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Knobbyman
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5/18/2002
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Yep that's right my truck is dead again...
I went wheeling to break in the new lift and it looks like my truck mis-understood when I said BREAK in... Anyway it turns out that there is a hole in my transfer case right where the front drive shaft comes out. Not actually in the transfer case but in the steel sleeve where it all joins. I'll get pictures once I get it rotated around but basically I can stick my finger in my Transfer Case.. TIP : DON"T EVER DO THAT!! you can't wash the grease off even w/ Pro 409 & Lava soap.
Anyway I'll be taking my truck to the corner to wash it up and then drive it up the street about 2 miles to the Dodge dealer .. and HOPE!!! that they cover it. I know the service guy and he's helping out the club in D/FW a little bit by sending people to us. Hopefully they'll cover it.
BTW! for all of you that think my truck either has a black cat living under the hood or is possessed my girl friend has hired a exorcist to come out and sprinkle holy water all over my truck.
I haven't installed the Add-a-Leafs yet.. I think I'll go down to 4wheel parts and do it in there parking lot ;-) just incase.
Same with the Rancho 9000's if I can afford them after I get my transfer case fixed. If I have to pay for that.. I'm starting a HELP KNOBBY GET HIS TRUCK FIXED FOR GOOD FUND! ;-) paypal @ knobbyman@yahoo.com .. Eh... one of these days it'll be fixed right? I mean what ELSE could POSSIBLY go wrong?
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
4.5" Customized Suspension Lift
305x70x16 GoodYear MT/R's
http://www.knobbyman.com
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bjlindsey
*GenIII*
5/18/2002
12:18:57
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Don't ask whatcha don't wanna know!!!!
01 QC 4x4 5.9L 3.92 LSD
3" Body Lift, 305/70-R16 XTerrains,
K&N clone, Clear Corners, Carbon Fiber Tails,
www.FreeGasForYou.com
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12GA Dak
*GenIII*
5/18/2002
13:25:38
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Jeez, Knobby! I guess that's ONE way to keep the mileage down, huh? Here's hopin' that your luck takes a turn (for the better).*lifts his beer to his lips and takes a long swig* 
2002 Black QC Sport 4x4, 4.7L, 5-spd, 3.92 LSD
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2THEXTRM
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5/18/2002
14:13:37
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So what "caused" the hole in your transfer case? Hit something off-roading or caused by the lift? Just wondering...
Flowmaster cat back, Air Raid w/homemade TB connect, Poweraid TB Spacer, Splitfire Plugs
3 inch body and 1.5 Block Lift, 305 70-16 X-Terrains on AR Terons
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BlackDak02
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5/18/2002
18:52:03
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K-man, this is what ya gotta do:  
Yeah, I'm curious as to what happened with the transfer case as well...
2002 Black CC SLT 4x4
4.7L 45RFE 3.55 LSRD
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Knobbyman
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5/18/2002
22:29:51
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I really doubt if it was caused by me hitting something because
1. The hole is directly above the frame cross-member.
2. The hole is going from the inside out. Like.. If I were to hit something then the hole would be pushed in.. This is pushed out.
3. I was driving on level ground when it happend. No bumps or mud or anything maybe going like 10 mph... MAYBE probably more like 5.
I'll be taking it to the dealer on Monday.
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
4.5" Customized Suspension Lift
305x70x16 GoodYear MT/R's
http://www.knobbyman.com
----Speed only breaks stuff faster----
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bjlindsey
*GenIII*
5/19/2002
01:38:59
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Somebody found a crapload of online icons!!!!
01 QC 4x4 5.9L 3.92 LSD
3" Body Lift, 305/70-R16 XTerrains,
K&N clone, Clear Corners, Carbon Fiber Tails,
www.FreeGasForYou.com
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BlackDak02
*GenIII*
5/19/2002
02:29:04
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 Had a little spare time!
2002 Black CC SLT 4x4
4.7L 45RFE 3.55 LSRD
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bjlindsey
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5/19/2002
04:15:09
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Holy bejesus!!!! Someone stop him!!! He reminds me of that bjlindsey jacka$$ w/ all his pics!!!!
01 QC 4x4 5.9L 3.92 LSD
3" Body Lift, 305/70-R16 XTerrains,
K&N clone, Clear Corners, Carbon Fiber Tails,
www.FreeGasForYou.com
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durtydog
GenIII
5/19/2002
08:15:06
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lmao!at you guys with your icons!
knobby hope the sevice dude takes care of you!
if it looks like something popped out from the transfer case then they should have no problem with covering it!
