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xplikt
GenIII
10/17/2002
14:13:04
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 Subject: 4.7L Timing Advance
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Has anyone played with the timing on the 4.7L yet? My radiator/fan assembly is off and I have the change to mess with mine, but I am wondering if anyone has had anyluck with advancing it a couple degrees?
-Mike
http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out, straight piped 3rd cat, turndown tip
Hotchkis swaybars and springs
Bilstein custom tuned shocks
Roadmaster Active Suspension
Shaved emblems and antennae
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Lab Rat
GenIII
10/17/2002
14:33:58
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Besides getting a flash, how?? Altering the crank sensor?
LR
Gibson Dual Sport, AirForce One air intake, Jet II, Jet TBS, 180 stat, IAT, TPS, no viscous fan, Lakewood traction bars, "Wilson" antenna ball...when are we gonna see some real parts??!!
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Canucker
Dodge Dakota
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10/17/2002
14:42:01
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yeah .. if you've discovered a way to adjust it without a flash .. please do tell!
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xplikt
GenIII
10/17/2002
18:30:40
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Well yeah, can you alter the sensor?
-Mike
http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out, straight piped 3rd cat, turndown tip
Hotchkis swaybars and springs
Bilstein custom tuned shocks
Roadmaster Active Suspension
Shaved emblems and antennae
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xplikt
GenIII
10/17/2002
18:31:30
| RE: 4.7L Timing Advance
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Well yeah, can you alter the sensor?
-Mike
http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out, straight piped 3rd cat, turndown tip
Hotchkis swaybars and springs
Bilstein custom tuned shocks
Roadmaster Active Suspension
Shaved emblems and antennae
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Canucker
Dodge Dakota
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10/17/2002
18:54:31
| RE: 4.7L Timing Advance
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what sensor? the crank position sensor? Have you looked at it?
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CW
GenIII
10/17/2002
19:20:02
|  RE: 4.7L Timing Advance
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Whoa guys don't get too excited.;) The crank sensor is in the block. It has a hole that goes into the crank case so altering it is almost impossible. The ICON ignition controller is the only way I know of.
4.7 HO, CW style
2001 4.7 5sp 3.92 LSD
Ported 68mm TB, IAT adjuster, 3" flowmaster cat back, TPS @ .76V, 4" Z-tube, Roadmaster active suspention, Removed Third cat, Electric fan Convertion, HO cams, Robert shaw 180 therm, HO intake manifold.
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Lab Rat
GenIII
10/17/2002
19:32:50
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CW, that's a new one to me-what's an ICON??
LR
PS-you still toying with that intake? I'm looking for someone who has dimensioned the bottom side that mates to the heads.
Gibson Dual Sport, AirForce One air intake, Jet II, Jet TBS, 180 stat, IAT, TPS, no viscous fan, Lakewood traction bars, "Wilson" antenna ball...when are we gonna see some real parts??!!
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Ian
Dodge Dakota
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10/17/2002
19:53:32
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Lab Rat...do you recommend the air force one intake?
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Lab Rat
GenIII
10/17/2002
20:09:29
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Given the choice again, I would have done different. Biggest problem is no CARB exemption. It does have an advantage in length-shorter tube with one bend can mean less air pressure drop compared to longer tubes of the same diameter and with more bends. One thing I am planning is to box in the element and duct fresh air from the side of the condenser.
Price is right, I must say, and it looks and sounds good (with my exhaust it sends mommies running for their kids). Combined with the exhaust there are very noticeable gains.
Sorry to the others for off-topic.
LR
Gibson Dual Sport, AirForce One air intake, Jet II, Jet TBS, 180 stat, IAT, TPS, no viscous fan, Lakewood traction bars, "Wilson" antenna ball...when are we gonna see some real parts??!!
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CW
GenIII
10/17/2002
21:20:21
| RE: 4.7L Timing Advance
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ICON ignition controller is a separate overlay computer that wires into your truck. It has a laptop interface and lets you program in any spark curve that you want. Any ammount of retard or advance.
ICON
4.7 HO, CW style
2001 4.7 5sp 3.92 LSD
Ported 68mm TB, IAT adjuster, 3" flowmaster cat back, TPS @ .76V, 4" Z-tube, Roadmaster active suspention, Removed Third cat, Electric fan Convertion, HO cams, Robert shaw 180 therm, HO intake manifold.
