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Jonas
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1/08/2002
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Hey guys, After alot of work I finally have the GTS style rollpan and exhaust prototype done!
They will be availbale for sale in abouyt 6 weeks.
Right now Im looking for some feedback on it! If anyone wants me to forward you a bunch of pics of theM Id be glad to in exchage for you opinion!
Just email me and Ill send them to you!
Jonas
dakotagroupbuys@aol.com
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low99dakota
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1/08/2002
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I'd like to see the pics... jfurbay@marksonrosenthal.com
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Blizzard
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1/08/2002
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Why don't you post a pic or two here in the forums to start with?
'01 QC 4x4
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Jonas
Dodge Dakota
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1/09/2002
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Kevin, Im having some password and uploading problems.. ill go ahead and forward them to you and if you dont mind maybe you can post a few. It wont be ready for weeks to come but Id just like a few opinions.
Jonas
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Nirami..
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1/09/2002
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Send a few pics my way as well: nirami@ec.rr.com
- Mikel
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Blizzard
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1/09/2002
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I'll post a couple of pics here tomorrow (have the email with the pics at work). I think it would look great on an R/T!
'01 QC 4x4
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Blizzard
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1/10/2002
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Here are a few pics of that GTS style rollpan/exhaust ...
'01 QC 4x4
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http://shakin-notstirred.tripod.com
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Jonas
Dodge Dakota
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1/12/2002
08:20:07
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Well thanks Kevin!
So opinions anyone? Like it, Hate it? Think its ok? Think it sucks???? Just looking for some response here.....
BTW on the final kit, the rollpan should be painted to match and teh exhaust piping will not be visbable like it is on the prototype, MBRP is making a fully finished bolt on exahust kit to match the Proglass rollpan.
Jonas
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lowdak
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1/12/2002
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I think it looks good, and probably is a good rollpan but I wouldn't buy it if you have more than a 3"-5" drop on your truck. You will drag the heck out of the exhuast tips. I have always prefered metal rollpans over urethane or fiberglass.
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Kota 360 R/T
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1/13/2002
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I like it Jonas. I would put it on my R/T. Any idea yet of how much the cost will be?
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Art
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1/13/2002
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It looks good but no spare tire sucks,think I
will stick with the MBRP dual rear split
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Jonas
Dodge Dakota
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1/14/2002
08:59:35
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Thanks for the feedback, and I understand that it isnt for everyone.. but just another option to the many that our out there.
Kota, the rollpan is being produced by proglass and the exhaust kit is being made by MBRP. I will be offering a special, "introductory buy" on them for the first 10 and the pricing will be very nice! Just drop me an email off list.
Jonas
sales@premier-autmotive.net
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Dodge Dakota
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1/14/2002
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would look bad a$$ with a porsche boxter
style tip out the rear! I dont know if its
possible, but I saw a new pontiac trans am
with a body kit and that style exhaust and it
looked sweet!
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graphitert
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1/15/2002
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Jonas, 2 things wrong there:
1)Forcing the customer to remove his spare. That being done he either has to put it in the bed(using up space there) or go without one altogether. Neither choice is acceptable for me(personal preference mind you).
2)Tips are mounted at the low point of the pan and your truck isn't even what I'd call that low. Guess what happens the first time you try to back into a driveway with any significant amount of incline? Yup. Flatten those babies right out. Angling only gets you around some of those obstacles. I used to rub the Cuda style proglass pan in the middle on occasion and you're taking away another couple of inches of clearance.
Center exit isn't my cuppa, but that's neither here nor there.
Bob
'01 Graphite CC R/T, Hotchkis, Bilsteins, CF Euro tails, clear corners, chrome emblems, Speed Grill inserts, CF dash
Soon: MP headers, SpinTech dual exhaust, MSD and full ignition upgrades, M1 intake, 52mm TB, IP Stage II cold air w/K&N airhat, flush tonneau, rear spoiler
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Jonas
Dodge Dakota
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1/15/2002
09:45:27
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Bob, its all form vs function.
