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bigm_l_b
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9/02/2004
19:34:03

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hello, just wondering I was told that you can not use open airbreathers like the edelbrock one on fuel injected vehicles is that true?????



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9/02/2004
20:47:00

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You tell me...



That's a pic of my 98 Dakota.

This site tells you everything.
http://www.dakota-truck.net/UPGRADES/FABM/fabmdml.html

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9/02/2004
22:00:00

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I am impressed, thanks for the help



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9/02/2004
23:13:37

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There's no reason why you can't use the open air filters on fuel injected engines, but unless your feeding air into the filter through the hood, you'll more than likely loose a minor amount of hp due to the fact that all your sucking in is the hot air off of the motor...

If you do go with this setup I might recommend the K&N exstreme air filter element where it sucks air straight into the tb through the top of the filter along with the regular side filtering...



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9/03/2004
01:50:53

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While I can't say I had a real noticeable gain, I can say I didn't lose anything when I did mine... you're still letting in a hell of a lot more air, but yeah, it's all hot air so it pretty much evens out. I'm hoping to get a ram air hood in the near future and I bet that'll give me a nice hp boost.

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9/03/2004
03:28:34

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josh - what did your 'conversion' cost you?



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9/03/2004
04:00:14

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The air cleaner is around $20-25 at Autozone
Edelbrock Signature Series p/n 1208...10" air cleaner with the integral "nipple" for the crankcase breather hose. They say you have to modify it to make it fit, but I just rerouted my stock one to the front and I have had no problems with it.

Oh yeah, you'll need to make an S-bolt as well... the rod for that is like $2 for a bar that will leave you with PLENTY of extra.

I bought a K&N filter for it also for around $35, but I may switch back to a standard paper filter since K&N's flow a lot more dirt into the engine.

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9/03/2004
08:23:21

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"you'll more than likely loose a minor amount of hp due to the fact that all your sucking in is the hot air off of the motor..."
" can say I didn't lose anything when I did mine... you're still letting in a hell of a lot more air, but yeah, it's all hot air so it pretty much evens out."

I wondered about this. I put a K&N drop-in filter in the stock housing, and removed the hose, so I was drawing air in the snorkel directly underhood. Gas mileage and power seemed the same without the hose. I put it back, but will remove the flap in the grill to pull more air in directly.



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9/04/2004
02:03:02

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spose it would make a (air temp) difference to remove the fatty weatherstripping from the top/windshield-side of a stock hood? (with the open element 'can')


Jeff
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9/04/2004
02:31:47

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I used the 14X3 K&N with the 14" extream top
cover and than added a hood scoop and it made a
big diff, My IAT used to read almost the same as
engine temp now going over 40mph the IAT temp
will drop to 120 122 degrees so I know it works
well reading it on my AutoXray scanner while
driving you can see the temp rise when the
throttle closes and cool back down when you open
it up at 55 60 mph its around 110 120

Remove the flap and run a 3 or 4" tube up to blow
on the air cleaner and it will help either from
the stock grill location or pick it up in front
of the inner fender well on the g3's

I also just ordered a perma-cool 19115 16" 2950
cfm electric fan to replace my smaller one on hot
days It runs 186.8 the fan kicks on and shuts off
at 185

cool is cool 179 RWHP and I hit 24.9mpg on the
highway average 22 23 mpg in all driving
conditions 21.5 when I get a lead foot

Larry
J&J Auto

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