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yellow kota
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5/08/2002
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What would be a cheap (if you want to call it that) nitrous system for my Magnum V6. If I got a NOS system for it, would I need to change to any heavier duty engine components??? What type of performance changes can I expect from a NOS system and how long should one tank last me??? Sorry for all of the questions. Just curious.
yellow kota
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bernd
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5/08/2002
22:12:26
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You can run up to a 100HP shot on the V6 (I did for quite a long time). Basic mods should be TB, Headers, Exhaust, 180 T'stat, and quality plugs/cap/rotor/wires. You'll need the Base EFI kit + Bottle warmer to keep the pressure consistent. (Nothing worse than low Nitrous pressure and blowing up an airhat.)
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
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yellow kota
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5/08/2002
22:37:28
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Thanks for the response. Where do you recommend me getting this system and about how much does it cost???
yellow kota
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bernd
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5/09/2002
08:11:53
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NX Base EFI System + Bottle Warmer (minimum): $710
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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FlameRed01
Dodge Dakota
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5/09/2002
10:30:12
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hey bernd im thinkin about buying my nitrous express kit through you, how much for just the nx efi kit for the 3.9?
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bernd
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5/09/2002
12:13:11
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Same price (highly recommend the bottle warmer as well).
1997 Dodge Dakota SLT - V6
Supercharged/Intercooled @ 10# w/Nitrous
14.55 @ 96.01mph
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starscream
Dodge Dakota
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5/09/2002
15:32:47
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Bernd- I was looking at your website. Do you guys sell the NX kits for the V6, and with the bottle warmer? How much for everything and how do i get in touch with you guys for the buy?
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FazDak
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5/09/2002
16:23:50
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I gotta ask starscream, are you on any drugs?
Scott
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jteuton
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5/09/2002
17:57:56
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what does low bottle pressures have to do with blowing off air hats?. I thought low bottle pressures just give you inconsistent et's and inconsistent a/f mixture ratios...(makes it too rich). Blowing an air hat off would relate to running a wet system on a manifold that was never designed to flow fluid and it will puddle up and cause a backfire through the intake at partial throttle with solenoids cutoff ....thus blowing off a airhat assembly....lt1 engines are very bad about doing this.....Does anybody agree?...jteuton
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FazDak
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5/09/2002
18:56:58
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jteuton, do you not know that the base NX for Dodge EFI is a "wet system"? and in that if the N2O pressure is too low you still get the applied shot of fuel and it is unperportional to the N2O?
Scott
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starscream
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5/09/2002
20:50:15
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FazDak: not that its any of your biz, but yes im on drugs. I'm currectly dinking beer, smoking pot, on Vicadin, and something else but i can't put my finger on it. its my day off, and you asked!
But what I meant to say is that their website has no pricing or anyway to do a purchase. I've emailed them a few days ago, but havnt gotten a response.
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jteuton
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5/09/2002
23:01:38
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I thought that would cause the engine to bog down with an excessively rich mixture (added fuel and no n20) but certainly not blow the hat off. I know the system is wet and I don't think the stock 3.9l manifold was designed to flow liquid (the fog of n20 and fuel) thru it. It was designed just for air. So what happens is you hit your shot and light up the tires and there's a slight chance that the mixture will puddle in the manifold and never make it to the cylinders. Then when you let off the throttle....fuel and n20 solenoids shut down and your revs drop and then...BOOM...the puddle hits your cylinder and detonates like a bomb. I have heard of several people with this problem. Especially on lt1 engines. Bottle heaters are for extra horsepower and are more dangerous than safe. You should have a gauge to watch how high the pressure gets cause it could explode the tank. Running the bottle anywhere form 32-100 degress will net you a tank pressure of 250-700psi which will work just fine....though the n20 won't flow as good if heated up to around 900 psi with a heater ...but in my opinion this is a little high for me....i doubt the bottle will hold more than 1200psi...which is easily attainable if heater gets too hot. So back to your statement. If tank is REALLY cold and n20 flow is really slow and you get too much fuel too soon than you will have a rich mixture that will bog your engine down but this is safer than a lean condition which will put a hole in your piston. Until somebody can show me proof that too much fuel blows intakes off i will keep to my orginal decision...peace...jteuton
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jteuton
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5/09/2002
23:05:35
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I just wanted to calrify in my original message in case its confusing....low pressures don't flow nitrous as well as higher bottle pressures. (hence the reason everybody wants a heater.)..jteuton
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Wesley
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5/09/2002
23:48:53
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If 1200 psi is too high, then why is my NX bottle rated for 3000psi? No, it has never even come remotely close to that pressure, but it is designed to handle up to that pressure. Directly from NX, the ideal pressure is between 950-1050psi. and that is what the bottle heater is designed to do. The NX bottle heater is controlled by a pressure transducer which turns the heater on and off to acheive the desired bottle pressure. It has nothing to do with the temperature of the bottle itself, just the pressure inside of the bottle.
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handi2
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5/10/2002
08:38:04
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All of the bottles should be rated at 3000 psi.
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FazDak
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5/10/2002
11:45:41
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starscream, lol. Yeah, I have noticed they dont answer emails sometimes also.
jteuton, you sound like you are fairly informed but of incorect info.
My bottle sees 1200psi all the time and no I dont think it will blow.
I think you are also wrong about your degrees to psi, my heater keeps a pretty constant 85 and that usually keeps me at about 1000psi.
Just so you know 900 psi is considered optimum but I see more power from 1000 to 1200.
Do you actually have N2O or are you going on what you have read and what people have told you?
Scott
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xplikt
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5/10/2002
11:59:15
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He is right about one thing, puddling = bad!
That's why it's not reccomended that you use it at low RPM.
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