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Mikey
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4/23/2002
02:31:58

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I heard that if I were to use the FABTECH 2" or 3" lift, they would sag after time, is that true? and if so, what kind of suspension lift can I get that wont sag, and stay at its true height forever?



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4/23/2002
08:40:28

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No Suspension lift will stay all the way up forever.

Fabtech uses springs .. springs fade no matter what you use. Just replace those and your good togo. I don't know what the time period is but it's going to happen no matter which lift you buy. Same thing for the Torsion bars. They fade after time and you have to replace them. The harder you ride um the sooner you'll have to replace them....

Unless I'm missing something.. Can anyone comment from personal experiance?

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Jeff
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4/23/2002
18:20:05

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Spring sag does happen to every spring that sees a load... the amount of weight the spring has to support is just as important as the spring construction itself. More weight on a cheap spring will sag faster than less weight on a good spring... duh right? Not all springs are equal - imagine you take a paper clip and wrap it around a pen or pencil to make a spring... now compress that spring and watch as it "sags" right before you very eyes. Now if you had an actual spring made from a more spring like material you could compress the spring and it would bounce right back to its original shape/height. The spring winding material used in some Fabtech springs is rather inexpensive but still manages to only sag an inch or so over the life of the spring. With most coilspring suspension systems you can insert a urethane or rubber spacer between the spring and upper spring bucket to regain the height you've lost. How much and how fast a spring settles will also depend on how many times the spring is compressed and to what degree it is compressed... if you wheel the truck off-road frequently the springs will compress more and be compressed more times than if you just cruise the highway everyday. I have a pair of 3" CST springs in my 2000 4.7 Dakota and they have settled about .75" over the last two years. Don't worry about the sag - truck lifts are like boob jobs... they sag a little over time and you just keep lifting em' up.

Jeff @ PLC
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4/23/2002
19:24:30

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Very well put.. that's what I tried to say ;-)

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Jason
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4/24/2002
01:48:45

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hhey jeff, is the Fabtech and the CST springs the same quality, in other words, do they sag, the same amount? thanks!



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4/24/2002
16:50:36

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The spring sag will be about the same. It's hard to tell which spring is sagging more without using a lab to test them... realworld driving has too many variables. Every once and awhile there is a bad batch of springs wound and some end up sagging more than others. I'd be willing to say that in average the two springs are the same. I also know that CST uses Fabtech springs in some of their kits. I don't know who is winding the springs for Fabtech though. I wouldn't worry about the sag with either company - it's inevitable.

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4/25/2002
04:55:19

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hey jeff, you said that your springs have settled about 0.75" over the past couple years, are they gonna keep on sagginh? or does the sagging stop at a certain point?

and also, I have a 2WD 2002 CC Dakota, are there any other suspension lifts out there besides the fabtech? is anyone going to make any for my model truck? thanks!



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4/26/2002
03:11:12

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I suppose if I keep driving the way I do they'll keep sagging - but they won't sag enough for me to notice. The sagging doesn't ever really stop, it just slows down to the point where in another 10 years I might be able to tell the springs sagged more. The truck hasn't changed height in any noticable fashion for months. Like I keep saying, the whole spring sag thing is not something to worry about. Worry about changing your tranny fluid or keeping the windshield fluid resevoir full - but don't worry about your springs sagging.

CST has a jig for the arm... but from what I've heard the Dakota/Durango arms are not being built right now. The GM stuff is flying out the doors as fast as it can be built... the Dodge Dakota/Durango stuff was usually built when a customer ordered the kit. I'll ask if they have any plans to build a few kits or if they have any sitting in inventory.

Jeff @ PLC
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4/26/2002
04:57:38

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hey jeff, thanks! yea and if they do have any lift for my truck, send me an email at kimcheeboy@email.com and let me know, thanks!



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4/26/2002
04:57:38

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hey jeff, thanks! yea and if they do have any lift for my truck, send me an email at kimcheeboy@email.com and let me know, thanks!



Matt
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9/09/2003
19:20:29

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hey jeff, i was wondering what size tire you are runnin'
on you 3" lift. Did you have to regear? thanks man!



Jeff
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9/09/2003
22:31:40

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I run a 31x10.5R15 tire. That's as large as you can run and not have bad rubbing problems. I have the 4.7L with factory 3.92 gears and I've got over 90,000 miles on the lift. I'm selling my Dakota to buy a diesel Super Duty because the Dakota just doesn't have the beans to tow a trailer or haul a boat. If anyone wants to buy a 2000 Dakota with 92,000 miles (great shape) let me know :)

Aloha

Jeff @ PLC
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