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Chaximus
Dodge Dakota
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6/21/2002
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Yo guys, i just completed the 3 inch fabtech lift, plus PA's 3 inch body, along with a 2 inch rear shackle lift to level it out. Hey tallquad, you got a brother now :)
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Brent88
Dodge Dakota
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6/21/2002
19:14:30
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oh sh!t man lets see some pics
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TallQuad
Dodge Dakota
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6/21/2002
20:15:33
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Well then... welcome to the family!
Lets see some pics!! BTW, 2" in the rear... doesn't that rake up the rear too much? I think mine is pretty level (measurements are equal) but it looks low in the rear for some reason. I gotta see how yours looks.
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Chaximus
Dodge Dakota
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6/22/2002
11:35:35
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The reason i added 2 inch shackles in the rear was cuz the fabtech was only 1.5 in the rear, and 3 up front. So it was laggin back there a little, so i added the 2 incher to level it out, now it's about .5 inch higher in the rear, but loooooks GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD. Email me and i'll get ya some pix.
cmh7456@osfmail.rit.edu
if i get more replies for pix, ill post em on the web. Let me know.
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bjlindsey
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6/22/2002
19:46:24
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Let's see em!!!!
01 QC 4x4 5.9L 3.92 LSD
3" Body Lift, 305/70-R16 XTerrains,
K&N clone, Clear Corners, Carbon Fiber Tails,
www.FreeGasForYou.com
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Chaximus
Dodge Dakota
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6/22/2002
22:25:06
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http://www.rit.edu/~cmh7456/4x2andfriends/Dakota/
enjoy you guys....the first set of pix are the actual body lift...while the last few are at my off-road club's truck show, we ramped the rigs. (www.mudnuts.org)
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Jeff
Dodge Dakota
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6/23/2002
21:30:04
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Hey Chaximus, dude you gotta tell me where you got that sticker on the tailgate? The 4x2 off road! I gotta get one! BTW, the truck looks great!
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Chaximus
Dodge Dakota
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6/23/2002
22:33:22
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I just took a picture of a dodge ram's decal..the ones with the 4x4 off road decal on the tailgate. I asked a decal shop to change the 4 to a 2, and worked out great. Looks like it came from the factory. I always see people through my rear view mirror talking about it and pointing at it.
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4wDakota
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6/24/2002
13:41:45
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Nice truck
How do you like the dueler MT's?
Noisy?
Corey
98 CC 4x4, 5.2 Auto 3.55LSD
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Chaximus
Dodge Dakota
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6/24/2002
16:30:52
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They aren't that noisy. They whistle a little at high speeds, but they are great overall. I drove them for nearly 9k miles, and the tread is still like new. They are long lasting according to my research. Unfortunately, i want to sell them and go 32 or 33's.
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TallQuad
Dodge Dakota
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6/24/2002
23:18:49
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Looks awesome! I've always wanted to see how a lifted "copper" color dak looked. I think the bigger tires will really make the truck stand out once you get 'em.
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Andrew
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8/19/2002
12:14:29
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is this just a 2" body lift because im thinking about going with a 3" body and a 3" suspension on my 2000 and was wondering how it would look.
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arthur
Dodge Dakota
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8/19/2002
14:05:33
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No, it's the 3" PA body lift.
I believe TallQuad has the set-up your looking at.
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Chaximus
Dodge Dakota
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8/19/2002
16:01:16
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I got it too. 3 inch PA.
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Chris
Dodge Dakota
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8/19/2002
16:07:27
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isnt it a 6" lift since its 3" of body and 3" of suspension lift in the front and in the rear 3"body, 1.5" add a leaf, and 2" shackle. Some big ass tires will look sweet.
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Chaximus
Dodge Dakota
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8/19/2002
19:16:24
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Yeah it's actually 6, but i just tend to follow the title, if it says 3 inch body, 3 inch susp, and 2 inch shackle, that's 8 ;) 31 inch bfg's mudders look great! It's got goo all over it from a recent trail ride and it looks sweet ;)
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dweishaar
GenIII
8/21/2002
01:50:50
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dun..dun..dun....another one bites the dust. sorry to hear about all these body lifts. i know you guys are happy, hell, i would be too if my truck was that tall, but you've forgotten one important thing.......is your truck happy? probably not
One Eyed Fox
THE BODYLIFT HATER
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Fred
Dodge Dakota
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8/21/2002
01:58:05
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Dweishaar, i personally dont think you know much. cuz you said in another post that you have a fabtech 3in lift with 33s. no way in hell you can fit 33s with a 3in lift on your 4x2. why do people write useless posts and take up space?
sorry, i personally dont have a lift yet, but i will indeed get a 3in fabtech and 3in body
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dweishaar
GenIII
8/21/2002
08:01:23
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i'll post pictures today. i've written in other posts.....i had to do major trimming, and if you read my profile, i also have 4.5 inch fiberglass in front. i don't lie.
One Eyed Fox
THE BODYLIFT HATER
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arthur
Dodge Dakota
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8/21/2002
20:20:58
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Dweishaar...i gotta admit...i felt the same way you did about body lifts when i first found this site. I had just bought my 2002 4X4 dakota and went to a local 4 wheel shop and asked them if they could throw a suspension lift onto my truck...when they told me no lift was available and that all i could get was a 3" body lift...i about flipped out and traded my truck back in for a Ford Ranger. I hated the idea of 3" of body being shown under my truck.
Then i found this site...i started listening to guys that had the body lifts and heard some opposing arguments. I then went 4 wheeling with 2 dakota owners with the 3" body lift and must admit they performed very well. I decided to do my own research...something you might want to think about doing before acting all high and mighty.
