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jim
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3/14/2006
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anyone try the clear/crome aftermarket headlights like this yet???
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/97-98-99-00-01-02-03-DODGE-DAKOTA-EURO-1PC-HEADLIGHT-C_W0QQitemZ8046853773QQcategoryZ33710QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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3/14/2006
13:53:26
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Unless they're DOT approved, don't buy them.
By law, There's supposed to be an amber reflector up front.
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jim
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3/14/2006
23:19:47
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not so worried about that, im questioning the quality of them i guess. ill take the ticket to look good!
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Johnny Law
Dodge Dakota
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3/17/2006
14:41:47
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follow the advice of the previous post. heres why. you may look cool rollin with your clear corners and all that, but if i see them, i'm gonna write you. not only that, but i'm going to snoop for more offenses if youre a dick to me. and that could get very very expensive. my advice to you is to not draw attention and youll be just fine. i'll be watchin for you!
btw, ive heard those ebay lenses are ok, but illegal in some states.
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jim
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3/18/2006
23:48:07
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johnny....you a new jack, sounds to me like you let your badge go to your head, ya know sometimes goin after someone is the right thing, sometimes its not, dont let your ego get in front of your feet, been on the job myself for about 10 years now, im acually hopin these headlights help to see driving at night a little, so im guessin maybe your fresh out of the academy or someting, youll see in time gung ho isnt alwayt the way, hope this helps you in the future, you may be the cop but you also represent your community, so whether im a dick to you or not, you dont want to be known as a dick in the community, it wont help you when your testifying in court....good luck
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Forseti
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3/19/2006
16:08:35
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get clear corners and put a amber bulb in it ... then the cops cant say anyting to you
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Johnny Law
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3/19/2006
23:07:04
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Forseti, I've heard that 1001 times by guys who think they know it all. Bulbs and reflectors are entirely TWO DIFFERENT things. Bulbs are refered to as "lit" or "lighted" devices, reflectors are just that. A light reflector. Light bulbs DO NOT reflect light. The "required color" refered to in the V.C. are what the vehicle was "originally equipped" with whether it be white or amber/yellow.
per Cali V.C.reference http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc25950.htm
Color of Lamps and Reflectors
25950. This section applies to the color of lamps and to any reflector exhibiting or reflecting perceptible light of 0.05 candela or more per foot-candle of incident illumination. Unless provided otherwise, the color of lamps and reflectors upon a vehicle shall be as follows:
(a) The emitted light from all lamps and the reflected light from all reflectors, visible from in front of a vehicle, shall be white or yellow, except as follows:
(1) Rear side marker lamps required by Section 25100 may show red to the front.
(2) The color of foglamps described in Section 24403 may be in the color spectrum from white to yellow.
(3) An illuminating device, as permitted under Section 24255, shall emit radiation predominantly in the infrared region of the electromagnetic spectrum. Any incidental visible light projecting to the front of the vehicle shall be predominantly yellow to white. Any incidental visible light projecting to the rear of the vehicle shall be predominantly red. Any incidental visible light from an illuminating device, as permitted under Section 24255, shall not resemble any other required or permitted lighting device or official traffic control device.
(b) The emitted light from all lamps and the reflected light from all reflectors, visible from the rear of a vehicle, shall be red except as follows:
(1) Stoplamps on vehicles manufactured before January 1, 1979, may show yellow to the rear.
(2) Turn signal lamps may show yellow to the rear.
(3) Front side marker lamps required by Section 25100 may show yellow to the rear.
(4) Backup lamps shall show white to the rear.
(5) The rearward facing portion of a front-mounted double-faced turn signal lamp may show amber to the rear while the headlamps or parking lamps are lighted, if the intensity of the light emitted is not greater than the parking lamps and the turn signal function is not impaired.
(6) A reflector meeting the requirements of and installed in accordance with Section 24611 shall be red or white, or both.
(c) All lamps and reflectors visible from the front, sides, or rear of a vehicle, except headlamps, may have any unlighted color, provided the emitted light from all lamps or reflected light from all reflectors complies with the required color. Except for backup lamps, the entire effective projected luminous area of lamps visible from the rear or mounted on the sides near the rear of a vehicle shall be covered by an inner lens of the required color when the unlighted color differs from the required emitted light color. Taillamps, stoplamps, and turn signal lamps that are visible to the rear may be white when unlighted on vehicles manufactured before January 1, 1974.
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3/20/2006
13:56:40
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Yep. And in Washington state, we have this:
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=46.37.100
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wahrsuul
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3/21/2006
09:38:10
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Maybe it's me, but I don't see where it says anything about having (required) to have a reflector up front.
