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Dude
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4/10/2004
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Anyone here running 35's (on a 97-up 4x4)(MTR's are what my friend is selling me) and have a suspension only lift? I really do not want to do a body lift. I was thinking about the TS 4.5" or 6.5" lifts. A little trimming will be fine by me, but not too much.
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dirty durango
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4/13/2004
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I had a set of 35" MTR on my 98 durango with only a 3" body lift. I'm now running 37". I would go with the tuff country 5.5 lift before any of the ts lifts. Tuff Country uses higher quality parts and the instructions for instalation is alot more detailed. How much did you pay for those tires. If you are going to use it in the mud find a different tire. The MTR's don't clean very good and they don't like to bite into the ground.
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sethco
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4/13/2004
17:23:46
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dirty durango do you have pics? how bad do they rub, what other mods did you have to do to squeeze 35's under there? i had 31x10.50 goodyear MTR's a i loved them i got through more mud than any of my friends with jacked up chevys with different mud tires. one of my friends with a Z71 with MTR's could keep up. I know my truck is lighter so it will go futher but i had great experiences with mine just cost to much when i needed new tires. I got cheep all terrains never again will i make that mistake. If you have pics with 35's with a 3" body lift please e-mail them to sethco1@hotmail.com thanks -seth-
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Mopar 4-ever
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4/13/2004
18:57:06
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Goodyear MTR's. I think there are as many people that say they are a great mud tire as there are people who say they are sorry excuse for a mud tire. It just looks to me like they would be a good rock crawling tire and they might clean fairly decent only if you spin 'em really fast.
With all that siping they should be a good all-around tire.
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dirty durango
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4/13/2004
22:30:35
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if you want pics of my rig with the 35" check out my web page
htp://member.cardomain.com/ultimateoffroad
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Dude
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4/13/2004
22:59:20
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So with the 5.5" suspension lift, I should be able to get 37's under my truck? That would be great. I would really really rather have a set of 37" BFG's under my truck than MTR's but my friend's tires only have 150 miles on 'em and I'd get them for way less than he paid through Tire Rack or Tires.com (can't remember, but they were on sale). Can't beat a good deal!
If I do get bigger tires (beyond my 31's), then here come the 4.56's as well. OH YEAH!
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sethco
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4/15/2004
10:08:32
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dirty durango what other modifications did you have to do to get 35's under the durango? crank the torsion bars? extra leaf springs or bend the original ones? how much cutting did you have to do on the fenders? and how bad does it rub on the frame? how much lift do you have, just a pa 3"? please let me know that truck looks bad a$$ hats off to you.
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Mopar 4-ever
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4/15/2004
14:38:14
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Reply for "Dude". You will also have to add a body-lift to your 5.5 inch suspension lift to clear 37's. With just the 5.5 inch lift, even 35's are way too close. There are height differences between body lifts and suspension lifts. A 3-inch body lift is a TRUE 3-inch lift. A 3-inch suspension lift does not necessarially give you 3 more inches of clearance. I'm talking about the number of inches from the top of the tires to the bottom of the fenders. If a suspension lift says 5.5, you might get anywhere from 5 to 6 inches out of it. On our trucks this is espesially true of where you set your torsion bars and where everything in the lift settles after a few miles to driving. This is why a couple of lift manufacturers give their advertised numbers in approximates now. This is also why the lift manufacturers tell you to run a smaller tire tire that what you can actually fit with the lift. For Rancho's 3-inch suspension lift for our trucks, they recommend a 265-75-16 which is what the full-size 94-2001 Ram's came with stock. It's only about a 32-10.50. If you crank the T-bars with that lift, though it is possible to fit 33's. With a body lift, it's a little easier to fit 33's even without the T-bars cranked. What is more important is the WIDTH of the tires you install. There is not as much room in the wheel-wells as there is on a full-size truck. Check out Ren's Dakota page on the web. He has a 5.5 Tuff Country lift with the T-bars cranked and barely clears 35's.
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dirty durango
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4/15/2004
16:57:13
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I have no other modifications to my truck. I had to cut about 1/2" on the front and back side of the front tires. You were asking how bad it rubs with the stock wheels and 35" after about 3/4 turn they would rub the frame.
