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janesy
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10/06/2003
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it is very easy to find, it is directly behind the head on the passenger side.
Just a tip, for people with the older daks(mine's a 93) the sencor bracket is plastic not steel. The plastic has two round bushings for the bolts. The plastic is very britle and can easily break. They new sencor cost me $136 Canadian, and that was trade. This mod is not worth that much money! I saw no benifit from it not even butt dyno, but the new metal bracket was much easier to work with
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360dak
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10/06/2003
20:37:49
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why do you think that this mod was suggested for 2000 and newer trucks? it was suggested for a reason. i can see no reason for you to do it unless you have a 2000+ pcm in your 1993 dakota. which i highly doubt.
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Canook
Dodge Dakota
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10/06/2003
20:41:26
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u will half to over l@@k him
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Buck
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10/06/2003
22:23:24
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Janesy...On my 95 the sensor bracket was metal. Guess it could be a 50/50 chance to have the metal or plastic.
Gen II Geoff....I will look around and see what I can find in the shop. Im not positive where i put them. If I find them they are yours.
Buck
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MikeS
Dodge Dakota
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10/07/2003
10:57:51
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what fuel is required after this is completed 89 or 91-93?
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Kowalski
Dodge Dakota
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10/07/2003
17:01:11
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That could depend on many things; what your baseline advance was, wether you tow or haul, even your altitude. I advanced the timing in my 4.7 in a different way, through a PCM flash but principle is the same and I only need the good stuff for towing.
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janesy
Dodge Dakota
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10/08/2003
15:59:41
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360dak...
"This will work on any Dodge truck 92- to present except for the 4.7L or the V-10."
That came from krcperformance, funny, i don't see the part about 2000 and newer. Maybe that's because the crank position sencor is the same thing on all the magnums(aside from the 4.7 and v10), don't flame if you don't know what your talking about.Tool.
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GraphiteDak
GenIII
10/08/2003
22:32:37
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So on my '03 4.7 the only way is with a PCM flash?
Anybody know what there is available for the 4.7 as far as PCM that is worth it or even a way to do it ourself with a programmer???
Keep in mind that I do TOW. I'd put in 92 octane when I tow if I had to.
2003 Graphite QC 4X4 4.7 Auto 3.55
Home Brewed Cold Air Intake, Flowmaster 40 series, Modified TPS to .72VDC, Modified IAT. 160° T-Stat.
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Grant
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10/08/2003
23:26:19
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Im not sure if my truck has been death flashed or not, but it sure seems sluggish to me. Is it a problem to do this mod if the truck hasnt been flashed, or should i only do it if i know its been flashed for sure??
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HELP
Dodge Dakota
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10/09/2003
02:36:46
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Alright guys im convinced now that I dont have a crank sensor at all. I looked from the top and from the bottom and I don't see any wires going to a sensor anywhere behind the passenger side head. As far as wires I only see the 2 wires that go to each pre cat. O btw I was wondering if I were to remove the precats, that would mean getting new headers and two kat boxes? There are two sensors going to each precat and the cat boxes that i remember seeing didnt have two outputs. Someone please help me out on both of these subjects. WHERE IS MY CRANK SENSOR DAMNIT and also keep in mind that working under the truck is very hard since I have the Hotchkis drop on my truck.
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Buck
Dodge Dakota
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10/09/2003
07:32:43
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you probably wont be able to see it from the bottom. You will have to get to it from the top.
Buck
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Troy
Dodge Dakota
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10/09/2003
15:11:20
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Alright guys I have my crank sensor off im just stuck on how to slot the holes can someone please give me some advice/help or make a diagram???
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MikeS
Dodge Dakota
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10/09/2003
15:59:36
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use a circular file or a dremmel tool
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Troy
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10/09/2003
16:53:07
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Alright finished everything. Im not really impressed with the mod. But o well it was free heh
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janesy
Dodge Dakota
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10/09/2003
20:04:43
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help... You can't get it from under the truck.
Look dirctly behind the passengers side head. It bolts through a slot in your bellhousing, and the bracket sits on the bock. Try using some degreaser back there, you may only see a plate about three inches long, with two bolts(or allen head). That is the sencor bracket, the sencor itself goes down into the bellhousing.
The wires clip into a harness that sits behind or on the other side of the distributer. The wires may likely be under the firewall, laying ontop of the tranny bellhousing.
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brandon
Dodge Dakota
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10/10/2003
00:51:20
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Does anyone have a diagram for this or a picture. I have a 2003 and even with all the help still have not been able to locate it.
-Brandon
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Troy
Dodge Dakota
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10/11/2003
03:10:17
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I completed the mod. I took the sensor out and slotted it to the right so the sensor shifts left if you are facing the front of the truck. I noticed it idled higher but also a decrease in performance. I didnt slot it the other way so I could put it back to stock which i did. Seems to run better. The mod definatly wasnt worth the hassle or time. Good thing it was free, otherwise id be pissed
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Tom
Dodge Dakota
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10/11/2003
10:24:31
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On your timing mod (Troy)...Sounds like you did it correctly. I'm assuming you took the rubber grommet out..right? Mine went from idling at 11 degrees of timing to 15 degrees. I had to drive it for about 20-30 for the computer to adjust. It then spins the tires at will from a stop. Keep in mind after it warms up the "Torque Management" will kick in and control the wheel spin. You should notice a little more power thru the rpms. I felt a difference off idle, midrange, and top end.
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GraphiteDak
GenIII
10/11/2003
12:24:53
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<b>Torque Management</b>, I didn't know Dodge Dakotas had such a thing!?!
If it does, what Dakotas (such as my 4X4) and if so is it thru the tranny logic or engine control?
I've still never heard of a Dodge truck having such. PLease explain.
2003 Graphite QC 4X4 4.7 Auto 3.55
Home Brewed Cold Air Intake, Flowmaster 40 series, Modified TPS to .72VDC, Modified IAT. 160° T-Stat.
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Troy
Dodge Dakota
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10/11/2003
15:36:27
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SO Tom basically what you are saying is that I should give it another try by readjusting it again, resetting the cpu and try driving it around a little while???
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