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IdahoRT
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8/15/2002
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I'm considering buying the 2 or 3" Performance Accessories bodylift that seems to be quite popular around here.
My questions are about the install: how long does it take? how difficult is it? any special tools required? is it a do it yourself, or shop only?
TIA
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Torque
Dodge Dakota
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8/18/2002
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I think it's a DIY. I used combo wrenchs, sockets, screw driver, knife, the jack that came with my truck, and six pack of beer. Took around 4-5 hours. I read the instructions 4 or 5 times prior to starting, so I pretty much knew how to do it without having to read while I did it.
3" PA lift on my 2001 CC 4x4.
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michigandak
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8/19/2002
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Hiyas,
I did the same PA 3" body lift about a month ago now. After you put the GapGuards in (sold separately), it looks good - and you'll feel it's worth it.
Do you have a 4x4? Manual or auto? That'll help me target the toughness of it. I'm no expert, but I asked around just as you're doing now - and it helped me a ton. Took me and my friend about 7 hours, because I have a hitch in the back - it was a bit problematic.
-Dan
I cap my Dak.
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joey
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8/19/2002
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i'm 19 years old and ain't the smartest when it comes to knowing about cars/trucks and i got it put on in about 5-6 hours, just follow the instructions step by step and be patient make sure you do everything right. i also put the gap guards to give it that nice clean look, i'd say it was well worth it and if i can do it i think anyone can.....
-joey
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Torque
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8/19/2002
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Oh forgot to mention, that 4-5 hours was just the lift, the gap gaurds took me about 2 additional hours (installed about a week after lift) because I used bolts for the rear ones and fastened them to the inside of the lip, rather than on the outside. Looks much better IMO.
Pics are here:
http://www.coloradodesigns.com/truck/front_gg.jpg
http://www.coloradodesigns.com/truck/front_gg_flash.jpg (flash on)
http://www.coloradodesigns.com/truck/rear_gg.jpg
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scott
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8/19/2002
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Torque,
I did the same thing on my QC. The lift only took 4 hrs. from start to finish (including eating lunch).The gap guards only took a half hour or so to put on and I also put them on from the backside , you don`t even notice them.
Oh yea , when we did my lift a had a lift and two friends that did most of the work! It was very easy to do though. I thought the hardest thing was trying to figure out the instructions!
BTW , how can I post a pic. of my newly lifted truck here , other than sending a pic. to go in the viewers rides section? My previous Dakota is there and it took a long time to get the photo up on the site.
Thanks, Scott
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michigandak
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8/19/2002
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Scott, how did you get access to a lift? Auto shop or something?
The lift would make things a LOT easier. But no one has said what they worked on - 2x4, 4x4, auto, manual. The instructions said wielding had to be done with the manual and possibly 4x4.
I'm curious if that is a pain - for when I do eventually by a 4x4.
-Dan
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Torque
Dodge Dakota
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8/19/2002
23:32:26
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I did my lift by myself and with the scissor jack that came with my truck! haha Tried using my floor jack but when I'd lift the body, the body would move one way or another to compensate for the jack moving up. I just used blocks of wood and the jack and it took really no time to lift each side.
Scott, you can create your own album and post your pics on my Dodge Trucks Photo album:
http://www.coloradodesigns.com/lan
Then link to them from there. Let me know if you need help.
My truck is a 2001 CC 4x4 5spd.
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scott
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8/20/2002
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michigandak,
A great friend of mine has a garage that is probably...3-4000 maybe more sq. feet , yes this is not a typo. It`s equipped with a lift inside , so we decided to do it there. No brainer really , it was either that or the hard way. All my friends are into big trucks , and have done many lifts , both susp. and body , so that also helped a bunch. While I`m checking out the instruction book , they are half done , doh!
Oh by the way , mine is an 02 QC 4X4 SLT auto. with the electronic transfer case that has a switch , instead of a shifter , good and bad I guess. I does make it easier to lift though , one less thing to worry about.
Torque,
Thanks for the help , as soon as I get a new cable to connect my camera to the computer (ask the dog about it!) I`ll get those pics. to you , and yes I`ll probably need some more help.
Thanks again,
Scott
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michigandak
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8/20/2002
15:48:28
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Woot, thanks for the info Scott.
I was worried doing a lift on a 4x4 Auto was a bit more trickier. Least I have something to look forward to in about 2 years. (when I buy another finally. Dodge forever for me.)