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Lurkin
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3/21/2006
10:18:43
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The requirements for lights, reflectors and the colors of those parts are state laws, for the most part. In other words, the laws may differ between states.
For clear corners, "most" states require an amber or white color light, and an amber reflector on the front corner somewhere.
Personally, I run clear corners, with amber bulbs painted silver (shine amber though), and no reflector.
Note that two reflectors were included with my clear corners, but there were no instructions and documentation on where/when they needed to be applied. At first I didn't have a clue as to why they were included, but after a bit of research I found out. If I were to apply the reflectors, I'd just glue 'em to the corner of the clear corners.
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Johnny Law
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3/21/2006
11:04:16
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Lurkin, good point! Let the record show that when a state "requires" that you have either a white or amber reflector at the front/side of the vehicle, that a "stick on", "adhesive" or "bolt on" type reflector is acceptable as long as it meets the color requirement that the vehicle "originally" was equipped with, is positioned correctly, and can be visible from the side.
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3/21/2006
13:48:11
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What's the point?
You're spending a lot of money to put on clear lenses to get rid of the amber ones, only to have to stick on an amber reflector somewhere up front to stay street legal.
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Johnny Law
Dodge Dakota
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3/21/2006
18:52:01
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the point is jim didn't say what state he lives in. if he does live in a state that requires the amber reflectors, several people chimed in (including me) to advise him this clear corner is illegal. that's all!
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Scott C.
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3/21/2006
20:43:20
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go figure someone on this forum had to be a one of those prick cops... i have those lights with diamond clear lense but there not the one peice setup, there 2 peice setup perside... headlight and corner lights... sence there not DOT apporeved the quaily of them is not the greatest when i got mine they kept getting foggy due to moisture... drilled 2 holes in the backside fog free now for 4 years and still diamond clear lens... and no cop trouble ethier. ya put the amber bulbs in and from a distance you really cant tell..
Scott C.
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jim
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3/21/2006
23:56:09
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i live in ny, i never guessed that i would start this long of a discussion with my question, i just like the look of the diamond headlights and think that you may acually be able to see better at night with them, i would put in amber bulbs to keep as close to the law as i can, but johnny you did come off as kinda of a prick when you ansewered me, i could understand me getting a ticket if my illegal parts caused an accident or something, but for you to be on the lookout kinda gives me the feeling that you would write your own mother but your right the law is the law, i know. but then again there is community relations in our jobs too.....someone you piss off may be a friend of the guy who signs your check, or determines your shift and pass days and or post orders!!!!!
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Johnny Law
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3/22/2006
00:25:33
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jim, you drew first blood with your "ill take the ticket to look good" comment. that's pretty much calling me out. Yes?
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jim
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3/22/2006
07:51:09
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what do you want me to say, "i work in law enforcement so i can get away with anything that i want cuz i have a badge" im more modest than that, if someone wants to write me (which i know wont happen) then go ahead. i wouldent write my mother though!
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Lurkin
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3/22/2006
09:01:14
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Gents, if you want the clear corner look without the yellow bulb being seen, and retaining some level of legality. Take a set of amber bulbs, tape off the connector part, and give it a light coat of silver/aluminum engine paint. When lit up, they still show amber, but when off, they match the clear corner.
I did this 2 1/2 years ago, and they are still silver when off, and show amber when lit. Use engine paint though so it can take the heat.
This is much, much cheaper than, and has the same effect as, the expense chromed bulbs.
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jim
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3/22/2006
18:59:44
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hmmmmmmm what can i think of next??? ha
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ucimaplaya2
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4/04/2006
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I live in FL and im pretty sure clear corners without an orange reflector are illegal. I have had my set on for about a year and a half (with amber bulbs) and still have not got a ticket for them although I have been pulled over for other reasons. A friend on mine has a mustang with clear corners and a white reflector like mine. She had white bulbs in it and HIDs for headlights. They gave her a ticket for not having amber bulbs, gave her a hard time about her HIDs looking blue (they are more purple actually so that was funny)but didn't give her a ticket for them, but most importantly they did not say a word about not having amber reflectors. Why because they probably have enough common sense to know that there is no safety issue by not having an amber reflector when a white reflector is so much brighter anyway. The idea of the reflectors is so that the vehicle can be seen at night when there are no lights on, and guess what you can see white much further away anyway.
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01 R/T
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4/04/2006
07:35:47
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IF anyone takes a second to look at their OEM headlight assy. you'll notice that there's not an orange reflector on the corner's. I've gone to clear corners and have had no problems law wise. Personnely I like the 1pcs, I think they look cleaner than the 2pcs. So I say get 'em with amber bulbs and you'll be fine and look good doin' it'! Plus with some new Sylvania bulbs you will get a cleaner, whiter light. My $.02 anyway.
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