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Thraxer528
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5/06/2004
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hey guys, got a few questions...i have a 99 dakota sport 2wd and i have lowered it alot...im sitting about 4 inches from the ground and that has earned my truck the nickname of Draggin...enough of that..im sick of "draggin" everywhere but i love my kota and it has alot of other stuff on it that i dont want to have to sell..so i want to keep the truck but have really been thinking about taking all the lowering stuff off of it and selling all of the stuff and then taking it up...the thing is i dont want a kinda high truck...if i am going to go up with it i want AT LEAST 33s if not 35s..i was just wanting to know is this possible?...I know that you can get a 3 inch Fab. a 3 inch body and a 2 inch coil spacer...for a total of 8 inches..but i dont know how much trouble i am giong to run in to with the alignment and all that good stuff...just wanted your guys 2 cents on the subject and wanted to know how realistic this thought in my head is...thanks
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conig
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5/06/2004
10:26:22
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you would pribable want to try a 1.5 inch spacer as opposed to a two incher. unless you don't mind a rough ride.
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Thraxer528
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5/06/2004
23:52:13
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another question...would i need to have the upper A-arm if i were to have the 2 inch front coils and a 1.5/2 inch front spacer?..and what is the purpose of even having an after market upper A-arm...thanks
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dakotaaggie06
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5/09/2004
14:22:29
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To get 33's on a 2wd you are going to have to put a 3"body lift and a 3" suspension lift on it. I would not suggest running 2 inch coil spacers because this really gives you more than 2 inches of lift and the suspension cant handle that (no downwar travel) as conig has shown. Here is a discussion that conig and i have been having about his problems.
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/raise/2412.html
I have 32's on mine with 2 inch coil lift and a 3 inch body lift. It doesnt look huge, it just looks good. If you want some pics you can email me at hockey10_56@hotmail.com. I am not trying to steer you away from a coil spacer, just go with the 1.5" spacer not the 2". I cant remember how the stock upper a-arm and the 3" fabtech a-arm are different, but it has to do with getting more downward travel. Also if you do go with the fabtech 3", you are going to have to buy some rims with 3 3/4" baspacing or less because of the mew arm.
Andrew
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Thraxer528
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5/09/2004
22:59:46
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thanks andrew for the input...one more question though...would i need to have an upper A arm if i had a 2 inch coil and a 2 inch spacer in the front?...i know that a spacer isnt the best idea but im trying to keep the price down...but i dont want to do soemthing wrong and thats y im asking...thanks again for the input
phil
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dakotaaggie06
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5/10/2004
00:29:53
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yes that would have the same problem. The problem is the length of the spring and with a spacer, that is just adding length to the spring that is non compressible. a 2 inch spring or a 1.5 inch spacer is the biggest you can go with stock a-arms. I think that people have added spacers to the fabtech 3" though. If this didnt cause suspension problems you could probably get an aftermarket bumper and trim ALOT and run 35" tires but I dont think it has been done on a 2wd. If you are willing to spend some money a solid axle swap is the way to go, but this is not cheap at all. If you can do it yourself then if should be probably about 5k to do it, but then you could definately run 35" tires.
Andrew
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scullyways
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5/14/2004
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Andrew
The reason for needing new a-arms with the fabtech lift isn't to do with travel. Its alignment. You don't gain any downward travel, no matter what you do to lift a dakota, but when you lift the truck 3 inches, your angle of your spindle is increased and you can't compensate for it with the stock a-arm. So you get a new a arm to get the alignment back to within specifications. I guess you could get away with 3 inches of lift if you didn't care about how the tires ran on the ground, but thats kinda dangerous. And you also can't run a coil spacer alond with a coil spring. the MAX lift is 3 inches (suspension) no matter what. A guy did do it on this board somewhere, but it again is dangerous. You would be hopping your front end over the slightest of bumbs. You might as well take the spring out and put in a solid block of steel. I can't see you getting any rebound with that kind of spring tension. So either a 2" or 3" lift is your choice. if you get coil spacers, you need 1.5" coil spacers, which give you a 2 inch lift. A 2" coil spacer gives nearly a 3" lift. hope that helps.
Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to be clear.
James
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dakotaaggie06
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5/14/2004
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Then why do the people who do the fabtech 3" not have problems with downward travel and conig is having trouble with it? If what you are saying is true then more people should be having the same problem shouldnt they?
Andrew
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Thraxer528
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5/14/2004
15:22:17
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James
What you are saying is that I am not going to be able to put any more than 3 inches of lift in the front of my Dakota? I think that is what you were saying, and i understand your point, what about if i were to get front springs for a V8 (mine is a V6)? I know that it is going to give it a stiff ride but right now my truck is about 4 inches from the ground and rides like a lawn tractor so i can deal with a little stiffness, but i dont want to mess anything up. I am just wanting to get it as high as possible while still being safe and not hurting anything on the truck. If i can infact only get 3 inches of lift from the suspension and 3 inch body lift then i can only clear 33s. I know that my dads stock 4WD dakota cleared 32s with barly any rubbing. I guess what I am trying to say is that i dont want to put alot of money in to suspension if my truck is just going to look like a 4WD with the Tourtion bars cranked, because if thats the case then i might as well just leave it low, I dont want that but I dont want it to look stock either, and how it is now looks far from stock.
Phil
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dakotaaggie06
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5/18/2004
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How much is alot of money?
Andrew
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Thraxer528
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5/18/2004
09:31:05
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i dont have a problem putting over a grand in suspension alone if i can get it to look like i want it to...5k for the straight axle is to much, i just dont want to put a grand or so in my suspension and only be able to run 33s...and i know i can put the 3 inch suspension lift for less than that...but its still not going to look like i want it to unlesss i can get more than 3 inches of suspension..
Phil
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Thraxer528
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5/19/2004
20:31:14
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well no one seems to know if it is actually true that you cant go any higher than 3 inches on suspension without an alighnment problem. But i think that i may have an idea. If anyone does figure it out i would still be glad to know..thanks again guys for the help
Phil
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dakotaaggie06
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5/20/2004
01:57:44
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I just thought about it but you might be able to just throw the axle under there and not hook up 4wd just make it a 2wd show truck that is huge. You could do that for ~2k and run whatever tire and just do a spring over axle in the rear.
Andrew
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