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SolarDakRT
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8/25/2003
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Hey, I just got my Nu Image gauges and was wondering if you have any tips to help me put them on. I appreciate any info.
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Matt
Dodge Dakota
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8/25/2003
20:34:16
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Hey, I'm not Sincity but I have those Nu Image White Face Gauges with Flames. Its pretty simple to put them on. First, you gotta take out the cluster. Then you need to remove all of your needles gently with a fork or the tool that came with the gauges.
Then, peel off the factory gauge face and stick the Nu Image on. Make sure you have it lined up properly before you stick it on, hehe. Then you put the needles back on. But when putting them back on, make sure you know where every needle sits when the truck is cold and hasnt warmed up. Then, when you put the needles back on, make sure they are on tight but not too tight. They wont function properly if installed too tight.
And to check the needles, turn your truck off, hold the button by the milage down for 3-5 seconds, then while still holding down, turn the ignition to the battery but not started up. The milage shouls say "check". When it does that, the tach goes to 3000rpm (and the speedo goes to 20mph) and then to 6000rpm (while the speedo goes to 60mph). This lets you know if ur needles are accurate. Hope this helped,
-Matt
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Matt
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8/25/2003
20:40:34
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Actually if you check the needles, the RPM guage goes to 1000RPM and the speedometer goes to 20mph. Then the RPM gauge goes to 3000RPM while the speedometer goes to 60mph. Then the RPM goes to 6000RPM and the speedometer goes to 120MPH. Sorry for the screw up.
-Matt
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SolarDakRT
Dodge Dakota
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8/26/2003
00:22:23
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I appretiate the info Matt. Just one question though. Can you do it with the engine turned off, and just take note of the location of the needles, or does it need to be started for better accuracy.
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SinCity R/T
Dodge Dakota
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8/26/2003
02:03:22
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It's best if you start the truck and let it settle down to a smooth idle, then take a digital picture or mark down on a piece of paper which way the needles should face.
The easy part of the install is tearing apart the dash and putting it back together... There's only a couple of screws below the steering wheel and on newer models a couple of screws just above the gauge cluster. Pull the dash out by hand, and disconnect the 3-4 wiring connectors. The gauge cluster is held in by just a few screws, easy to spot - pull the cluster out and you're home free.
Be careful and use the tool provided to slip the needles off, the pegs are just thin metal pins and can be bent/broken easily. The factory gauge face is just a big thick plastic sticker, catch an edge and rip it right off.
Push the needles on gently... If you don't push them on far enough, the needle will slip on the peg when it turns... If you push it too far it will catch against the face and hang up.
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Matt
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8/26/2003
07:23:24
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Yea Sincity is right. You don't want then on too tight. At first when I put my needles on, I noticed that some of them wouldn't move because they were on too tight. And sorry, I forgot to mention, The engine has to be started when you put the needles on. One of the employees from Nu Image told me that if you put them on when its not started, they just reset when you start it up and won't function. So leave it started and going and put them on. Hope this helps...
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Lurkin
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8/26/2003
11:23:43
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A couple more points that Matt/SinCity didn't mention or didn't have to deal with. When the original gauge face is pulled off, mine had some foam templates that lined the idiot light area (to keep light from bleeding I imagine). I had to take a razor blade and remove that foam, which is glued reasonably well and very thin, and put it on the new guage face. This was kind of a pain.
One other item which Matt and SinCity already stated, but I would recommend the following concerning needle placement.
1) write down the needle placement with the engine warm and idling
2) [optional] also write down the needle placement for the "sweep" test that Matt outlined above
3) after the face is installed, start the truck and let it warm up
4) place the needles according to #1 above
5) drive and double check that the guages read as normal
6) [optional] re-run the sweep test to validate placement
Note that I just did the sweep test and wrote down the needle placements, then after installing the face I initally placed the needles with the key on and the engine dead. I then adjusted the needles by running the sweep test then moving the needles as necessary. But this wasn't quite right, due to the guage face not "perfectly" lining up with the original. Both my fuel and temp guages read too high (according to where I knew they should normally be), so I had to adjust them down some.
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SolarDakRT
Dodge Dakota
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8/26/2003
20:18:48
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Hey guys, thanks for the help. I'll definitely have an easier time putting these on. I can't wait to see how it turns out.
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Chris
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9/01/2003
02:56:04
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I have a 2000 SLT that reads 6000 rpm. I have the white faced reversible glo gauges, but I didn't get the tool to remove the needles with the gauges. I just wondered if there is a site I could go to, to get the removal tool?
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SinCity R/T
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9/02/2003
00:51:31
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Just use a fork... slip the tines around the needle and pull outward gently.
- Steve
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Clutch
Dodge Dakota
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9/06/2003
20:08:20
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I just bought the nuimage guage panel, but I noticed an issue. I've got a 2000 SLT too, but my tach goes to 7000. Also, some of the idiot guages are different. I looked at the 2001 panel, it goes to 7000, but all the other guages are different. Any thoughts on why my dash is goofy and what I can do about it???
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SinCity R/T
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9/06/2003
23:21:01
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A small percentage of 2000 model trucks got 7000rpm tachometers. For these vehicles you can't use the regular 1997-2000 gauge faces because they only have 6000rpm tachs, and the 2001-2003 faces are different. There's only one company I've seen who makes a year 2000 7000rpm tach gauge face, they pop up on E-Bay every now and again - I don't know how what sort of feedback to give because it's a generic face.
- Steve
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Clutch
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9/07/2003
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Does it really matter as long as I know that is different? I mean I will know that 6000 is 7000 and 4000 is about 4500. Another thought was what about changing to a 6000 range tach. Can I just change it at the instument cluster? Or would it require more modifications? I'm talking about taking the 6000 range tach out of a factory dak cluster.
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SinCity R/T
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9/07/2003
14:09:36
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I'm not sure what's involved with a tach swap but the gauge face itself is structured the same other than the 6000/7000rpm tach differences.
- Steve
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Clutch
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9/08/2003
00:17:56
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Got one more question for you. Do you know if the cluster size is the same between 2000 and 2001+? I've been looking at the pics and the guages are in the same locations, just with no numbers. I believe I am correct in assuming that when you remove the panel to replace it all that's behind it is the lights so it does not matter if the symbols are different on the guage face, right? Let me know what you know. Thanks.
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