer.
- Dan M
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Slowdak
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4/28/2005
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Try doing the TPS mod or replace the old one.
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Dak-man
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4/28/2005
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Try the following:
1. Clean the IAC idle air controller that bolts to the back side of the throttle-body. The side facing the firewall. It will carbon up and cause ruff idle.
2. To cure an off idle stumble on start the TPS modification should be done.
3. On the Gen 2 pickups the O2 sensor should be replaced at about 60,000 miles at 70,000 miles your over-do.
These these and give us feedback when you have the problem fixed.
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speak English
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4/28/2005
08:21:19
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"your over-do."
or you're overdue.
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Rich
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4/28/2005
08:44:39
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Let me be a little more specific. I have cleaned and or replaced every sensor or active component that there is-not short of the dealer putting a new crank sensor in (boy they new nothing and wanted to sell me a new Dakota-Ha). Actually I have one injector failing intermittently-was finally able to verify computer output voltage to injector is stable 2.00vdc+/-. I've ordered a new set from FMS through Fiveo-will let you know. However I still contend, being an old school hot rodder that the core mechanical parts are failing too early-we American manufacturing is above this and should be ashamed-granted my truck is a 92, but has been garaged and well maintained. I also realize a cat-converter is in the near future-not sure I like the price for performance technology. You fellows have a nice day.
Thanks again for the postings-very helpfull.
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Richard
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5/01/2005
11:01:36
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We'll so much for the injector install...30 miles into the test drive the dam thing coded 2-7 (injector circuit not responding). I have visually checked the wiring harness as much as possible and don't see a problem. Any ideas? Is it time for a computer?
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Rich
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5/13/2005
11:10:50
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Turns out the multi wire connector that plugs into the (PCM) is the source of the stumble and bumble. Took a salvage harness and spliced it in. So far so good. Now I can put it up for sale! Going Ford......
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Jecht X
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5/13/2005
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Have fun with that shlt. I'm sure Dodge will miss having an A1 customer like you. I can hear the execs in Dodge crying, "why did Rich buy a Ferd? He was our best customer!"
Don't expect that a 13 year old vehicle won't have issues. Good luck with the Ferd. You'll probably need a loan to keep it on the road and watch out for ignition fires.
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Hcir
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5/13/2005
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I could say my feelings were hurt but it is that kind of attitude that doesn't force a better product-oh ecuse me from CHINA or MEXICO. Say what you will but there is no excuse for the amount of problems on this vehicle 13 or not!!
Run spell check in the future.........Dodge Boy
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Modain
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5/14/2005
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From reading over the original post it looks like you replaced a bunch of stuff that didn't need replacing because you didn't know how to properly diagnose the source of a noise you didn't like.
Am I right?
Is it the fault of Dodge that you are a lousy mechanic?
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Dan M
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5/15/2005
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I bet next issue he has is gasket / seal related. a 92 with 70k? that's 5+k a year. That's alot of sitting and not alot of driving!
I drive 5k in under 2 months.
- Dan M
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xmr
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5/15/2005
22:26:15
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Oh Well he is going to get a ford. I hope he gets a good set of walking shoes. "Found on road dead", and then "Driver returns on foot". I have been stuck with 9 fords in my fleet and they do quit and leave the driver on foot.
'98 cc auto /Home brew cold air with K&N,Dynomax, Superchip Tuner, 1.7 RR,, F&B tb. NAPA cap and rotor, 3923 plugs,tps mod,relocated & switchable iat, 180 t'stat, Crankshaft sensor mod.,PVI,Ported and Polished manifold, bosch injectors,Black Magic Elec Fan, msd wiires
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wadak
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5/15/2005
23:40:29
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Here you can "bone up" on your car acronyms:
http://dodgedakotas.com/boards/ot/659.html
http://dodgedakotas.com/boards/ot/659.html
http://dodgedakotas.com/boards/ot/659.html
http://dodgedakotas.com/boards/gen/1426.html
92 and 97 Daks both with many mods.
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93dakota
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5/17/2005
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you may have had bad luck with your 3.9 dakota, however this is the same engine you see going 200k+ with minor problems.
I wouldnt call this motor junk, it is nothing but a chopped 318, and we all know u cant kill a 318. Go to a derby and find out for yourself. Both are very reliable motors none the less.
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tctruckguy
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5/20/2005
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I have a 96 3.9 with 195,000. Only thing ive replaced is tires brakes and shocks, it runs like the day i got it. Anyone who says that engine isn't kick ass is just wrong.
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joe
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5/22/2005
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Hey mullet boy, oops i ment ford bitch. FInd a ford post than. Just to let ya know i have a 88 dakota with 265,000 miles on it.3 inch lift, 33inch tires and some headers. I hooked bumper to bumper with a 05 F150 last weekend in a mud whole and i yanked that pos across a field in 2nd gear. Them trucks are junk. Have fun putting out the ingition fire and becareful of the airbag comeing out for no reason.
When you trim that mullet you will relize, damn should have kept my 13 year old truck ehh.
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idaho4x4
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5/22/2005
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I had a 93 4x4 dak, ran great for me. Sold it at 180,000 miles. Replaced fuel pump and water pump thats all that every hade to be replaced. Had truck from the time it came off the lot.
Other than you regular maint..
I didn't baby it. I first got it when I was 18.
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Billy B
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6/06/2005
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Hi Y'all!
I need help ASAP! MY '93 w/ 172K on it just quits running about once every other day. Then I pull over and genr'll starts right up. Today tho, it quit three times.I cannot, as well as my mechanic, find a thing wrong with it. I need some ideas quick before I get stranded.
Thanks a bunch!
Billy B
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93dak4x4
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6/07/2005
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most likely the underhood wire harness running to the fuse block. there is a connection that corrodes and causes intermittent stalling. it controls fuel, spark, and computer so you could see the problem. so i would look there first.
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JB
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6/11/2005
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Billy B, my 88 did that a when it was about 8yrs old, ended up being the SMEC (computer). My friend had a Plymouth Acclaim that did that though and it was the Hall effects pick up.
If it were me, replace the hall effects pick up, it's pretty cheap...if that doesn't work take it to the dealer and have your computer checked. Usally they won't tell you when they die. Speaking of, what fault codes does it give?
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