Since I've put the 37" on it I but 15x10 black rockcrawler beedlock wheels with a 4" backspacing and a rancho 3" lift and I cut and additional 3" out of the fenders front and rear just so when I tuck the tires I don't have the chance of ripping my fender off. And "Dude" just so you know the mopar guy was kinda right. A 3" body lift is a true 3". Where as the tuff country 5.5 lift with new leafs is actually close to 7" new. the only problem you have is after the parts start getting older the start looseing some of the lift so when your done you will end up with 5.5" of lift.( how ever that might be 3yrs down the road.
Something else you have to think about is if you are going to actually use it. If your not than I would go with the 5.5 and some 35" on some 15x8 with a 3.25 backspace. If you do plan on useing it I would also put the 3" body lift on it and run some 38 or 39 on a 15x8 or 15x10. Fender trimming is up to the driver I'd rather be safe and loose the lower part of the fender than run a chance of looseing a fender or ever worse a tire when climbing over a rock.
You might not what to take my total advice since just about 4hrs ago while out wheeling I flipped my truck end over end down a rocky hill. oops I guess this means that it's time for a solid axle swap
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Mopar 4-ever
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4/16/2004
12:27:51
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Dirty Durango. You're outta control. How bad is your truck hurt?
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dirty durango
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4/16/2004
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The front and rear axle housings are busted, front drive shaft is bent, radiator blown. missing three windows, and the roof is a little closer to the passengers than original. The transfor case is in about 20 pieces, oil pan has a hole in it about the size of a softball, and the gas tank is missing the bottom half. Other than that it is good as new. The only good news is that I found a front and rear Dana 60 in a junk yard for 300.00 total just needs new gears and lockers.
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Mopar 4-ever
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4/16/2004
18:49:27
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I'm sorry I asked. As long as you're O.K. is what matters. I guess it wasn't the good Lord's time to take you so I guess He would want you to do some more 'wheelin'. Just don't go ballhootin' down any more hills like that anymore. I'm glad you're keeping a good attitude about this. Have you seen Full Throttle Suspension's Durango yet? Almost 3 feet of lift and 49 inch Swamper Iroks. That will give you something to shoot for with your solid axle swap. Not being mean, but you should have a roll-cage installed, too. I've gone rolling myself in a '72 Plymouth Scamp hot-rod and it ain't no fun. Good luck and keep us all posted on your progress.
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Levey
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4/16/2004
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Sorry to hear about that wheeling incident DirtyD. Although im sure it was quite an adrenaline rush tumbling down that hill. Good luck with the Solidaxle swap..I cant wait to do one. Keep us updated on that with lots of pics, Id love to see how it turns out.
...you wouldnt by chance want to sell that old suspension kit would ya, or did the accident totally tear it apart??
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dirty durango
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4/16/2004
23:54:45
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if their was anything left of the suspension and body lift that could be reused I would be happy to sell them. However to get the axle's out I had to take a cutting torch to everything that wasn't already busted apart. So in other words their isn't much left of the lifts except for some bolt parts and half of one leaf spring.
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Dude
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4/17/2004
00:42:18
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Dirty....sorry to hear about the flip...good to hear that you're ok though.
This goes for Mopar as well
Thanks for the advice. Even though I wanted to stay away from a body lift, b/c sometime in the future I wanted to add a brushguard and step bars w/o having to mod them as well. But I guess if I want 35's and those other goodies, I better learn how to weld.
As far as tire width, I was wanting to go somewhere around 12.50 to 13.50, but the wider I go the more trimming I have to do. Errr!
Thanks for the help!
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draugluin
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4/18/2004
18:28:22
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Deccent rock tire, but not a great mud tire, unless you are running 4.56 + Gear.
I run 35 MTR's on my Jeep Cherokee, with a 6.5 inch sky jacker lift, they do pretty good.
But as far as lifting the dak, a 5.5 Tuff Country might be good, but I would rather go with a 3 in Body lift, and a Rancho 3 Inch Sup lift. That's just me.
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Turk
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Has anyone ever put 38 inch tires on a 94 dakota without
changing the front axel. Ive put a body lif on and can clear
the body but am rubbing the frame. Any suggestions?
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