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034x4qc4.7
Dodge Dakota
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4/10/2006
21:34:46
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a local mechanic told me that if i crank my tortion bars i will have to get an alingment. now i think he's full if $hit but what do you guys think. does anybody have a pic of where to adjust them at so i dont have to pay the local shop. if its just tightining some bolts down that i can do that let me know how to do it.
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Kaine
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4/11/2006
02:19:55
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You don't have to get a alignment but you could wear your tires faster without one. It is recommended to do one everytime you get new tires, as for doing the alignment yourself , don't, setting camber on the vehicle requires some special equipment to measure the degree of slope, your better off to spend your money on the alignment than to have to replace your tires in 15000 km. you'll be fine if you crank the bars but leave some room to play on the adjustor,
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8banger
GenIII
4/11/2006
14:39:02
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My bars have been cranked for over 5,000 miles with zero problems, and the tires are fine. Go for it, but like he said^^ don't crank them to the limit.
03 Dakota 4X4 QC SportPlus 4.7L 3.55 LSD AWD
Superchipped, 2Chamber Flowmaster Dumped, K&N Drop-in, 2" Torsion/Blocks Lift
BFG AT/KO's 265/75/16
My 4X4's Baptism
65 Stang
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034x4qc4.7
Dodge Dakota
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4/11/2006
18:33:04
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i wasnt going to try to align the truck myself i know that takes special tools. but i just need a pic of where to adjust the torsion bars.
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Moser
Dodge Dakota
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4/11/2006
23:49:17
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I don't have a picture, but if you follow the torsion bar all the way back where it mounts to the frame, you'll see a key. The key is what holds/adjusts the bar. The key also has a hexagonal hole in it that the bar is positioned in. On the inside of the key, towards the centre of the truck, you'll see a beefy bolt. On my '92 it has a 15/16th inch head. This is the bolt that needs to be tightened. Some people say to have the front wheels off the ground when tightening and some say otherwise. Myself, I raised the front end off the ground. Also, I found the first turns of the bolt do the most adjusting. Remember that doing this adjustment will create a harsher ride (more preload tension on the bar) and decrease or virtually eliminate suspension droop(rebound travel). Make sure you get an alignment. The toe will be out the most, which is the greatest tire wearing angle. Good luck.
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dakolorado
Dodge Dakota
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4/19/2006
10:55:57
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I have a huge amount of pics of where to adjust the torsion bars on my website.
http://dakota.thefertigs.com
I have a huge amount of writeups for the off road enthusiest and more.
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Super bee
GenI
4/29/2006
01:51:03
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in theory if you crank up the bars your tie rods will not extend themselvs for the longer distance they cover and will mess up your "toe in" alignment
the camber should remain the same, but if you crank them up alot your wheels will point in at the front
1990 sport RC SB, 1995 318drivetrain, 3.92 gears (came with truck) 95 dash/steering wheel, hearthrob exhaust, headers, cutout after y-pipe, necessary electric fan add-a-leafs, 30x9.5 mud tires, cranked T-bars, AR 39 15x8 rims, grill guard, roll bars
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dano
Dodge Dakota
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4/29/2006
12:01:59
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hey super bee, could you post some pics of your truck? im about to do the bar/leaf lift and was thinking about the same size tires, just want to know how ittl look. thanks!
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Moser
Dodge Dakota
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4/30/2006
01:36:19
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Caster, camber and toe will be affected by adjustments made to the torsion bars. But in all likely hood, toe will be the only one out of the "manufactures specified range". Unless of course you had an alignment issue before the adjustment. Toe is by far the greatest tire wearing angle.
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Walt_Felix
Dodge Dakota
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4/30/2006
22:12:37
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Besides toeing in, it will throw the camber off, the upper control arms are shorter and at more of an angle than the lower control arm. As you crank the bars, the geometry of the arms will pull camber in.
Walt
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Super bee
GenI
5/02/2006
02:00:06
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here is prolly the best one i have
recent pics are off becuase the front dropped from the extra weight of the v-8 and im too cheap to spend the moneies for heavier t-bars just for my $hitbox
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1990 sport RC SB, 1995 318drivetrain, 3.92 gears (came with truck) 95 dash/steering wheel, hearthrob exhaust, headers, cutout after y-pipe, necessary electric fan add-a-leafs, 30x9.5 mud tires, cranked T-bars, AR 39 15x8 rims, grill guard, roll bars
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