The SUSPENISON lift for the rear of most trucks uses BLOCKS. The 3" BODY LIFT for the rear uses BLOCKS...just in a different spot. I.E. same overall performance from the suspension lift as body lift when it comes to the rear. Only way to get better flex and droop in rear is to add-a-leaf or get completely new leaf springs...the latter being best for performance and also quite expensive for our trucks.
The front suspension keeps all suspension geometry in a suspension lifted truck as a stock or body lifted truck because of the wonderful IFS front that the 4WD has. I.E. same amount of travel and articulation with suspension lift as body lift (talking about the new rack and pinion lift from our favorite Truckin), so even if you get a suspension lift...no real gains in performance for the front either.
Then only gain you get is the ability to run bigger tires and have a stiffer ride...which if I'm not mistaken can be achieved with a body lift and new shocks for a fraction of a suspension lift.
So all i'm saying is that it's fine you don't like body lifts...it's fine that you won't put one on...i personally will pass on them also...but i'm not a jerk about it, most the guys on this site that have been around a long time and that are the people to talk to when your truck is broken have body lifts and are very happy with them. We are all dakota owners...no reason to make enemies with guys and gals that could be your friends.
Personally i like the phrase..."if you can't say anything nice...don't say anything at all!"
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rivermaniac
Dodge Dakota
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8/21/2002
20:31:48
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so why are you saying anything ????? Is what you're saying nice ?????? I don't like body lifts also , I'm not saying some trucks look good with them , but not for me at least not yeat ...................
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Chaximus
Dodge Dakota
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8/21/2002
22:05:40
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What's the big argument. It's a body lift....it's matter that takes up space...that's called MASS. It's an object....nothing to argue about. Who cares...just use it if u like, don't use it if you don't...simple does it...save the words for more important posts ;)
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darrell
Dodge Dakota
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8/21/2002
23:24:20
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hey Chaximus,
did you decide if you get bigger tires what are you going to go with. cause i'm fixin to put the same application on my 99 dak 2wd. i was just going to put the body lift on until i seen your truck it's killer!
so i broke down and put the extra money in.
i'm thinking about going with 32x11.50/15's for right now. do you think i'll have to trim anything?
drop me a line man all info is greatly appreciated
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Chaximus
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8/22/2002
00:31:19
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Hey man, yeah i went with 31x11.5 bfg mudders. Love em...makes the truck stand out even more. Gotta fix the gears though..they are waaaaaaay off. I can's steady it on the freeway with cruise control anymore :( I went with goodyear mt/r's at first....at 33x12.5....they were too big....rubbed on both ends of the fender....and i didn't want to chop off anything so i took em back for 31's. The guys offered me 32's for the same price and guaranteed they would not rub, but i didn't go for it. 33's seemed a bit too heavy. 31's feel perfect.
Email me at cmh7456@Osfmail.rit.edu if you want some pix.
chris
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dweishaar
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8/22/2002
00:55:55
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okay, first i HAVE to send a big "i'm sorry" out there. due to current computer issues, i can't get my pictures posted. authur...i have to agree and disagree with you buddy. my lift kit was an add-a-leaf to the rear, so i gained both a half an inch of travel and height. as for the front....the refit my guys and i did were new arms, coils and shocks. now this is where you are sorta wrong. the difference between a body lift and a suspension lift is three fold.
-clearance
-travel
-durability
now to your average offroader that likes to put his truck in the mud from time to time (mainly east coasters) can get away with it, cause they keep all 4 feet firmly on the ground. now as for me.. i live in southern california, so all i have to play in is sand and rocks, and i like to launch my truck in excess of 40mph off 10-15 foot dunes. so the differance between a suspension and a body lift isn't a matter of a thousand bucks, its a matter of punching holes through my body and wasting an awesome vehicle. as i've said before....i use my truck to it's utmost abilities, and can't sacrifice performance. i've said my peace.
One Eyed Fox
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scott
Dodge Dakota
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8/22/2002
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As to this talk about a body lift "punching holes through the body"...when the veh. is stock, it has the same amount of contact area where the orig. mounting pads meet the body. So why then would putting a 3in spacer between it and the frame make any difference? The area of contact is still the same...at least it has been on any ones I`ve ever done , or seen.
Don`t get me wrong I`m not a big fan of b-lifts myself , mainly for the cosmetic reasons , but if that`s your only real choice , what`s a person to do?
BTW I`d love to see a truck with the Truckin Suspension or Whiplash kit survive the type of punishment you speak of...and not just one or two times.I guarantee they would come apart before a body lift would come through the body!
Please remember us 4X4s don`t have a reliable susp. lift yet.
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arthur
Dodge Dakota
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8/22/2002
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Dweishaar,
First off...i'm sorry too. I didn't mean to be mean, i was just trying to make clear that your ideas need not be so openly negative.
Your very right when it comes to the idea that USUALLY a suspension lift does provide better travel...but the current lift for our 4X4 trucks from Truckin DOES NOT provide better travel or articulation.
I'm a very avid 4 wheeler. I had a Jeep before i got my dakota. I also live in SoCal. My normal hang out spots are the Pismo Dunes for sand and Pozo for rocks and trails. You can ask a few of the guys on this site and they will speak on my behalf for how crazy i can get in my truck. I understand totally that suspension lifts do a better job with 4 wheeling. I totally respect the fact that you use your truck...especially since so many SoCal guys lift their trucks for looks and never use them.
Just understand suspension lifts aren't worth buying for our trucks yet...and so many want some altitude for their trucks.
By the way...i do like the look of your truck...i love prerunners out at the dunes. Next you need a full race cage and a paint job!
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