98 club cab sport 5.2 4x4 durtydog is done dirt cheap
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2THEXTRM
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5/19/2002
09:54:38
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LMAO BJ, "a crapload of online icons", I have noticed alot of avatar's lately... they are pretty funny.
Flowmaster cat back, Air Raid w/homemade TB connect, Poweraid TB Spacer, Splitfire Plugs
3 inch body and 1.5 Block Lift, 305 70-16 X-Terrains on AR Terons
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BlackDak02
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5/19/2002
10:53:53
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Seriously though, Knobby, did you have to get the front d-shaft lengthened when you did the lift? Also did the lift rotate the angle of your front pinion to align it with the trans case? I haven't looked real close but is there a slip joint on the front d-shaft? Man, you've been through hell with this crap, hope they get you rollin' again soon.
2002 Black CC SLT 4x4
4.7L 45RFE 3.55 LSRD
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2THEXTRM
GenIII
5/19/2002
11:40:44
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I would sure hope the front transfer case drop down brackets had some angle to them otherwise you would throw dependability right out the window.
Flowmaster cat back, Air Raid w/homemade TB connect, Poweraid TB Spacer, Splitfire Plugs
3 inch body and 1.5 Block Lift, 305 70-16 X-Terrains on AR Terons
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Knobbyman
*GenIII*
5/19/2002
11:59:21
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No dropdown on the Transfer Case..
Yes the Front Drive Shaft extends long enough.
I'm wondering again.. What was Truckin' Thinking? and Also has dpkerns put his truck into 4x4 yet?
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
4.5" Customized Suspension Lift
305x70x16 GoodYear MT/R's
http://www.knobbyman.com
----Speed only breaks stuff faster----
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cadetdak
Dodge Dakota
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5/19/2002
14:20:44
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To quote space balls yet again
(in a muffled voice) "I'm having trouble with the radar sir"
"what's wrong with it?"
"I've lost the bleeps, the sweeps and the creeps"
"the what"
"the what?
"and the what?"
"you know the bleeps" (makes noises"
"the sweeps" (makes noises"
"and the creeps" (makes more noises"
(as a side comment) "that's not all he's lost"
"sir, the radar, it appears to jammed"
so knobby, maybe you should check for a jar of jam?
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QUADMAN
GenIII
5/20/2002
10:11:28
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I'm not trying to say the glass is half empty or anything but if they warranty that it will really surprise me. I really hope they do knobby. I am really worried about the safety of that lift now.
OPINIONS ARE LIKE....WELL, YOU KNOW THE REST!!
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Knobbyman
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5/20/2002
10:36:28
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You and me both.. I'm going to seriously be pissed.
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
4.5" Customized Suspension Lift
305x70x16 GoodYear MT/R's
http://www.knobbyman.com
----Speed only breaks stuff faster----
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scott
Dodge Dakota
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5/20/2002
17:32:12
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Knobby,
On the 5.5 Tuff Country lift I had , they don`t include (or recommend) a longer front driveshaft or anything to lower the transfercase.That was one thing I never had any issues with with that lift , so that leads me to believe your lift SHOULDN`T be the cause of your most recent problem.That will be up to the dealer to decide though :( .
Good luck.
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IntenseDak39
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5/20/2002
21:09:21
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knobby... if you have no luck where your going, i have a BUNCH of buddies at Allen Samuels Dodge in N. Richland Hills by the mall... i probably hook you up with something. They replace my intake manifold for free under warranty when i broke it.
just a thought but no promises...
intensedak39
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robert
Dodge Dakota
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5/21/2002
15:29:13
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The problem with taking your truck to the dealer, have them decline to fix it under warranty... then take it to a 'buddy' dealer is that you are in the system. If you haven't already taken your truck in, I would suggest taking it to the 'right' dealer first.
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kjw
Dodge Dakota
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5/21/2002
17:39:01
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Knobby if you ever get that thing straightened out make sure you let everyone know.
It may have it's problems but it sure looks good.
(kinda like a 60's muscle car)
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Knobbyman
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5/21/2002
19:07:58
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:-\ ShoooooooooooooooooooT!!!!! wish I read this post earlier this morning. I took my truck to my dealer.. they said $300 for the part then labor is ontop of that.
I'm going to take my truck back by the off-road shop and see if they can come up with a new design for it. I need to change from the CV-Joint because it can't handle the angle as well as a U-Joint could (if designed correctly).