If you look at it, most people who do rollpans generally use a tonneau cover too, and quite a few already put the spare in the back. Others (espically those in the city) put the rear tire under the tonneau to avoid theft. But your right some people wont want to remove the spare.
Actually that pan is built off of a proglass pan, but the license plate box is moved upward, and then the license plate box was also shortened. The truck is not "lowered" but it does have the stock R/T suspension on it. But yes, it you ran the pan with a 5-6 drop you would be dragging a$$ the whole way..
D, we actually have another guy looking into the cost of the boxter tips.. and/or you could always go to your local porsche shop and pick one up.. I think that may look cool too.
Those are a 3.5 inch tip, but if you wanted to use something smaller you could reduce the space from exhaust to ground.
Jonas
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graphitert
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1/15/2002
11:45:57
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Well, I just installed another Proglass over the weekend:
http://www.dnai.com/~bobm/images/pan_full3.JPG
Comparing that photo to yours, you'll see the overall height of the pan at the center is unchanged. To me, yours actually looks taller in the middle. The shortening you did was in the horizontal dimensions of the plate box. Not gonna help the clearance issue I'm afraid.
Have you tested this trying to back up into an incline? I assume you have the only proto. Stock height trucks are not going to be a problem, but Hotchkis lowered will be a concern.
Bob
'01 Graphite CC R/T, Hotchkis, Bilsteins, CF Euro tails, clear corners, chrome emblems, Speed Grill inserts, CF dash
Soon: MP headers, SpinTech dual exhaust, MSD and full ignition upgrades, M1 intake, 52mm TB, IP Stage II cold air w/K&N airhat, flush tonneau, rear spoiler
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Kota 360 R/T
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1/15/2002
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On a different note. What type of tonneau do you have on the truck in the pic Jonas?
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Dodge Dakota
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1/15/2002
21:59:45
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man, i like the proglass better, (no offense)
but for my 3-6 lowered dak, I dont think I would
be able to go up any driveway with the GTS
style rollpan. Is the proglass available without
the exhaust cut outs???? if so where, and
how much?
D
01/4.7/CC3.55/airaid/Dynomax3"/TBspacer/
JetStage2/DJMdrop3-6/pegleg :(
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graphitert
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1/15/2002
23:02:00
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They are both made by Proglass. Check with Jonas on availability of what you're looking for. They do make one without cutouts as well.
Bob
'01 Graphite CC R/T, Hotchkis, Bilsteins, CF Euro tails, clear corners, chrome emblems, Speed Grill inserts, CF dash
Soon: MP headers, SpinTech dual exhaust, MSD and full ignition upgrades, M1 intake, 52mm TB, IP Stage II cold air w/K&N airhat, flush tonneau, rear spoiler
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Dodge Dakota
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1/16/2002
02:09:58
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sweet, I was gonna go for the APC roll pan,
but the lines on the proglass are much
cleaner.
I like this one:
ww.dnai.com/~bobm/images/pan_full3.JPG
but with no exhaust cutouts.
Does anyone have a price?
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Jonas
Dodge Dakota
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1/16/2002
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D, drop me an email, Ill call Terry at Proglass tommorrow and see what we can do! Im sure ai can work something out for you. You ever consider the Cuda with the exhaust??
Email me.
Jonas Janek
Owner Premier Automotive
2811 Benton St.
Granite City, IL 62040
sales@premier-automotive.net
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Jonas
Dodge Dakota
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1/16/2002
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BTW, thats the Mopar tonneau cover, got it with the truck. It will be for sale shortly as Im going to get a flush cover.
Jonas
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Kota 360 R/T
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1/17/2002
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How much are you going to want for it Jonas? I would be very interested in buying it along with all of the other stuff I will be getting from you.
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Jonas
Dodge Dakota
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1/17/2002
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Bob, I wish I had got some measurements off it before I shipped it out.