-Dan
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Rowdy
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8/22/2002
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Yeah the body lift is pretty well explains it self while lookin at the parts, I put one on my first truck a ranger when i was 16 and then last year i put one on my friends 99 dakota, it was a breeze took a couple of hours, I'll tell ya a trick if you have nurf bars on your truck that are attached to your body its a really easy if you can get your hands on about four jacks and you can lift the whole cab off at once, and the bed just pick it up. one more thing you might watch is that we had some trouble gettin the bed and cab straight with each other again.
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Rowdy
Dodge Dakota
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8/22/2002
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I do have one question, for yall that did a 3 inch body lift, see i'm doin a suspension lift here soon just dont have all the funds right now, but i'm in bad shape with my tires and need new ones so i'm wantin to go ahead and put a body lift on for now so i can fit bigger tires. i was wonderin what size tire yall use for your 3 inch body lift, i want to run a 33X12.50 cause i'm gonna be runnin a 5 1/2 suspension later. is it possible i've heard of people doin it but just wanted to check
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scott
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8/22/2002
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It depends on the rim you use...how wide and the backspacing. At most with an 8in. wheel all you might need to do is a little trimming on the front valance.
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Rowdy
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8/22/2002
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Well i was thinkin of runnin a 15x10 but i'm having trouble finding a rim for my truck, no body seems to make them for my truck, but i'll do about anything if i could run a 33x12.50 cause i want a tire that will look right when i get my 5 1/2 lift. I figured i'd keep back spacin the same as my stock wheel.
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Travis
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8/28/2002
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Well fellas, I am glad to have read this post, I am going to be starting my lift this evening. Hopefully I can do a 5-6 hour lift. About the hitch, I was thinking about that last night, what can you do for it so it does not stick down like most Chevy's you see with a body lift. Also do the Gap Guuards come with the screws or clips to keep them in, or are they more? Has anyone actually welded the over loads in and the 4X4 shift extension in? Thanks a lot.
Travis
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Dakota
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8/28/2002
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REKER
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8/29/2002
08:19:02
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Ok, well, im going to buy my lift next paycheck!! FINALLY!!.. haha.. its all good, ive only had the truck for a month!!... But anyways, what i want to know is, I have a 2000 Club Cab Auto 4X4 and a hitch.
1. Am i going to have to weld anything??.. i heard that i have to weld on the 4X4 Extension???.. is that true??
2. Also, since mine is an Auto, is it going to cause me any problems on the install??
3. Is my Hitch going to cause any complications on the install??
4. Anyone have their Instructions for a 2000 CC 4X4 Auto that they wouldnt mind getting rid of??
Thankyou in advance
ROB aka REKER
2000 Intense Blue Club Cab
fully loaded
4.7L V8 Auto 4X4
3.55 Gears
Mods to Come:
3" PA Body Lift, 33" ProComp Xterrains mounted on Eagle Alloy 589s, Dual Flowmaster Exhaust, Custom Intake, Clear Corners, Carbon Fiber Altezzas, Custom Painted Dash
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4wDakota
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8/29/2002
09:21:20
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If you have a floor shifter then pop off the plug at the top of the handle and unscrew the nut holding it on. Go to Home Depot or other hardware store and get some all-thread and coupling nut and make an extension. It's a lot easier than the welding.
The auto makes it real easy. It works off of a cable so you just make sure the cable isn't in a bad position. They have plenty of slack though.
Your hitch won't be a problem. It actually made mine easier because I used the mounting point for the hitch to remount my bumper.
I have 98 instructions. Drop me an email with a fax number. You can also contact Performance Acces. and get them to fax a copy.
Corey
98 CC 4x4, 5.2 Auto 3.55LSD
3" Body Lift, 1" Torsion Bar Lift, 33" BFG A/T KO's
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REKER
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8/29/2002
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Do u think the instructions are the same for a 2000 application??