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
4.5" Customized Suspension Lift
305x70x16 GoodYear MT/R's
http://www.knobbyman.com
----Speed only breaks stuff faster----
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BlackDak02
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5/21/2002
20:13:11
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Dunno, K-man, you might be better off just taking it to a good driveshaft shop. They should be able to fab up a custom front shaft with double cardan joints for the severe angles in your application. Unless your 4-wheel guy does d-shaft fabbing at his shop. Cut out the middleman & save some $, it's up to you.
2002 Black CC SLT 4x4
4.7L 45RFE 3.55 LSRD
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cadetdak
Dodge Dakota
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5/21/2002
20:19:46
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Knobby,
you know that in order for the dealer to deny coverage they have to prove that the modification caused the malfunction. If something blew out of your transfer case then it might not have been from the lift it "might" have been a faulty part. Plus they have to prove this in writing. But I'm surprised they only wanted 300 to fix the transfer case!?!?! when I got hit before I totaled my truck the plastic valence that hangs under the front bumper I know is worth $450 all by it's little bity self and it's nothign more then an injection molded piece of plastic.
just my 2 cents
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robert
Dodge Dakota
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5/22/2002
11:54:02
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cadetdak,
Actually, all the dealer has to do is say "no"! They don't have to prove crap. Once they say "no", it is up to you to get the manufacturer involved or take them to court.
Don't get me wrong, I hope Knobbyman gets this all fixed OK.
But, you guys sometimes forget who is in charge. It most certaintly is NOT you! This is why I tell people to ask the manufacturer about aftermarket parts voiding the warranty.... and NOT to believe the aftermarket part manufacturer. When push comes to shove, it will be on YOUR shoulders to get the warranty work done.
Remember... all the dealer has to say is "no, we wont fix it under warranty." Until you take them to court, the dealer doesn't have to do crap!
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Knobbyman
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5/22/2002
12:13:42
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They don't have to do anything true.. But by law they are required to prove it in writing if you ask for it.
I knew this was because of the lift because I've taking my truck off-road before and it never happened.. No more then 5 minutes into it w/ this lift on and.. *POP!* there it goes. I was just hopeing that it would be covered eventhough I knew it wouldn't be.
BTW it wasn't the Transfercase it was just the CV joint. Also I don't pay what the dealer says on ANYTHING.
I'm taking my truck into the off-road shop for it's checkup today.. I'm going to have them look at the drive shaft.. See what they think and then I'm going to take it to a drive shaft place and see what they think.....
Wish me GOOD LUCK!! I need all that I can get. :)
'01 Graphite QC 4x4
4.7 3.55 LSD
4.5" Customized Suspension Lift
305x70x16 GoodYear MT/R's
http://www.knobbyman.com
----Speed only breaks stuff faster----
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cadetdak
Dodge Dakota
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5/22/2002
12:19:50
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that's not entirely true. I dealt with this with my 97 dakota before I totaled it. I had torn out the axles (read: broke into many pieces) and they said no to it being fixed under warrenty. Well i took the dealer to court on the matter and was told by the judge that they have to provide it in writing and because they didn't he ruled in my favor.
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Hawkeye
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5/22/2002
14:39:50
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Robert, it might not be easy true, but, Your warranty can only be voided, if the dealer can prove that the modifications you have made to your truck are the direct cause of whatever problem you are in for. For example, If my water pump goes on my engine, they cant refuse to honor the warranty to fix it becauseI have a body lift unless they can prove that my adding a body lift directly caused the problem.
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bjlindsey
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5/22/2002
17:24:06
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Good Luck, Knobbyman........AGAIN!!!!!!!!
01 QC 4x4 5.9L 3.92 LSD
3" Body Lift, 305/70-R16 XTerrains,
K&N clone, Clear Corners, Carbon Fiber Tails,
www.FreeGasForYou.com
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robert
Dodge Dakota
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5/22/2002
23:39:56
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People,
I'm not saying the dealer wont ultimately have to fix your vehicle. I'm simply stating that if a dealer wants to be a prick, it will be up to YOU to make them do it. They wont just roll over and say "your right, the law say such and such."
cadetdak, you PROVED my point. You HAD to take them to court to get your issue resolved. How many people have the time and money to do this? I certainly have the money, but not the time. BTW, did you get your court costs refunded? Plus, if you have to do this every time you have an issue with your dealer, it gets old real fast.
All I was trying to do was be the devil's advocate. Just because K&N says their filters and/or FIPK does NOT void the warranty, doesn't mean that a dealer can blame it on a problem. (This was just an example.) And I tell ya what, no matter what K&N says, they will not take your dealer to court for YOU!
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robert
Dodge Dakota
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5/22/2002
23:41:59
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To fix my post above, I meant to say that:
...doesn't mean that a dealer CAN'T blame it on a problem...
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