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Budysr
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2/11/2005
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I finally made the switch to Amsoil in my '93(only had truck for a year) I did the amsoil engine flush first and then changed the filter and oil to ams. 10w-30.
Now my truck has a small leak coming from above the oil pan and it smokes at idle speeds much more than it did before.
I will say that it does seem to run smoother and maybe a little quieter but its kinda a bummer that I now have created new "issues" that weren't noticable before. It did smoke at idle before but not nearly as bad.
I guess between the flush and the new synthetic I've knocked the sludge loose that sealed up the leak and also the sludge that helped the valve seals which are now likely causing the smoking at idle.
Its not the end of the world as the truck does run really good but I guess its something to think about if you have a high mileage motor and are wanting to switch to synthetic. Guess its time to talk to the mechanic about a little work before it gets bad.
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popsmazz
Dodge Dakota
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2/12/2005
05:37:52
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I had an older blazer that I put mobil 1 in, it started to leak from the pan gasket and rear main. the seals on old engines dont like syn. oil,I would go back to regular oil,unless you want to spend the money for repairs, wont be cheap.
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Scott1981
Dodge Dakota
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2/12/2005
09:41:20
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you really need to go synthetic from the get go or atleast while the truck is low milage. One thing i have done on higher milage vehicles is to slowly swap them. use a synthetic blend for a while and check for leaks. if none are present after a couple oil changes then go to full synthetic. i was able to swap my nissan using this method even though it had almost 70k on it
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Budysr
Dodge Dakota
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2/12/2005
22:24:43
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yes, I probably should have thought about that but I knew there was a good chance that an engine with this many miles was likely to have some flaws exposed with the switch to synthetic. I really do like how the engine "feels" though with this oil even in spite of the now obvious need for some work to get it sealed up better. Heck, it may leak a little now but at least I know its probably cleaner on the inside. As far as the smoking at idle problem, I was already gonna have the valve seals replaced anyway so that won't be too big a deal. I just hope the leaking isn't too hard to overcome
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2/13/2005
10:54:29
|  Amsoil Dealer #1061837 Steven Roark Auto-Rx Amzoil
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All Synthetic Lubricants do have an inherent detergency that cleans and removes conventional motor oil deposits (crud) left over in an engine and around seals ( these deposits fill the gaps in existing older seals which created "false seals").
The only time you would observe seal leakage is:
1) if the seals are already damaged or showing signs of leakage around them
2) deposits that kept the seal from functioning normally are cleaned away
If the vehicle had been well maintained, and in good mechanical condition, it should have been able to be switched to a synthetic lubricant with absolutely no problems. Why? All motor oils (synthetics included) are designed to help swell seals slightly to prevent leakage.
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Budysr,
Consider an Engine Flush.
Amsoil has an Engine Flush, but I am posting here to PERHAPS offer you an alternative. I know many guys that have used it in older engines. It's name is Auto-Rx, (and no - I do not sell this product).
This product should be considered no matter what oil or engine used (some Amsoil Clients have used it with great success, but Auto-Rx's website states you should use it with dino). Again, the product name is Auto-Rx. It is vegetable based and it does not affect chemistry or viscosity of the host motor oil at all.
It is NOT an Additive but a engine cleaner that really works. It has a residual effect because it cleans the rings and valve seats and valve guide seals so well. Lasts 10,000 miles or so in a gasoline engine.
Should you be concerned about seals? I've been told this stuff will simply clean the abrasive deposits that keep the seal from functioning normally. This may help you with your problem.
I know a guy that used it in an older engine with a noticable oil pan gasket leak and it almost stopped the leakage after 500 miles. He also stated that it also helped his noisy lifters and cleaned off baked on varnish.
Again, this is not a recommendation, just looking to offer a "safe" alternative for Dakota owners that would prefer to flush their engines prior to switching.
You can check out their website at www.auto-rx.com
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Budysr
Dodge Dakota
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2/13/2005
11:11:39
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Steven, I actually did use the Auto-rx after seeing you recommend it on here. I had just finished the necessary mileage to complete the "rinsing phase" of that product and just decided to run a can of the Amsoil flush before I drained the dino oil and put the Ams. in. This engine has 170k miles on it and the previous owners may not have changed the oil as often as they should have b/c it is(or was) pretty sludged up.
Is there a chance that maybe the engine(seals) need a chance to adjust to the synthetic and might reset themselves a little better? I have only driven a few miles since the swap.
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2/14/2005
06:40:49
| Amsoil Dealer #1061837 Steven Roark Amzoil Ams Oil
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Yes Budsr,
Within 500 miles there is a good chance the synthetics will recondition (and re-swell) the seals and the problem will go away. All motor oils (synthetics included) are designed to help swell seals slightly to prevent leakage.
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