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kicker01
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5/13/2001
00:42:48

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Could I please get some knowledgable posts in reference to the difference between "Limited Slip Differencial" and "Anti-Spin Differencial." I have people telling me that their the same thing but named differently. I have a '01 RC 4.7 5spd 3.55 anti-spin rearend, I havent baked the tires yet to find out for myself if only "one wheel" is going to spin while the other does nothing... HELP!



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5/13/2001
01:15:14

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They are the same thing. Every company has it's own name for a locking rear end plus over the years people have stuck their names on them (such as positive traction). There is different ways to build the locking mechanism but they are all locking rear ends.

Wayne Van Metre
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5/13/2001
08:57:13

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They are the same thing with different names.



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5/13/2001
08:58:26

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Like I said in the chat room, and in case anyone else is wondering, They are the same. Wayne hit the nail on the head. Anti-spin is Dodge's name for a limited slip. Posi traction was the name that GM coined for their limited slips. Ford has usually just refered to them as limited slips. A limited slip is NOT the same as a locker.

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5/13/2001
10:19:23

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If I remember right sure-grip was the correct name for mopar diff. but that was a long time ago 98R/T kenne bell supercharged

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5/13/2001
12:49:24

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in 99 sales info calls it limited slip, the shop manual refers to it as trac-loc.

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5/13/2001
13:09:00

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Yeah I forgot that one. Thats another Ford phrase. They used (don't know if they still do or not) Auburn limited slips and called them trac locks. Dodge used them for a little while too.

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5/13/2001
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Thank you all for responding. I looked at the rear axle today and a sticker on it says 3.55 TRAC LOCK, probably another name for it.
What other rear ends are available for Dakota's??



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5/13/2001
19:21:39

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The 3.55 is your gear ratio. If you mean what other rear ends as in gear size, if yours is the 9 1/4 inch, which it should be, then you can get a 3.92 and a 4.10 that I know of. I don't think there are any other sizes available yet. If you have the 8 1/4 then I'm not sure.

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1/12/2002
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How can I tell if my 1995 Dodge Ram 1500 has a Trac Lock rear end. I know it is a 9 1/4- 3.55
Thanks Bill



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1/12/2002
15:42:43

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Put it in neutral lift only one of the rear wheels off of the ground and try to spin the wheel. If it has a trac loc in it the wheel will not turn.

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1/12/2002
23:14:57

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Incase CW was to clear on this... he means "try to spin the wheel *by hand* "... not with the engine.

Another way to tell if you have TRAC-LOC is to read the metal "tag" underneath one of the bolts holding the cover on the rear differental.



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1/12/2002
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Good point.

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1/13/2002
09:58:34

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Look at the sticker on inside of glove box, tells what gears you have and the ratio along with if it is a locking diff.and more codes as well.



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1/15/2002
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does anyone have a used trac-loc they want to
sell for a 9 1/4 rear end w/3.55 gears? I have
seen a couple on ebay, but they are for the
8 1/4 rear end. I really dont want to spend
$400 on a new one, so any info would help!



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1/16/2002
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D, what you putting it on? I have the smaller one with 3.92 ls in my '99 Dakota CC. It has held up well drag racing, pulling trailers, etc. for 43000 miles.



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1/16/2002
22:13:55

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How to tell you have anti spin diff.

One tire in the grass and the other on the pavement. Punch it! If they both spin it's a posi.

This is more fun and no jack time. BUT PLEASE USE YOUR OWN YARD FOR THE PROCEDURE!



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1/17/2002
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Or if you don't want to tare up your (someone else's) yard, you can jack up your rear tires and if they both spend the same direction, it's a limited slip or locker.

98 RC V6 auto modifications: LOTS ! ! !

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8/05/2003
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What gear oil do you run with the limited slip rear end ?? Is straight Mobil1 ok or do you have to put an additive in it like the manuel says ??



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8/05/2003
15:57:54

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you should add an additive if one does not come with... read the bottle

1998 Regular Cab V6 Auto

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8/05/2003
16:13:57

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You can get the additive from the dealer. They are little bottles and cost $8 or so each. I have two in mine with Royal Purple oil.

-Mark Hryckiewicz
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8/05/2003
19:05:23

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I have a question about the additive, my truck is a 99 and has 46k miles on three occasions over the last four years the rear axle starts to moan and creak. The first time I used the Mopar fluid and additive, and the last two i used a synthetic fluid and the Mopar additive. What gives ?, is this common ?, it is like the additive wears out ? It is hard to belive it needs to be on its fourth fluid fill. Maybe I can just add the modifier next time ?



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8/05/2003
19:36:51

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what exactly are the noises its making and when does it make them (hitting the gas, letting off, always.. etc.)

dang mark, you been frisky with your posting today!! :-D

1998 Regular Cab V6 Auto

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8/05/2003
20:05:06

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IntenseDak... Yes I am. There are a lot of interesting topics.

-Mark Hryckiewicz
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8/06/2003
07:57:07

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You notice it when the truck has sit over night, then back out of the drive, especially when turning. The sound is like the rear brakes are shot and the linings are draging on the drums, and you can feel a slight vibration, but this was checked and a-ok.



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8/06/2003
08:09:56

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Glad to see you posting again mark!

jtha03

start simple and dont expect the worst... but dont rule it out. You have many bearings that can be check and different parts. Check the axle bearings and carrier bearings. Also, i dont know if you mentioned it but if you have a limited slip, it might of spun some of the clutch pack.

with the brakes, did you just check them or did you replace them? If not, i would have the drums turned and new shoes put on... never hurts to have new brakes. Also check your parking brake adjustment.

just to through some ideas at you.

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8/06/2003
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Okay so my truck (2002 4x4) has the Sure Grip Anti Spin diff however it only lays one strip of rubber... what's up with that? Always on the passenger side... wtf?



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8/06/2003
10:59:01

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If it is only laying one strip then you do not have limited slip. Open Diffs will always spin the passenger side tire. Sounds like yours was mis-labeled. Sucks man. I'd take it back to the dealership and have them sort that out.



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8/06/2003
12:04:26

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AntiSpin: jack up the back and turn one wheel. If the other turns in the opposite direction then you have an open rear. Sometimes when the two wheels have uneven traction, one will spin more than the other.

-Mark Hryckiewicz
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8/06/2003
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That is unreal and I'm pissed off... this is a 4x4 and I bought it with the LSD in mind... why then do you suppose on a dirt road when I nail it, it leaves two marks in the dirt as if both were spinning?



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8/06/2003
14:20:21

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So I just checked the truck and in the glove compartment it says Corporate 9 and the invoice says Corporate 8.25 so who da phuq knows... oddly enough I couldn't find anything anywhere on the invoice saying Anti Spin or Sure Grip... funny because when I asked the dealer I told him that I needed the "posi track" rear end... I feel robbed... next question would be... what are my options? something cheap yet effective... dealers can eat my azz...



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