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Jeremy
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5/22/2003
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Ok i dont now what is goin on here but i would like some help on why my truck is not turning good 1/4 mile times, i have 2002 rt rc, with spare tiree out and 1/4 tank of gas, following mods intense performance intake, 180 stat, msd, msd coil, jba plug wires, m1 with extra large turtle, harland sharp roller rockers, this is the way i shift my truck start in 2 with overdrive off and shift into drrrive at 5000-5200 range heres the time slip
r/t .702
60'2.276
330 6.285
1/8 9.618
mph 73.70
1000 12.5
1/4 14.954
mph 92.07
temp 57
humidty 71
now i ran a best of 15.2 last year stock so i have no clue what is goin on here but it seems like it should be way faster
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Anthony G
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5/22/2003
14:27:16
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Intake good for 5500rpms
Cam good for idle-4400-4600rpms
You have the death flash and torque managment so you have crap power from idle to 3200 then you cam dies off quick so that leaves you with a 1200-1400rpms sweet power band which isn't much.
Try keeping your O/D off and let it shift for you at 4800rpms. Your pulling around 150hp at the wheel around 5000-5200rpms so that's not going to pull you down the 1/4 fast. Try getting a PCM and a cam then your be pulling low 14's to 13's.
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TJ
Dodge Dakota
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5/22/2003
14:40:20
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I have the same year R/T but CC. I have pretty much the same mods as you except the ignition and wires. Just curious, did the msd, coil, and wires make a difference that you can tell in your truck? I haven't run mine in the 1/4 yet.
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Jeremy
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5/22/2003
15:15:49
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The truck feels way more beter than it did stock, but i just cant understand, my buddy has a 2000 cc rt witha kn intake and computer and he runs a 14.7 at the same track it just is amazing
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TJ
Dodge Dakota
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5/22/2003
17:59:34
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Yeah if its the mopar pcm, I believe it. I think our problem is we cant take full advantage of our mods without some kind of pcm upgrade. I was thinking the B&G flash but $550 for a flash seems kinda steep to me.
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islanderpc
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5/22/2003
18:14:28
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you ran a 2.276 60'.
not good traction.
bring that down to 2.0 and you'll run maybe 2-4 tenths faster.
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Jeremy
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5/22/2003
18:17:17
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TJ kenee bell will do it for 330, yeah i noticed that it did spin alot off the line but how do you not make it spin, i have a mp 2100 stall that i havent put in yet will that help
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islanderpc
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5/22/2003
18:21:06
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below is from another RT'er.
I spray a 150 shot out of the hole with MT ET Streets 28X11.5X15. The only thing I have done to the suspension is 1" blocks.
12.2 at 110 mph
1.7 60'.
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islanderpc
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5/22/2003
18:24:31
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also you have to learn to launch.
and some tracks stick better than others.
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BrianY 02 R/T
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5/22/2003
18:39:36
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Put your spare back under the truck to give it a bit more wieght on the rear tires. If you put that converter in you will need a good tire to hook. BFG drag radial or MT ET streets on some 15 inch rims. That stock pcm for the 02 is a piece of crap. I hope mopar comes out with somthing for it soon
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islanderpc
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5/22/2003
20:18:57
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mopar isn't making a pcm for the 01 up far as i know.
BG flash is best you can get.
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RaZoR1
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5/23/2003
10:37:47
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I think that that "other RTer's" that islanderpc is talking about is full of sh#t. A shot of 150 is not going to get ya that low into the 12's.
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islanderpc
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5/23/2003
11:11:09
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....go to the delphi RT forum look up Connor who is the moderator there it's his truck he'll have the time slip and people there that watched.
I don't post anything i'm not pretty sure about.
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Diabolic
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5/23/2003
11:45:21
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Superchips just released their new tuner yesterday for the R/T. Their #s are max hp 46.9@ 5300, and max tq 59.4 @2200rpm. Peak hp 18.1@ 4100 and peak tq 29.5@3500. Very good #'s under the curve. Don't know if it works on an 02, but I think it does. I have an 01. 30 day unconditional money back guarantee!
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TJ
Dodge Dakota
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5/23/2003
12:10:04
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I just went to the superchips sight and they claim 22 hp and 35ft lbs torque increase for $419.00. Under features all they claim it does is raise the speed and rev limiter and allows for speedometer corrections. For another $150 to 200 I'd say the B&G flash is the way to go. Remove torque management, move wot shift points to 5400rpm, move slow speed shift points to 2500rpm, raise speed limiter to 135mph, and adjust fuel/spark curve. But hey, thats just my 2 cents...
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Diabolic
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5/23/2003
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Those #'s are for the Ram's and not Dakota/Durango I believe. They sent me a graph on an 01 R/T. That's where I got the #'s I posted. Graph is posted on the Delpi R/T fprum.
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TJ
Dodge Dakota
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5/23/2003
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TJ
Dodge Dakota
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5/23/2003
12:24:16
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The above post came directly from the superchips site.
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Diabolic
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5/23/2003
12:36:11
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The graph they sent me show an increase of tq from 2000-3500rpm of 58ft/lbs down to 30#'s at 3500 rpm, and from 33500-5300 about 34#'s as an average. Difference in hp at 2500 rpm was 116.9 vs. 140 hp. Even at 5300 rpm it was 143.9 hp vs.190hp
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Lello
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5/23/2003
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B & G is the way to go....you pay more for a reason but get the 'M1' flash only. fyi, it does not raise the low speed shift to 2500 as posted........unless it was done by Dave for you custom?? It gives more timing for bottom end/midrange, top speed increase, shifts at 5400, zero emission at idle etc..... fyi, I do have it on my '02 CC R/T.
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Diabolic
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5/23/2003
16:30:39
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Yeah but I have an extended warranty and I intend to use it fully. The stupid dealership will just reflash my computer for spite! $600 bones down the crapper.
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Buddy
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5/23/2003
16:32:11
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islanderpc, that dude's full of it. He could hit about a 12.8 max under perfect conditions.
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Lello
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5/23/2003
16:35:46
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I don't believe in dealers unless absolutely necessary...even though I have a 3 year warranty. I did make a detailed lamicoid plate which I attached to my pcm connections saying " DO NOT REFLASH without owner notification - This PCM has been flashed by B&G Chysler Specials in Warran, Michigan...with phone number and date" Basically says DO NOT TOUCH!!!!
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Diabolic
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5/23/2003
18:50:29
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That's a good idea. I was referring to thinmgs like a busted tranny, or a blown up motor. Things I don't wanna drop coin on.
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