ROB aka REKER
2000 Intense Blue Club Cab
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4.7L V8 Auto 4X4
3.55 Gears
Mods to Come:
3" PA Body Lift, 33" ProComp Xterrains mounted on Eagle Alloy 589s, Dual Flowmaster Exhaust, Custom Intake, Clear Corners, Carbon Fiber Altezzas, Custom Painted Dash
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Travis
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8/29/2002
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Well it is done, will get some pics(Clear Ones) when I wash this afternoon. It took about 4 and a half hours last night, but I have to still put in the Transfercase bracket and the bracket for the transmission loop. Did you guys install the overloads on the frame under the bed? And I also notice that there was only one bracket for the brake junction. Has any of you made a second bracket for the back end of that brake junction? But I am really happy with the looks of my truck. The stearing is still like stock, I heard people complaining about slop in the wheel, maybe it was not done right I guess. Now I am going to have to buy some nerf bars to cover up the frame. Although it looks alot better then those Chevy's with the frame three ten inches bellow the body after they lift them. Thanks for the input!
Travis
Reker-As for the directions, they are not the same for the 2000 Dak. The shifter goes up with the body, the linkage under the truck going to the transfer case is about 5 inches long, you have to put in extension in there, cut it in half and weld it in. I found the directions suck. They are geared for an older Dak. The pics from the direction all say 1998 on them. Like the steering shaft did not have to come out like the directions say, you can just take out the bolt at the top closest to the cab and slip it off from the stearing column, you'll see what I mean when you get to it. But in all it was very easy and quick. Also I have 589's with 32's and they rub in the front still. Just barely, so you might not want 33's. Something to think about. Good luck to you.
00,CC,SLT,4.7,Auto,4X4
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mickw82
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10/19/2002
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i heard rumor you have to cut all your grounds and extend them?... this true?.. i gotta 2000 2wd and wanna lil more clearance.. soo i been doin a lil reading from you experienced people and sounds do-able for my truck.. but the rumor about cutting and extending grounds bothers me ? true/false?
Mick
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Dan Gruber
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10/19/2002
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unhook the grounds from the firewall, then re-attach them after the lift. I had one ground strap that wasn't quite long enough to reach the original bolt, but Dodge thoughfully provided another bolt that wasn't doing anything closer to where I needed it.
And the shifter design is different from 97-99 and 2000. The 2000 4X4 floor shifter is mounted to the body with linkage going to the transfer case, so the linkage has to be extended, not the shifter itself. 97-99 shifter is attached directly to the trasfer case, so the shifter needs to be extended.
Dan
2000 CC SLT 4.7 4X4 Auto 3.92 LSD
3 inch Performance Accesories lift & 32 inch BFG MT KM's
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dodgesalesguy
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10/30/2002
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so on a 2000 dak the 4x4 shifter HAS to be welded? or can you use all-thread on this part also?
doing lift on sunday. buying tools today :)
freddo
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DakotaDucati
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4/01/2003
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Personally, I wouldn't touch a Performance Accessory product. A friend and I installed one on a Toyota and the plastic radiator brackets snapped. When I called and complained, hoping they'd replace them, I was basically told that we should have paid someone to do it and that I'd have to return the whole kit! We weren't about to remove it from the truck, so we went to a neighbor with welding equipment and had him make some durable brackets. That was the last time I'd buy or endorse their crap. I've heard that they copied their gap guards from www.liftlips.com and went to court over it. Watch out who you deal with!
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joey
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4/02/2003
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i had a PA lif ton my ranger...and a pa lift on my dak...can't say they are the most durable lifts for offroading but when u need that tire clearance and good looks they do the job....they hold up never had problems with installing or anything....
-joey
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ian
Dodge Dakota
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4/02/2003
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"Personally, I wouldn't touch a Performance Accessory product. A friend and I installed one on a Toyota and the plastic radiator brackets snapped. When I called and complained, hoping they'd replace them, I was basically told that we should have paid someone to do it and that I'd have to return the whole kit! We weren't about to remove it from the truck, so we went to a neighbor with welding equipment and had him make some durable brackets. That was the last time I'd buy or endorse their crap. I've heard that they copied their gap guards from www.liftlips.com and went to court over it. Watch out who you deal with!"
well it's a good thing you brought up those pesky radiator mounts because the dakotas lift uses the stock ones. i've spoken with PA several times and they were very helpful. out of all the body lifts out there, the PA is the best. also, PA doesn't make their own gap guards, they sell lift lip's.
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A.J.
Dodge Dakota
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4/02/2003
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Im gettin the PA 3in. lift with 33x12.50's and im still not sure what to do with the gear situation. I have the 3.55's right now. BUt i dont know if i should change them. I do tow stuff once and a while. I dont do a whole lot of off roading. What should I do? If i do change them, where do you get them. Do you just take it to the dealer? Any help would be cool.
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