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Justin
Dodge Dakota
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3/07/2005
14:01:09
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I know this has been asked many times but..... Im getting ready to change my rattling timing chain and I was want to know what you guys thought. Should I just get a regular timing chain and put the tensioner on it? Or should I get a double roller and no tensioner? Or get the double roller and tensioner? Also where would you get the double roller chain at?
Thanks
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Black dog
Dodge Dakota
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3/07/2005
17:41:54
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Get the double roller timing chain and gear set. Tensioner should be renamed "friction adder". Costs between $40 and $70 more for it. The sets are widely available. Tens.. uh, Frictioner is only from dealer
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J and J Auto
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3/09/2005
06:13:48
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http://www.dodgedakota.net/
how to's has the directions and part #s listed
You can and should use the tensioner even with
a doubble roller chain because it will eventualy
rattle also because the cam was lowerd .050
closer to the crank on the V6 mags why no one
has the answer
The chain is the same as 318 5.2 chain any doubble
roller chain and sprokits for the 5.2 will fit
they use the same chain
Stay away from the mopar perf roller chain and
sprokits we have found most off 4 to 5 degrees
on the keyways and an off set key was needed
the 360 vortech project we are working on when
we degreed the cam the new motor came with the
chain from mopar and was also 4 degrees retarded
cloyes summit or the org mopar chain is good for
over 200,000 miles and no noise with the tensioner
pleanty strong
Larry
J&J Auto
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Pete
Dodge Dakota
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3/10/2005
08:59:11
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Great Info Larry. That is the kind of answer I have been searching for. I put one of those fancy timing lights (with the adjustable light)on my dakota and noticed the timing was off by 5 or 6 degrees. Am I going to be able to adjust this by the distributor cap, or am I going to need adjustable sprockets on the timing chain?
I was in my dad's recently bought 98 dodge ram w/ a 318 and noticed the same exact rattle under a load. He didn't want to hear that it was the timing chain though. Does anyone know if that year of the 318 had a tensioner?
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ping
Dodge Dakota
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3/11/2005
11:31:58
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If it is making the noise under load it is more likly pinging. possibly from carbon buildup or a leaky plenum ( the v-8's have this problem also)
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FazDak
GenII
3/11/2005
15:39:01
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Over 100k miles on a Mopar double roller WITHOUT the tensioner, no rattle or noise whatsoever.
Go figure....
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Robert Firmen
Dodge Dakota
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3/15/2005
02:52:38
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My 97' 3.9 with 138k miles makes a rattling noise under load also. It kinda sounds like metal rods rattling. Is this something other than the timing chain?
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Justin
Dodge Dakota
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3/17/2005
00:02:19
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Hello again, Thanks for your help. I have one more question I went autozone.com and look up the timing chain gasket and it says I need to replace my oil pan gasket to. Do I need to or not? I dont see why Id need to and dont think you could do it without lifting the motor out.
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FazDak
GenII
3/17/2005
08:06:02
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You dont need an oil pan gasket but one word of warning......the timing chain cover is sitting on the front part of the oil pan gasket. Go slowly and be carefull not to pull up or rip the gasket when you lift the cover off. It will most likely want to stay attached to the cover so be carefull.
Good luck
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Black Dog
Dodge Dakota
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3/17/2005
12:47:24
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Timing chain & gear gasket set will have all the gaskets you need. If you yank the oil pan, then you'll need a gasket. On my truck, I didn't need to drop the oilpan. The timing chain cover has a main shaft seal pressed into it. The cover also has a gasket that seals onto the front gasket surface of the motor. The bottom lip of the cover may need a new seal that will be included with the kit if specified. On my truck, I got the seal in the kit, but the oil pan gasket that seals where it contacts the timing chain cover was metal and reuseable. There should also be a water pump gasket. Good time to change all the coolant hoses including the bypass hose, heater hose and t-stat. Also a good opportunity to install new belt(s).
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tc
Dodge Dakota
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3/18/2005
00:32:39
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someone asked if the 98 318 has a tensioner: the FSM says it does - but I have not pulled mine apart. No noise yet as of 70K miles. Too bad my 95 3.9 sounds like a diesel
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J and J Auto
GenII
3/18/2005
03:47:31
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don't forget to take the bolts out that are
holding the pan to the cover
Also replace the seal and bypass hose the mopar
gasket comes with a special seal washer for the
vibration damper use it
No leaks no squeks no repeate work from an oil
leak you will also need a water pump gasket use
some black ATV sealer on the pan gasket it will
stay on the pan but will seap oil in the corners
if not used
do it right the first time saves on head achs
latter down the road
Larry
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Justin
Dodge Dakota
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3/18/2005
11:04:23
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What seal are you talking about? and a seal washer for the vibration damper? I wasnt planning on buying a mopar gasket but if you think should? I guess I will go ahead and do it.
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