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J and J Auto
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4/16/2005
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Roger has the halo's for the dakota V6's ready to
ship
http://www.halosparkplugs.com/
http://www.lsgbrisk.com/products/information.aspx
I have tested these plugs and found with the stock
ign they show a great improvement in performance
and gas mileage
The design actualy runs cooler and eliminates
piston ping in these mag motors
The price is high but garranteed for 100,000 miles
70,000 on the premium that is not avalible yet
06 or nothing after plug number .036 gap stock
-1 has a .044 gap the premiun plug good wires needed
-3 .060 these will run with the MSD ignitions
check them out
Larry
J&J Auto
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N56629
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4/16/2005
08:48:52
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I still remember all super-dupper spark plugs and gadgets that came out during oil embargo of the 80's. I also remember all the claims they made. Why didn't any of them survive?
Color me very skeptical. I'll wait for the independent laboratory tests, that is if they are ever submitted.
"This plug is not available at this time"
DODGE DAKOTA 2003-01 V6 3.9 X B-DR15YC-1
DODGE DAKOTA 2000-1997 V6 3.9 X B-DR17YC-1
This plug is in stock
DODGE DAKOTA 1996-92 V6 3.9 X B-DR17YC (Just $8.95 ea.)
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Dan M
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4/16/2005
10:51:26
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LSG BRISK HALO SPARK PLUGS
LSG BRISK LLC warrants that the Plugs it sells to the distributors, seller, reseller, or customers are free from defects in workmanship and material. In any event that the Spark Plugs prove to be defective in workmanship or material within a period of sixty (60) days from the delivery thereof to the distributors, seller, reseller, or customers, LSG BRISK LLC will replace the Spark Plugs.
LSG BRISK PREMIUM SPARK PLUGS
For three years from the date of original purchase, or 70,000 miles whichever comes first , LSG BRISK LLC will replace any LSG BRISK PREMIUM Spark Plug that fails to fire as a result of a manufacturing defect.
Warranty is only extended to Plugs that have been installed by a trained and authorized technician and requires that automobiles are serviced immediately upon performance problems, such as pre-ignition, by fully trained and authorized technicians.
How do I become a "fully trained and authorized technician"?
- Dan M
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N56629
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4/16/2005
22:18:44
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Ah yes, I forgot about all that fine print.
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moe
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4/17/2005
22:47:11
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Are these pre-gapped? Doesn't look like they would be easy to gap.
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BrandonG
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5/08/2005
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I'm gonna agree with Moe...Do they come pre-gapped?? They do look like they'd be a pain to gap...
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BrandonG
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DewPoint
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5/08/2005
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Just wanted to put in my two cents...
Kinda have to agree, sounds too good to be true. That is, it comes at a interesting time for both the consumer and the distibuter: high gas prices ( Halo plugs - better fuel consumption for consumer ), while the product is a little pri-cee ( sales - better gross ) How convenient. Could just be a good time for the product's market; or better, a good market for the product's time. One would have to know what the Halo companies owner's intentions were from the get-go to really know if the product is a fraud or not...? Or not, three MPGs more would increase my tank by ( 3 x 20 gallons ) 60 miles ( approx. 3 MPG value is probably rated for highway miles anyways ). I pay almost $3.00 a gallon in CA, and rate my MPG at 20 highway. That would make a $9.00 savings each tank due to Halo plugs efficient spark. $8.95 a pop, six cyclinders, equals six fill-up ats the gas station to break even. Then consider the 70,000 mile warranty, given to the issued 'technician.' I don't know...?... too many pros and cons.
Just my opinion, and subject to change usually due to new experiences. ( You never know, could be a good thing...the spark plugs that is!!)
-DewPoint
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hmmm
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5/09/2005
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Post numbers, Larry. What were the gains over a set of cheap stock plugs? I'd be willing to bet that there is absolutely no difference.
Add it to the pile with the Tornado and the TB spacer.
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Dan M
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5/09/2005
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I can see these being better than stock. Why? Look at the design of the tip. "regular" plugs have a single post, double plat's have a dual post, plat +4's have 4 posts. The halo is alot like the +4's only with a round design that is fully connected vs 4 tips that are separated. Now, I don't know about the exact numbers, but if the +4s are better, why can't these?
