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Stick
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4/19/2002
18:00:03

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I just saw this on Ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1822544009

I am putting a 2" body lift on mine and this is promising if I can fit 33's...I was guessing 32's would be it. Has anyone else tried this combination?

Brent88
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4/20/2002
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you gota realize that this person did do some fender hacking, look close at the front air damn it usualy follows the fender straight down but in the pic it is slanting. to bad you cant see what he did in the back of the front wheel well cause that is the spot that the tire would rub the most. looks kinda good though, makes me think about a 3 in. and those 32's a little more.
later

tj
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4/22/2002
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i've got a 3" body and 31" there is rubing when the wheel is turned all the wat to the left and i go over a rock, log, etc.. 33" may work if you don't leave the pavment.

jLo
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4/23/2002
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tj... does it rub the body or the frame? i imagine it's the frame, because i have 31's stock with no rub... also, what year is yours... that could be part of it

Walt Felix
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4/23/2002
10:18:02

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It all depends on the width and back spacing of your rims and the width of the tire you want to run. With just a 3” body lift & cranked torsion bars on my truck before, I rubbed slightly when turning with 31’s mounted on a set of 15x8 rims with a 3-1/2” backspacing. 31’s will probably fit fine with rims with a stock width and backspacing on the street. You may get some slight rubbing on the frame when off-road. Change one of those variables and you will most likely rub.

Now I have the 4” suspension lift, 3” body lift and cranked torsion bars on my ’88. My rims are 15x10 with a 3” backspacing with 33x14.50 Baja Claws mounted on them. I rub slightly when flexing. I probably could run a ’35, but I wouldn’t be able to wheel the truck without tearing up the tires and fenders.

87-96 Dakotas have the same wheel well dimensions so the year of the truck doesn’t become a factor until 97, which will fit 31” tires on a stock height 4x4 because the wheel wells are larger.

Walt

Stick
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4/23/2002
10:34:31

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I thought that 31's were an option for Gen II 4x4's from the factory? I have AR-767(15x8) wheels which will keep the backspacing close to the factory number. From what I have seen, it seems the tire width causes more problems than height.
Walt, I could see how the 35's would not fit on your truck, especially when off-roading. I don't plan on off-roading a ton, but would like to have the option to do so...I think I am best off to stick with the 32's.
Thanks for the input!

RIPPER
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4/23/2002
23:38:15

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I have a 92 4x4 with a 3" body and 30x9.5 tires. I dont think you could fit 31s with out rubbing. Less if you could make the tires set out wider than the frame. I would love to get 31s with an off set rim.

Is backspaceing and off set the same thing?

RIPPER
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4/23/2002
23:41:32

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Heres some OK pictures.

http://www.geocities.com/rippinitup2000/Dodge_Dakota.html

Later!

SuperBee
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4/24/2002
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hey ripper are the tbars cranked. i was measuring and i got a little over an inch space on either side of my tire no matter where they are turned, so i think i could get some 30s to fit on mine as is
1990 Sport, RC

it doesnt look liek you have them cranked, but anyway, dam dude, get some lift lips, or at least use some old landscaping edging or something to block the gap

RIPPER
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4/25/2002
00:24:07

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I think my tbars are pretty good. Maybe they could be cranked up some. But its not too bad. I think I will get some 31x10.5 for it and get the most backspaceing as I can get. I got the fender clearance but the wider tires may rub the frame when I turn the tires all the way over.

You cant really see the gap in real life unless if you look at it just right. Right now I want to put my money into some other things than lips. Like scoops, visor, side bars, fender flares and some power mods.

hoe
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4/25/2002
09:55:26

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i have a 95 dakota that i just put a 2 inch body lift on and yesterday i bought 31 10.50 bf mud terrains and my torsion bars are maxed and i had slight rubbing on the front tires rubbing ht erear of the wheel well so i had to take my mud flaps off but theres still slight rubbing but not even enough to notice

scott
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4/25/2002
16:49:19

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i've got a 94 4x4. i've got some 31x10.5's on it with the stock wheels and no lift. nothing rubs. the torsion bars aren't cranked or anything.

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4/25/2002
17:58:02

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I have an 87 with 32's on it with 8 inch wheels. Just cranked up the torsion bars. It only rubs when you turn very sharpe and hit a hard bump at the same time.

Stick
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4/26/2002
06:53:42

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Thanks Scott and dgepwr, everyone else was scaring me saying that their 30's and 31's were rubbing, its good to know that there are some out there that aren't having any problems.
I tend to think that if the wheel backspacing is kept close to stock, that there shouldn't be much problem running the 32's and very little rubbing with 33's. I might see if I can find someplace that would let me "test drive" a set of 33's on my truck and if they do rub too much then just exchange them for some 32's. My torsion bars have not been cranked, and I am not sure I want to mess with them too much, too much strain. How long has everyone had their bars cranked and how much are they cranked?

SuperBee
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4/26/2002
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did anyone have to remove or hack on their front spiler that hangs down, because i dont like the look when that is taken off, that and i have fog lights in there so it woul look funny with the fog lights hanging down into nothingness,

PICTURES PEOPLE PICTURES!!!

and to be honest i think the 33s on there look funny, i dont care if they are 33s the look funny on our trucks, well with a 2" body lift only they look funny, those have GOT to rub, i dont care what they did they have got to rub somewhere and alot

Hoe
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4/27/2002
22:04:43

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I bought my 95 about 6 months ago and when i got it the torsion bars were about 90% cranked and i maxed them out all the way and i havent had any joints or anythign liek that go out so i dont think its gonna hurt to much to try it but you might not want to go all the way if your worried about it

Walt Felix
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4/29/2002
14:08:26

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Stick,
I believe 31’s didn’t become an option until 97 as part of the Off-Road group. Prior to that, I think 235/75/R15 were the largest available from the dealer.

Dgepwr,
Where are you rubbing? On the frame, fenders or front valance? If your rubbing while on the street turning into a driveway, you got to be rubbing harder when off road. There is only so much room for the suspension to travel.

Walt

DodgeNut22
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5/03/2002
15:10:31

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Hey Stick...... I've got 3 - 4 by Dakotas and wanted to give you a little more info.. they all have 31 x 10.50 on them, all have stock rims. The one with the 6.5" chrome rims on it (94 - 96 style) has a bit of rub against the frame, both infront and behind the wheel. The other (with the same tires) does not rub, it has the stock 7" steel wheels (similar to the late 70's cop car rims) So the difference is in the rim. The truck that has the steel wheels is stock height, maybe a little lower if you consider 11 years of abuse and front end sag. My other is an 88 with the stock 5 spoke aluminum wheels and they do not rub anywhere, but that truck has been lifted 2" in the front (torsion bar crank) because the provious owner added 2 leafs in the rear, and the truck sat funny. Hope that helps.

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