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BIGTYMER Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
2/03/2005 09:14:57
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Message: Is it possible to take the shackle from the back of the leaf spring and put it on the front?
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Walt_Felix Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
2/03/2005 15:24:37
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Message: Just a question, why would you do that? It doesn't make sense and I don't see what you would gain by doing so. Ideally, you would want the spring’s pivot point to be on the same side as the driveshaft to keep driveline angles semi-consistent.
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BIGTYMER Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
2/10/2005 09:39:35
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Message: Look at the springs and shackles. The shackle is in the back sticking up. If you moved it to the front sticking down it would lift the truck about 4"
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Eric Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
2/10/2005 16:59:02
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Message: It would also eat u joint's like candy. Your pinion would be pushed down because of this and the angle combined with the lift would be way to much for your average u joint. But hey go for it I could use a good laugh.
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BIGTYMER Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
2/15/2005 08:47:41
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Message: I know you would have to use angled blocks to correct the pinion angle from the lift, but the front and back of the leaf spring would both move down the same distance...
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Walt_Felix Dodge Dakota JOIN HERE
2/15/2005 13:45:50
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Message: No, one end of the spring has to be stationary for it to work correctly. If you had shackles on both ends of the springs, they would move forward and backwards with the movement of the truck.
How the leaf spring works is the fixed end should be on the driveshaft side of the axle. As the spring compresses, the axle not only moves upwards, it also shifts back slightly as the arch of the spring decreases. This moves the rear of the spring back slightly and the shackle is there to allow for that movement. The slip yoke on the drive shaft also allows for the movement of the axle. If that movement wasn’t necessary, there would be hard mounts on both ends of the springs and no shackles at all. It would be possible but you’ll rattle your teeth loose because there would be little suspension flex.
If you had the shackle on the front of the rear springs with the fixed end on the rear, with compression, you would be moving the axle forward instead. With enough compression, you would be slide hammering the slip-yoke into the tail shaft.
Assuming your talking about a 4x4, why not just use lift blocks and skip moving the shackle? Or if you don’t want to use lift blocks, you can do add-a-leafs. Other options are to do a shackle flip so the rear of the spring is below the mount and not above it or replace the springs outright with a set high arched springs.
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