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Fitz
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2/20/2003
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Hey. The kit came with add-a-leafs for the rear and coil spacers for the front. Getting two inches instead of three is for the gen 3 coil spacers. Actually, very few ppl have gotten the full two inches from the front. What happens is the spacer wont fit so you need to cut some of the coil. This is what happened to me and i only got bout 1 1/2 inches in the front. but i got 2 inches in the back.
I got a question also. I thought you couldnt lift our dakotas with blocks because the leafs are below the axles. Is this true or am i wrong? Also, when ordering the lift get it from Rough Country, not any other auto company. You can get it for alot cheaper, (75 for just the kit, 200 for the kit and four nice shocks) if you order it from Rough Country. You can get the number from the website. But note that they dont have the lift listed on the webste, but they still make it.
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Joe E.
Dodge Dakota
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2/20/2003
19:37:01
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Hey guys,
Mixed info here. The add a leafs work on our 2wd good. The blocks are for 4x4s. Our 2wds have leafs under the axles so if you add 2in blocks, it would lower the rear. On 4x4s the leafs are on top of the axles. So they can use blocks.
Well, my lifting is donr for a while. My tranny blew a week ago and I just now got it fixed and back on the road. At a cost of alittle over $2K. So no lifting for me right now. Nice picts fitz. Looks nice.
Joe E.
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Fitz
Dodge Dakota
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2/20/2003
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Hey ya'll. Sucks bout the tranny but i saw you got it delt with. Thats what i thought bout the blocks. But is the reason 4WD's are taller than 2WD's becuase the leafs are over the axles rather than under? That seems to make sense. But Joe E what lift were you going to put on. I thought u said the AIM 3 inch coils but aim and all those companies are crap.
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Joe E.
Dodge Dakota
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2/21/2003
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Yeah I know. Some people cant stand them. I am willing to try it. I just need to get the cash together to do so. I am kinda thinking to buy that kit, and have custom springs made to their size. etc. Well see what happens.
Joe E.
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Fitz
Dodge Dakota
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2/21/2003
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Hey. Well reading Knobbyman, he was willing to try it, and that lift=no Dakota. Just looking out for ya. you got a nice truck. But are you saying for the longer coils you'd take the spacers out? Virtually you'd only be getting an inch more, right. well its up to you. One inch can make alot of difference. Good Luck.
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Joe E.
Dodge Dakota
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2/21/2003
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Mathmatically, yes. The 2in spacer will be gone, and a 3in coil installed. BUT, the stock coil is about 14 years old now. Its not at all as big as its new self. haha. So I am hoping that when I put in the 3in coils, they will be a full length stock coil plus a full 3in. So I am hoping to get at least 1.5in of lift outa it. MAybe 2in. Thanks for the concern.
No one else here has tried this lift. But its been out for a while so it must have sold some in the usa. I am trying to get them to send me a name to contact but they are always say they cant do that. Well see. Later tho man. Have a good one.
Joe E.
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Fitz
Dodge Dakota
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2/23/2003
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Hey. I was thinking about the tralimaster suspension lift for the 91-96. Do you know if the front suspension is the same on 4WD's and 2WD's? If so than i betcha you could modify the 4 inch trailmaster and put it on our 2WD's. Becuase if the front stuff is the same it must be the back suspension. I know they use blocks which would lower ours, so maybe i could just use shackles. just a thought.
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Joe E.
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2/24/2003
02:00:52
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Well, the 4x4s have a torsion bar susp. up front. We dont. I know walt felix took that lift and made it work on his 88 4x4. Alot of tinkering tho. So I really dont think it would go on our 2wds. Plus, the initial $1300 for the lift is too much to maybe get it to work and maybe not. I think our best bet is to get a 3in lift coil setup and bug the hell outa someone to make some 3in lift spindles for our daks. Then wed be set. Later man.
Joe E.
Long evening. Had a buddys Toyota at the mud bog blow his tranny ain seal. Spent 4 hours gettin it home and cleanen all the crap off it. Just so tomarrow it can get to the shop. Its 2am and Im beat! Later
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Fitz
Dodge Dakota
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2/24/2003
16:13:08
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Ya well i dont want to buy the lift from Aim. for safety an all. But i'd do the spindles. Can you give an email to me for fabtech becuase i tried to email them but they gave me the wrong email adress.
i know the Trailmaster lift is alot but four inches on my truck plus the body lift that ill eventually put on, you could fit 35's. that is nice. i dont think ive ever seen 35's on a gen II. well any ways take it easy.
-Fitz
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Joe E.
Dodge Dakota
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2/25/2003
00:17:03
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Yo fitz, hows it goen man? I am hesitant about the AIM lift to. But I am desprite just the same. I really want these 3in lift spindles. We could then run 6in of susp lift. And a 3in body lift, were runnen big my friend. I guess well see huh. I still dont think that trailmaster will work on our trucks being a 2wd. But thats your call.. Good luck tho. Later.
Joe E.
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Fitz
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2/26/2003
15:53:03
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Ya well screw the Trailmaster thing. just an idea.
Hey can you give me the spindle comapnaies email address so i can start buggin them too. Maybe i can start a thread getting people to email the company. 6 inches of suspension, plus 3 body, beautiful. I'd love that and would do it in a second. O, but how much do spindles usually run for. Thanks again. Have a good one.
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Joe E.
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2/26/2003
19:42:40
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Dude, the spindles would be the perfect lift for our trucks. They simply relocate the wheel in respect to the control arms 3in lower than stock. So its a complete 3in of lift, with no sagging or excessive wear of anyother susp components. They also are totally alignment friendly, etc.
