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slow r/t man
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4/07/2003
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Anybody here used these? How do you like it?
Anybody used the Mopar 2400 stall? and how did you like that one? thanks in advance
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Ryan
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4/08/2003
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My friend installed a mopar torque converter on his 2000 CC R/T and he loves it. Says he really noticed a difference. You can get one at www.v8performance.com
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Buzz
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4/08/2003
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APS is much better than the mopar... will add stall w/o adding the unwanted heat from sloppy tolerances (aka mopar) will have higher torque multiplication and is about 6% more efficient... this means 6% more power to the rear wheels. your call. little more $$$ but makes the truck faster and will help save the tranny...
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Joe
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4/08/2003
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Thanks Buzz, AKA mxblue, AKA Tom Slick, AKA Wayne440. Still using your old tricks to push APS I see.
Slow R/T,
If you liked the Speedtweaks crew, you'll love the APS folks... Half of them are the same people. You'll find some details here:
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/gen/10683.html
The link at the end of that thread somehow miraculously got deleted. Wonder why?? Maybe because it proved Buzz=mxblue=Tom Slick=Wayne440? Or maybe because it proved the connection between APS and Speedtweaks? Good thing I saved some of it;-)
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Joe
2/24/2003
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What's funny to me is, everytime "wayne440" or APS shows up on a thread, here comes bernd and "tom slick" out of hiding.
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Lurker
2/24/2003
16:11:10
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Joe is right. After searching:
Wayne440 = Tom Slick = IntenseDak39
They all show up at the same time... They all write like this... Wayne440 and Speedtweaks' websites are exactly the same... They all laugh like this... he he he... coincidence... I don't think so... These dots... and the he he he... give them away...
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IntenseDak39
2/24/2003
16:26:29
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wow that was clever
too bad i dont even know who wayne is and i think tom's lazy ass ruined speedtweaks by sitting his ass on the computer playing video games everyday instead of helping bernd answer phones, working on trucks, and shipping product out.
ever wonder why the phone was never answered?
oh and
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he he he
Turbocharged V6
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Lurker
2/24/2003
16:31:36
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Here are a few threads... look at the style of writing... just like this... just like wayne440... he he he
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/per/3848.html
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/v6/1384.html
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/v6/1373.html
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/v6/1093-1.html
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/v6/1162.html
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Lurker
2/24/2003
16:46:09
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And don't forget to compare their style from this current thread... hit previous page and compare... he he he...
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Joe
2/24/2003
18:40:12
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LMAO! Could this be the end of the Speedtweaks crime ring?? I agree that "Wayne440 = Tom Slick = IntenseDak39", but you forgot to add "Buzz" to the list of aliases. No telling how many more sock puppets they are using. Talk about soap operas!
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/per/6986.html
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/v8/1609.html
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/v8/2795.html
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/per/6384.html
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/v8/2752.html
http://www.dodgedakota.net/boards/per/6865.html
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figitdotcom
2/24/2003
19:08:31
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oh man .. this is some enron shate'
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Joe
2/24/2003
22:50:46
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Or compare them for yourself. Even an idiot on this site will be able to tell that they are the same person.
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figitdotcom
2/24/2003
23:02:29
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Joe I was just kidding, I started the damn warning on APS TB's and posted the idea to revive old ST threads so that newbies would be notified to stay away from ST even though dd.com states right on the homepage "As a member you will recieve special members only discounts in the Dakota Store as well as on SpeedTweaks.net." which led to waybertom getting involved and the whole fiasco. Trust me man I know the deal.
The wild thing is as it stands go to google.com and punch in speadtweaks .. the number 6 listing is a negative DodgeDakotas.com post on them! with all this newly generated content about both Speedtweaks and APS Precision it will only be a matter of time before google indexes again and they'll be left fighting to keep their ranking above the negative posts on this site! Ironic or what. ahhhh then factor in that I own the domains
APSPRECISION.NET
APSPRECISION.US
APSSUCKS.COM
APSPRECISION.ORG
APSPRECISION.BIZ
and the search engine game could get really interesting ... hey Jonas, interested in some redirects?? : O ) we need a cervinis group buy haha
-m
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Joe
2/24/2003
23:33:03
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figit,
I just went to the other forums and did a search for apsprecision. Good call! Looks like another "Speedtweaks" rip off is going to happen by reading those posts. He is also using his sock puppets (Buzz/mxblue23, tom slick, etc.) to con people on those sites too. Can't wait for all the whiny "APS, where's my money" posts.
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Buzz
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4/08/2003
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I use the name mxblue23 on other sites.. I am in Irvine, CA... Wayne 440 is an APS employee in San Jose area... I have no affiliation with APS or speed tweaks... I use his parts and have been really happy with them... don't know who the other guys are.
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Joe
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4/08/2003
14:13:49
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Ok Wayne...
It was entertaining to prove the APS crap the first time around, but I won't waste my time to prove it again. Wonder why that post was deleted?? Anyway, all someone would have to do is run a search for either buzz or mxblue23, and apsprecision on this and the other forums and they will see that you are Wayne. Also, anyone noticed that the APS website is the exact same design as Speedtweaks, and even has some of the exact same pages on it? You can gamble hundreds of dollars, but I won't.