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xplikt
GenIII
10/17/2002
21:49:54
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Has anyone used an ICON on the 4.7? Hell, at all?
-Mike
http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out, straight piped 3rd cat, turndown tip
Hotchkis swaybars and springs
Bilstein custom tuned shocks
Roadmaster Active Suspension
Shaved emblems and antennae
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CW
GenIII
10/17/2002
22:57:01
| RE: 4.7L Timing Advance
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I haven't heard of anyone using it other than Bernd. Almost bought one a little while ago.
4.7 HO, CW style
2001 4.7 5sp 3.92 LSD
Ported 68mm TB, IAT adjuster, 3" flowmaster cat back, TPS @ .76V, 4" Z-tube, Roadmaster active suspention, Removed Third cat, Electric fan Convertion, HO cams, Robert shaw 180 therm, HO intake manifold.
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Lab Rat
GenIII
10/17/2002
23:01:58
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Do you have a link to their website? Did a general search and can't find them.
LR
Gibson Dual Sport, AirForce One air intake, Jet II, Jet TBS, 180 stat, IAT, TPS, no viscous fan, Lakewood traction bars, "Wilson" antenna ball...when are we gonna see some real parts??!!
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CW
GenIII
10/18/2002
09:03:15
| RE: 4.7L Timing Advance
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Up 2 posts before this one the, underlined ICON is a link.
4.7 HO, CW style
2001 4.7 5sp 3.92 LSD
Ported 68mm TB, IAT adjuster, 3" flowmaster cat back, TPS @ .76V, 4" Z-tube, Roadmaster active suspention, Removed Third cat, Electric fan Convertion, HO cams, Robert shaw 180 therm, HO intake manifold.
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Lab Rat
GenIII
10/18/2002
09:36:18
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Thanks, CW.
LR
Gibson Dual Sport, AirForce One air intake, Jet II, Jet TBS, 180 stat, IAT, TPS, no viscous fan, Lakewood traction bars, "Wilson" antenna ball...when are we gonna see some real parts??!!
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Canucker
Dodge Dakota
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10/18/2002
10:50:25
| RE: 4.7L Timing Advance
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That's interesting ... it says though that it hooks up to the ignition coil .. which might make us SOL since we have 8 of them.
I sent them an email to see if its compatible with the 4.7L.
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CW
GenIII
10/18/2002
14:24:14
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Good point I never even thought of that. I was assuming it was intercepting the crank sensor but never really looked at it that close I guess.
4.7 HO, CW style
2001 4.7 5sp 3.92 LSD
Ported 68mm TB, IAT adjuster, 3" flowmaster cat back, TPS @ .76V, 4" Z-tube, Roadmaster active suspention, Removed Third cat, Electric fan Convertion, HO cams, Robert shaw 180 therm, HO intake manifold.
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xplikt
GenIII
10/18/2002
15:33:18
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Simple, you'll just need eight of them.
-Mike
http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/
2002 2WD RC SLT 4.7L 5spd 3.92 LSD
MBRP Single in/out, straight piped 3rd cat, turndown tip
Hotchkis swaybars and springs
Bilstein custom tuned shocks
Roadmaster Active Suspension
Shaved emblems and antennae
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Lab Rat
GenIII
10/18/2002
16:17:06
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Let's see...8 x $355=$2840/12=$237/HP.
What a bargain--forget the blower!!!
LR
Gibson Dual Sport, AirForce One air intake, Jet II, Jet TBS, 180 stat, IAT, TPS, no viscous fan, Lakewood traction bars, "Wilson" antenna ball...when are we gonna see some real parts??!!
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Canucker
Dodge Dakota
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10/24/2002
11:30:20
| RE: 4.7L Timing Advance
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Well I finally heard back from ICON or superchips, or whatever ... looks like we are SOL. Here's what they said:
Hi, we checked it out with Superchips, your analysis of your vehicle was correct. You have a system we commonly refer to as COP (Coil On Plug). As a result there a separate control lines for each coil. The ICON is not designed for this.
Sorry, but thank you for your inquiry.
Thank you
Craig
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