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sanger0ne
Dodge Dakota
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3/11/2002
14:35:57
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How's it going,
I have a 94,3.9,auto, and might have a chance at getting a free v8 throttle body but have a few questions:
Haven't heard of too many people doing this to a genII, can I do it without any modifications, just a v8 throttle body cable?
Is it ok to use with an open air element?
I know the 94-95 dakota and ram v8 throttle bodies are the same, do I have to use one from these years or can I use one from a different year?
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IntenseDak39
GenIII
3/11/2002
14:38:30
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you should be able to use any magnum v8 (48mm) with your engine. if you ever get your intake manifold off you might want to port match the intake to the larger TB.
intense
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sanger0ne
Dodge Dakota
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3/11/2002
14:51:26
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How important is it to port match the intake? And how would you do that? "I know nothing about cars"
And thanks for the help.
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IntenseDak39
GenIII
3/11/2002
15:09:38
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it's not the most important thing but the manifold has ports in it to match the v6 throttle body. the v8 has a little bit bigger ports so if you grind the ports on the intake manifold to match, it would help even more... but your intake manifold would have to be off to do that procedure.
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FazDak
GenII
3/11/2002
15:16:23
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sangerone, your on the right track to better performance.
Intense is right, you should have no problem, I have a 94 and it was a bolt on but as he was stating about port matching he is right.
I simply bolted mine on at first and after a few miniutes of driving could feel the difference but after I port match I felt even more of a difference.
As you will notice after you get your V8 TB on is that the V6TB had 1 5/8 bores and the V8's is close to 2" so Ma Mopar made the bores heading into the intake 1 5/8 so theres a big step under a V8TB when installed without porting.
Hope that helped.
Good luck, Scott
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IntenseDak39
GenIII
3/11/2002
15:23:06
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ahhh.... fazdak,
how's the intake manifold coming along. cw is sending me a throttle body spacer for cheap. i am going to drill and tap both sides and run two nozzles... he he he
still need to port match my intake though. all in one day i am going to port match the uh.. ports and trim the divider up and grind the runners down... sound like fun? if so... come down and join me!
intensedak39
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sanger0ne
Dodge Dakota
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3/11/2002
15:25:52
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Don't think I'll be doing that (taking off the intake manifold) but sense there's ports underneath the throttle body will the v8 throttle body plates hit those when opened and if so how could I fix that without porting the manifold?
Thanks again
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alex
Dodge Dakota
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3/11/2002
15:33:39
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If you're going to port match the intake, you have to take it off the engine. Otherwise you'll fill the intake manifold with metal shavings. That's a definite No-No.
As for the throttlebody, there were different throttle linkages from 1992-1993-1994. Depending on your set-up, the linkage on the throttle body may interfere with the fuel rail. The 1994 linkage (for instance) will hit the fuel rail on the 1992 engine, etc. and keep the throttle blades from opening all the way. Ooops. A little work with El Dremel-o will fix that, but just check before you bolt it down tight.
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FazDak
GenII
3/11/2002
21:14:43
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Intense, if the TB spacer is an Airraid it'll be a little more work than your expecting, you will need to grind out the whole center of it.
By the way, now that I have my new intake and spacer back from the machine shop I have to tell you, drilling and tapping a hole for the injector in the rear isnt a good idea, there is a valve in the rear that keeps the injector from lining up over the ports, but it'l work for dual stage I think, just put your lower stage in the rear.
Like I said before Intense, I wish we lived closer we both seem to enjoy the same kinda car tourture, lol.
Also, been there done than and then did it again!!
Good luck, Scott
PS: rear still isnt done, cracked housing tryin to figure ou if Im gonna repair it or not.
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IntenseDak39
GenIII
3/12/2002
02:18:02
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well i don't know if it is a airraid or not... i am looking for the two ports though. a nozzle on each side. muhahaha!!! not dual stage but i am going to split the lines after the solenoids and run two 50 shot (one in each port). i am also going to call nitrous express to see if that will actually be more than a 100 shot depending on how they measure it.
come on!!! ROAD TRIP!
intensedak39
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FazDak
GenII
3/12/2002
10:29:10
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See now you A hole!! J/K
That is EXACTLY what I asked you guys (as Scott) when I first started posting, you and Bernd both said there was no need for 2 injectors and promptly talked me out of it!!!