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Buzz
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4/08/2003
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dude, I am not wayne.. I go to school at UC Irvine, have no affiliation with any companies... people ask for my opinion and I state it... sorry I understand the mechanics of a tranny and what makes a good product.. you can get the same qualtiy product from a Viper or other good converter.. but they are way more $$$... I know people on this site who have met me who will tell you I am who I say I am.
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Wayne440
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4/08/2003
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APS has nothing to do with Speedtweaks other then during their Hayday they used to sell our parts till they got into trouble, ran out of money and couldn't pay APS for them anymore...
PS Wayne440 is not Tom Slick or Bernd so all you inspector Clouseau's are quite incorrect
The real problem here is the APS Parts are proving themselves to be good value and awesome performance... And we are making some small time Backyard Machine Shop Operations shops nervous
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Wayne440
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4/08/2003
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APS has nothing to do with Speedtweaks other then during their Hayday they used to sell our parts till they got into trouble, ran out of money and couldn't pay APS for them anymore...
PS Wayne440 is not Tom Slick or Bernd so all you inspector Clouseau's are quite incorrect
The real problem here is the APS Parts are proving themselves to be good value and awesome performance... And we are making some small time Backyard Machine Shop Operations shops nervous
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Joe
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4/08/2003
15:08:07
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Wow, what's this? Conveniently Wayne440 shows up 1/2 hour later. I never said Wayne440 was Bernd. Again, Wayne440=Buzz=mxblue23=Tom Slick. Nothing to do with Speedtweaks huh? Why does Bernd push APS every chance he gets? Why is the APS website the same as Speedtweaks'?? How did you get the exact pages from Speedtweaks website onto yours? You also use the same "forums" marketing scam as Speedtweaks did. How many more sock puppets do you use?
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HSKR
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4/08/2003
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Damn, DD.com's very own conspiracy theory junkies at work. You people have way to much time on your hands to dream up such strange things. As Buzz and Wayne both mentioned, APS is it's very onw company, and the only affiliation with Speedtweaks was SPeedtweaks sold thier products after ever other distributor stopped selling to SpeedTweaks due to lack of payment. APS is a very stand up compnay and I know a few people who use thier products with good success.
As far as comparing the quality of the Mopar to the APS, and Viper converters, you got your story a little mixed up. I'm sure the APS ones are better than Mopar, but I'ce talked to a couple different tranny shops that have said the Viper converters are sh*t compared to some others including the Mopar converter.
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Wayne440
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4/08/2003
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My open comment to all is APS is its own entity... SpeedTweaks has NOTHING to do with us... Bernd has been very enthusiastic about our parts because they worked well... He had sold other parts that were problematic but not ours... We try very hard to make great stuff at a reasonable price... We use better materials then the competitors and have larger more up to date facilities filled with state of the art machine tools… We do things the Backyard Machine Shop can’t do nor could one reasonably expect them to do… This is fact not fiction… So why not quit with the character assassinations and the guessing games... Try our parts... If they don’t work and we don’t make it right for you as the customer... Then you have the right to complain... However to make negative blanket statements without proof only makes one look completely ridiculous or some shameless shill for some other competitor…
One last item APS is on the West Coast and SpeedTweaks is in Texas… I don’t know about you but that’s along way to commute to work… Doesn’t make sense that Bernd would do that now does it…
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Randy
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4/08/2003
18:38:39
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Why not answer his questions then, Wayne... he he he
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Joe
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Or just disappear along with your sock puppets for awhile like you did last time, hoping everyone would forget. I bet you had NOTHING to do with getting rid of that post that proved you were using many different aliases to scam people to buy from you.
Once again, if APS has NOTHING to do with Speedtweaks, why is the APS website the same as Speedtweaks' and how did you get the exact pages from the Speedtweaks website onto yours?
And about your "one last item", the internet brings us all together, no matter where we are. No need for a commute.
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Wayne440
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4/08/2003
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Buzz is not Wayne440
MxBlue is not Wayne440
And to Joe why do I need to explain to you why Bernd's website has similarity to APS's Website... Who the hell are you to think that I need to tell you a thing... your nothing more then some mindless miscreant in a chat room… I will tell you this much it’s none of your business
To all others do you not think vendors supply information to resellers such as website content?... Do you think resellers have the depth of knowledge to accurately describe a manufactures product on their own?... APS makes good products and we sell a lot... And we strive to have 100% customer satisfaction
Furthermore to the two or three hecklers, why to you make this fight your own?... What APS Product do you personally own that hasn't performed as promised?... Be specific with order numbers so it can be verified...
So why not show everyone here exactly how APS has wronged you... PUT UP OR SHUT UP
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slow r/t man
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4/08/2003
20:21:55
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I don't know what kind of god damn can of worms I opened, I just want some feedback from people that have tried either one of the converters. If you don't own one don't F#CKING post. Whats the real deal on these things? If the asp converter is the better peice than I'll buy the mother f#cker. Simple question.
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Wayne440
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4/08/2003
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Write to www.apsprecision.com we will hook you up with folks running our parts... Then you decide from that input
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Wayne440
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4/08/2003
21:05:26
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Write to www.apsprecision.com we will hook you up with folks running our parts... Then you decide from that input
info@apsprecision.com
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