Actually, the license plate box is just slightly raised on the top, but on the original proglass the plate has about 3/8 inch space at the top of it where the GTS does not (the plate is moved up, so that the exhaust can sit up into the rollpan more.
Overall the GTS pan probally sits right at the same vertical height as the regular proglass pan, with approximately 1.5 inches of tailpipe below it.
That setup was tested and driven on a stock R/T suspension and had no problems at all. I wish I could have tested it on a hotchkis but did not have one to do so on.
I would think you may be ok with hotchkis, but definately anything lower you have a good chance of scraping on.
Jonas
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graphitert
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1/17/2002
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"I would think you may be ok with hotchkis, but definately anything lower you have a good chance of scraping on."
My point was the Proglass pan scraped on the center section with the Hotchkis over moderate incline transitions. Severe transitions had to be avoided at all costs. You have taken out 1.5", by your own estimation, of clearance. Common sense says it will srape even more, but on your chromed tips instead of the bottom edge of a fiberglass pan. That's probably not desirable.
I point this out not to trash the product or design, just to alert people to the issues they will have to contend with. Much easier to consider them before they have it installed than to be fielding phone calls from irate customers who were told clearance was not an issue. Lowered trucks almost always have clearance issues of one type or another. Comes with the territory.
Bob
'01 Graphite CC R/T, Hotchkis, Bilsteins, CF Euro tails, clear corners, chrome emblems, Speed Grill inserts, CF dash
Soon: MP headers, SpinTech dual exhaust, MSD and full ignition upgrades, M1 intake, 52mm TB, IP Stage II cold air w/K&N airhat, flush tonneau, rear spoiler
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Jonas
Dodge Dakota
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1/17/2002
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Bob, I understood your point..
Thanks for the comments and for the help!
Jonas
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Crusty
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1/18/2002
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I want one, I have a 4x4 and my new spare wont fit anyways (too large). So one question can I use the hidden hitch idea?
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Jonas
Dodge Dakota
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1/21/2002
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You can modify the license plate box for the hidden hitch. (additional parts .. the hidden hithc and flip kit.. needed).
Jonas
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Bryan
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1/21/2002
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I like it, it follows the body lines pretty good.
As far as the tips go, well diffrent people like diffrent things. If everybody liked the same thing, we all would be driving Dak's. I think it should sell well with the low riders. ( just my opinion )
Have you thought of making the same style pan with diffrent exhaust openings? Also, anything to fit the GEN 2 Dak's?
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Jonas
Dodge Dakota
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7/11/2002
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FINALLY IN PRODUCTION:
Just an update: We finally got the rollpan and the exhaust into production. The exhaust was finished with the help of Kevin Osborn by MBRP and was completely re-done. The finished product is a MBRP full T-304 stainless mandrel bent catback system with their single-in dual out 20" stainless oval muffler, and two intercooled stainless tips. The rollpan was finished out and is produced by profinish-proglass (same maker as the cuda, the shaker hood, etc). The rollpan comes complete with a recessed flat panel license plate light.
I have the full kit on my truck now, but wont have painted pics available till tuesday (7-16-02).
WE are going to do a intorductory buy on these if anyone is interested..
Also in response to the lowered question.. I now have hotchkis on the company truck, and had no problem with some pretty steep inclines.. Im going to measure some angles.. but really unless your extremely low.. it shouldnt be an issue.
Jonas
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graphiteRT
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7/11/2002
18:24:33
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Jonas, yours is with a 29" dia tire and no added blocks with the Hotchkis. That must be taken into consideration as well, since a significant percentage of people add blocks in addition to the Hotchkis.
A 275/35/20 tire and a 1" block to level the rear and you lose 1.6+" of clearance. Doesn't make it a deal killer. Just another data point.
Bob
'01 Graphite CC R/T, MP headers, Magnaflow muffler into 'Cuda style exhaust, M1 2bbl, ported 2.02 R/T heads, custom grind cam, Crower SS rockers, ATI Procharger at 5 psi, Boyd's 20s w/Dunlop SP9000s
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