Dont take the credit for this Intense, lol.
But seirously, I did think 2 would make for better distribution but now that I have one drilled right in the front and its lined up almost directly over the ports its cool with me that way.
What you should do is what you said earlier, 2 stage, one injector in the front and one in the back off the spacer that way there lined up over the ports not one in each port, that would be the money!!
Good luck, Scott
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IntenseDak39
GenIII
3/12/2002
13:00:56
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fazdak,
yeah, but the 2 stage kit is $350
correction, that is not what you said as "Scott", you wanted to run more than one nozzle into the intake manifold which would be more work than needed. We were just trying to keep you from drilling holes in your intake manifold. i have a big opening in the front of my intake manifold without the a/c blocking it so i was just thinking of drilling, tapping and putting a nozzle there because it really wouldn't mess with proportion (remember;each cylinder is the same size and can only suck the same amount of nitrous in). but i realized i would be DRILLING A HOLE IN MY INTAKE MANIFOLD! Tom "Slick" shed light on that tbs thing when i met him down here right before you mentioned it to me on this forum. the only reason i am doing it is because my nozzle in my mopar air kit keeps dripping a little gas down the tube and onto filter... ruining my filter. i just thought that the two nozzles would be easier than doing all of the work that you did (have a custom built tbs). i am getting my tbs for $20 and i was looking and didn't see very much room behind the throttle body for a nozzle. Believe me... what i really want is a port injection... now that would be bad@ss!
what you gotta remember is that the nitrous fills your intake manifold real fast, no REAL fast so with our beer barrel intakes there really isn't a chance of a more nitrous getting to another cylinder faster.
hell, if i get cheap (not wanting to buy another nozzle,$45, two more hoses, and two t-adapters, than i might just drill out the center of the tbs like you did.
i will give credit to you! next time some guy asks about my nitrous setup... i will say "careful buddy... that's patent protected by fazdak" lol
intensedak39
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FazDak
GenII
3/12/2002
15:01:00
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YOU A FUNNY SOMEBODY!!
No problem dude, I hope you know I was just funnin with ya.
I talked to a guy across town who does flow bench work and this is what he had to say after I showed him my intake thats currently not on my truck.
He said that pressure and flow do make a difference and that there is a reason why ports are designed equal length and the that divider is there and if you remove it or even some of it it affects your HP and TQ, so anything flowin thru and intake should be ballanced and equally distributed or you can have a lean condition in the cylinders farthest from the NOS/Fuel injector. He said to remeber that your engine works off of vacuum that is created by the cyl. pulling the mixture in and that being said if an injector is closer to one cyl. then that cyl. has the ability to pull more by way of a shorter distance.
Take it for what its worth, just tryin to help you to not fry a piston or two
Good luck, Scott
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FazDak
GenII
3/12/2002
15:05:42
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Oh and by the way.
You will like the picts of my spacer once I get em to you and I am working a deal with that machine shop to make some more and I may try to patent it, dude it works awsum!!
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IntenseDak39
GenIII
3/12/2002
17:18:57
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cool, i know you were messing with me... i agree with that guy...somewhat anyway...but i am going to do the two nozzle dance over here...let you know how it works out.
intense
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FazDak
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3/12/2002
19:37:34
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Please keep me informed.
Dont care if its my idea or someone elses so long as someone tries it.:D
Good luck, Scott
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Jennifer
Dodge Dakota
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8/28/2006
11:16:08
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I need a very simple answer to this question: is there a throttle body cable (accelerator cable) that can be used in place of original one for a 94 Dodge Dakota pickup V6. Apparently, Dodge has discontinued the part and cannot find at salvage yards. One I have is about to go; not trying to soup up or modify, just need replacement. You guys seem to know your stuff, can you help??
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Gears
Dodge Dakota
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8/28/2006
18:53:04
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Jennifer,
Your asking for help from a old posting. Look at the date on the posting above yours " FazDak 3/12/2002 " I don't know where you can get a replacement, but you might want to try starting a new post to get an answer.
........Gears
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