I have been buggen AIM, yeah I know, and they said 2 years ago they were about the start them. Then it was up after the ranger spindles, and now who knows. But bug them man. I am too. Fabtech, is another. And they normally run about $250.00 a pair. Cheep and great lift. Cant get better than that. We just gotta have a company do it.
So whats with the trailmaster lift?
Yeah with 9in o lift, wed be runnen 35s. It look soooooooo good!
Well, later Fitz
Joe E.
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Fitz
Dodge Dakota
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2/26/2003
20:30:33
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hey. Well i took a look at my truck and saw the spindles, so do the newer ones replace them or what? sorry im a little confused. Well ill be sure to start bugging AIM an fabtech. But none of the fabtech email adresses work! they dont tell ya if its .com or .org or whatever.
Well i decided that when my little brother gets its, hes 13 now, he's gonna replace the rough Country lift and try the trailmaster 4 inch. Buig risk and lots of cash involved, but hes piad for drumming so he'll get it done. Also, i called a local 4x4 retailer and they told me the trailmaster used blocks for the rear, and the front new a arms.
As for the trailmaster body lift. I think i might go for that rather than buying a duel exaust system. I just gotta get some price quotes. How much did they charge you? Im planning on putting in the body lift and then getting it towed to the shop, They'll do all the modifications. Thanks and have a good one.
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Joe E.
Dodge Dakota
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2/27/2003
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Whats up Fitz,
about the spindles, they totally replace the stock ones. If you look at the shaft that the wheel rides on, and visualize it 3in lower on the spindle, thn you have a lift spindle. All attachments are as stock. So all geometry is stock. Very good way to lift...
The fabtech email must be a .com address. Com mean commercial, or business. Org. is organization, edu is education, and gov is gov't.
The trailmaster lift was 3in and cast me $500 total. Tey ordered the lift, installed it, and did all necessary fabs it took to complete. Bumper relocation, fan shround fix, steering extension, etc. Good Luck.
Joe E.
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Fitz
Dodge Dakota
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2/27/2003
15:38:09
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Hey Well the guy from AIM just contacted me and said that spindles are very complicated and all that bull, but to make a prototype they'd need 100 people interested. And 9 months. So i think ill start a thread somewhere. But he says the Dakota market isnt that heavy. bull.
500 dollars... is do able. Just gotta shovel some walks when this snow come round. But i think i'd put the lift on myself and have my friend tow me to the shop for the steering extensoin and fan shrowd. Any ways take it easy.
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stealwings582
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2/28/2003
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I don't understand this. Fabtech told me the samething. There's a lot of poeple that would like to raise there Daks more than three inches of suspension. If theres a market for 3 inches of lift, than there should be a market for more.
Wouldn't want any other!
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Joe E.
Dodge Dakota
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2/28/2003
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But in comparason to the ranger, full size chevy, f150, etc, dakotas really havent held a large part of the truck market until the last 3 years. Hince, its more worth thier time to build parts for those popular trucks than for our. I am just hoping that eventaully they will run outa the most popular list of trucks and start on us smaller market people.
Joe E.
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dkr8611
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2/28/2003
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Who are these people that you are talking to at AIM? I would like to speak to one of them personally about the spindle issue. When I contacted AIM in the past I always got the runaround. Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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Fitz
Dodge Dakota
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3/02/2003
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Hey im talking to mitch.
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Fitz
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3/07/2003
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Hey Joe. Got another question. This ones about a soild axle swap. I've been reading about these and it sounds interesting. But i got some questions bout it. First, what trucks do u get the Dana axles. Say i take one from a 1994 f-250, does that mean i can put on any lift for an F-250? Man thats sweet. Plus it could handle any lift becuase it comes with new steering right? Sweet man.
Just asking for future reference. tomarrow im bringing my truck to an auto shop to discuss a whole new exhaust system. O, sorry i got one more question. You say you take your Dak offroad? how does the 2WD affect your off road capabilities. Thanks man. Have a good one.
-fitz
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Joe E.
Dodge Dakota
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3/08/2003
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Well, lets qualify this a bit. I havent done much off roading lately. And now with a expensive tranny, I dont even burn out anymore. Well, for a while. But the 2wd is ok but not real great. I didnt take it on much with articulation. Or rock/stump obstacles. Not a ton of ground clearence for that. But I have plenty of fun in the mud. And alot of pulls out. haha. But its in good fun. But the 2wd might be ok with a locker or something in the rear, but they are not mean to do real tough stuff.
With the solid axel, your looking at a whole custom set up. Be ready to have the truck out commission for at least a couple months. Not sure on the danas. I have heard that Jeep axels were a good medium duty swap for our trucks. But dont know for sure. About the lifts, you dont need them. With a solid axle swap, you most of the time go complete leaf spring suspension. And they are easy to have arched or custom made for just about anything. So the lift is no big deal. And you should move the axle front about 2-3 in. Just for clearence. Steering, like you said, all custom, no crap and pinion. But you gotta really be ready to drop $4K if your looken at that.
Ive tossed it around but right now, no cash to go that way. Hope this helps...
Later man.
oh about the exhaust. Have them remove the cat if possible. Its kinda illegal so it might be under the table. Go with a high flow muffler. I have flowmaster 40 I think. 1 in 2 out. With 2.5in pipes. If you want a good sound, go with edelbrock headers and a K&N. With the exhaust, man it sounds good. I have dodge people ask me all the time what v8 I have and what exhaust. I laugh when I say its a 3.9L V6. Well, have a good one.
Joe E.
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