- Dan M
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OBIO3
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5/09/2005
14:29:26
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None of the super duper very high priced plugs of the past did anything that a new regular plug couldn't do > They sold well for a spell simply because the high price allowed for saturation in advertizing > A plug is basicly wore out when the edges on the electrods start to round off < Spark likes nice square sharp edges > As they round of milage starts to drop > BUT > They well fire long after this happens > To run a plug 100,000 miles is posible with most all plugs if you gap them a couple a times but your milage will suffer > Same goes for these super duper HALO'S > Sure thell go 100,000 miles but not with the milage holding up > Champion plugs have the softest metal and wear out the fastest > I like them best myself > They fire best causing a smother running engine and if your using a little oil there the ones foul the least > Autolites have the hardest metal and last the longest but if your using some oil they also foul the easiest > Platnums are only a good choice IF you have a weak ignition > They allow arc over to accure to easy and in turn give a week spark > If you install platnum plugs and your engine runs way better you need to look for the real reason > Something is weak > Coil,wires,rotor,cap or all of them > I'm sure some of you well not believe this but it's true > TORQUE? YOUR PLUGS ALWAYS .... Of all the things you torque this is ne ov the most important > How much you torque determines the heat your plugs can disapate > You infact could very well be causing your own spark nock with improper torque > These engines are already to sensitive to knock without skipping this important procedure
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Dan M
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5/09/2005
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Isn't the idea of the halo, +4 to get a more efficient spark/burn? Isn't that why milage drops? Inefficient spark/burn?
- Dan M
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DewPoint
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5/09/2005
20:27:33
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Hi there OBIO3,
"TORQUE? YOUR PLUGS ALWAYS .... Of all the things you torque this is ne ov the most important > How much you torque determines the heat your plugs can disapate > You infact could very well be causing your own spark nock with improper torque > These engines are already to sensitive to knock without skipping this important procedure " -OB quotations
When you say torque, you are referring to the foot/lbs you place on the threads? I am barely a self-taught maintanence-man, and far from a mechanic, however, it isn't clear to me what you mean by torque. And if so, that is torque referred to as force applied to threads, how could that have so much impact? Wouldn't it have to be a pretty big error in estimating torque or pressure placed on the plugs? I use no torque guide, and the chilton's manual says you can roughly guess far enough to place into block, even states one could hear the metal ring or gasket crunch at proper positioning. That when you know its in place. HOWEVER, I ask cause I just replaced mine with platium and they add some MPG and horsepower. I have replaced other essential parts so I can't be certain the spark is the reason, but you do mention faulty ignition and related that to Platiums. Could be a coincident, though. And at the same time, near idle during acceleration, my truck shakes a little. This didn't happen before I replaced the plugs. Anyways, I was just wondering if the words stated above ring any bells to what you were saying earlier; otherwise, I got other things to fix on my pickup. I stick further progress in fixing them.
-DewPoint
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Mike 142
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5/09/2005
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What angel do you get these plugs from and do
they come with fuel line magnets? How about a can
of Slick 50? NOT
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DewPoint
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Dear Mike 142,
Dude, those magnets really work. ;)
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OBIO3
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5/10/2005
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You already spent your money in this area > to spend again would be a waist of money > but there's always next time > torque is done with a torque wrench > I assume you have one you use to at least torque your lug nuts > I have no specks on a v6 > mine is a 5.2 > you was honest to state your a learner and you need good information that is fairly easy to understand > your only going to find this type of info in a factory service manual > the book your using is ok most of the time if your already a fair back yard mechanic > I been a mechanic all my life and even at that I wouldn't waist a dime on a parts house repair book > In all my life I have necer heard the (CRACKLE) you mention when tightening a plug > and if your going to take your plugs out and then torque, you first need new spark plug gaskets > they can only be tightened once in the real world and do what there intended to do proper > not saying your plugs will fall out and not saying people do what is correct > cause most reuse the plug gasket till the plugs get changed no matter how often they have been removed > Just move on with your projects and enjoy the fact your doing it yourself > everybody makes mistakes > I make them too > And I am always learning new and better ways to get a job done >
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N56629
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5/10/2005
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" Now, I don't know about the exact numbers, but if the +4s are better, why can't these? "
I've tried the +4's and have not seen any significant difference. Do you really want to spend four times that amount to find out?
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Bob Lincoln
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5/10/2005
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"one could hear the metal ring or gasket crunch at proper positioning. That when you know its in place. "
Dude, that's your spark plug shattering.
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mike142
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DewPoint; please direct me to a scientific study
proving magnets increase fuel economy. Explain
the principle behind this wonder. You can't.
it's voodoo. I wait while you find it.
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DewPoint
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mike142,
I understand over the internet one can't REALLY get the gist of whats meant all-the-time.
"DUDE, those magnets really work." at the end of the line I put ; ) . If you look at the ; ) sideways one can see that it is a happy face with the eye blinking, as if to joke on the line above.
In short I was being silly at the idea of magnets working. I have no idea if the really work. Who cares, : ) , I was just messing around. Enjoying someone's idea of a laughable joke. Too bad no one found it funny. Oh well, life goes on.
Have a nice day mike142,
-DewPoint
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