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Rosario
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3/13/2002
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Ok I know I have been askign alot of questions on this lately but I really want to have a fast street truck. I am not very famillier with this type of stuff and trucks I am an import person and I was mor einto designs then engine work. But is it possible to have a street truck a dakota that is. That reaches speeds of 200. I mean I always here someone saying yeha I had my Firebird or camaro doig a buck 50. IS IT POSSIBLE? that sall im asking please dotn bash me for asking. Maybe its a stupid question. Also if its not then what is the top speed I can get out of a v-8 5 speed. Also accleration matters i dont wanna have a 15second zero-60
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Anthony G
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3/13/2002
16:59:55
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200MPH in a Truck! Do you have a Death Wish? Yes F-Body can hit 150MPH with some mods. I even have some Videos of one pegging the Speedo. Stock your looking at 98-115mph on a Dakota, 0-60 from low 7's to high 10's, 1/4 times low 15's to high 17's.
Then you might get some people at sea level with 5-speed saying that can break into the 14's stock. Maybe but I haven't seen one yet. I'm sure 130mph can happend, but 150-200mph would require lots of horsepower and some good aerodynamics to keep it on the ground. You want 200mph get a Z06 or something. Not a Truck
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TotalKaos
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3/13/2002
17:15:18
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Boy Anthony your being pretty damn nice. I was just trying to figure out if Rosario is for real. First it was "how much $ to make 600H.P." and now its can my truck go 200mph, I'm just surprised he's not trying to break the sound barrier or something.
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alex
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3/13/2002
17:19:38
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Oh and here's another question.... have you ever been to 150??? In a truck??? 150 in an Camaro/Firebird is scary and those are built to hit that speed. You really need to go out and make your truck hit top speed and drive right inside the reve limiter for a sustained period before you decide that you need a 200mph street truck.
And running 200 mph is a world record that almost cost John Lingenfelter his life when he flipped his SPECIALLY RACE PREPPED FIREBIRD at 200 mph. That's right Gladis, he was at Bonneville Salt Flats trying to make a Firebird go 200 mph and a breeze caught the car and lifted it right off the surface of the Earth. It barrel rolled for about a mile before it stopped.
You understand that the NASCAR racers are only running 185 mph and maybe 195-198 at the non-restrictor plate races. Have you ever seen the speed equipment and aerodynamics involved in running 200 mph??
I think that you have been reading too many magazines and watching too many crappy movies about being fast or being furious. I think you need to go to a drag strip and talk to people in the pits. You will see that people who have 600 hp engines dont' have them in pickup trucks and they don't drive them on the streets.
You will also see that running 9.90 at 145 mph thru a quarter mile strip is pretty damn amazing for a street car. Even that doesn't take much more than about 500 horspower (in the right car) and it looks a whole lot different when you're the one holding onto the wheel (not standing on the side of the track).
You really really really need to just do a lot more research before people are going to start anwering your questions with any degree of seriousness. Please, for your own sake. Then you won't look so silly....
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MikeD
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3/13/2002
17:22:09
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Goto a junk yard and look for a crashed 757 and strap a jet engine in your bed...I'd say U could get your 600HP fairly easy and you'd definatley get to your 200MPH mark ;)
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Anthony G
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3/13/2002
17:36:07
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Yea, I was thinking same thing. But hey I'll post what I think and maybe that might keep someone else from asking the same question or getting some bright idea thinking anything over 100mph is safe in a truck. I knew someone in a suped up dully that was going over 100mph and did a small wheele from a gust of wind picking the front end up. Sounds bs but I didn't see any reason for that person to lie about it.
Isn't Rosario the name of the maid in Will & Grace show?
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scat pack
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3/13/2002
17:40:26
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Careful Mike, I think he might take you seriously !
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Anthony G
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3/13/2002
17:51:16
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I can even refer him over to one of the agents at my work to get him some pilot insurance :)
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Rosario
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3/13/2002
18:35:05
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Ok god sorry it was just a though if it was possible and actually I wanted to do drag racing in the street legal seriers. Sorry for asking. And yeah whats so wrong with wanting 600hp. I got the cash to do it. And yeah Im not for real im jsut asking these questions to waste all of your time. you all said that 600hp wasnt gunna be reliable at all and to many probelsm. So i asked about a top speed.
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Rosario
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3/13/2002
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Ok god sorry it was just a though if it was possible and actually I wanted to do drag racing in the street legal seriers. Sorry for asking. And yeah whats so wrong with wanting 600hp. I got the cash to do it. And yeah Im not for real im jsut asking these questions to waste all of your time. you all said that 600hp wasnt gunna be reliable at all and to many probelsm. So i asked about a top speed.
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Rosario
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3/13/2002
18:37:54
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Sorry bout the double post. Rosario is my name. Its italian. Ross is short for rosario. And i had no idea about any of this your right thats why I asked isnt that what the boards are for. For information. All i asked was if it was possible and what i would have to do.
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MikeD
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3/13/2002
18:40:00
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Anthony don't think that its too far from believable about that gust of wind...the other day here in Dallas it doesn't get too windy here but one day I decided to punch it on the freeway after carefully lookin for cops and I was toppin out at 110 and this huge gust of wind came along and U can imagine the wind I'm pushin doin 110. Well when that wind came along I literally felt a chill up my spine when I felt my truck about to tip over. I bout sh*t my pants! I'm definately not drivin fast on a windy day again thats for sure.
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joel
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3/13/2002
19:19:21
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Its possible with an extreem amount of power but more then likely not with any dakota engine.
It takes 650 RWHP for a vette to reach 200 mph and airodynamics play a HUGE part in the problem you'll face. So fight it with more power. I'd just guess you'll need a good 850 RWHP to do it.
Joel
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MikeD
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3/13/2002
19:36:50
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Well hey if you got the money to do it...get a 424 or 440 Hemi crate motor from the Mopar catalog. Then you can strap a supercharger or twin turbos on it. Then you can get you a 200-250 shot of nitrous. That might get you up there. All those mods might cost you around $10,000 but hey U said U had it right?
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Rosario
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3/13/2002
19:54:13
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Thanks guys. In all honesty that was jsut a thought. But some major Hp is gunna be added to my truck soon. Stock just isnt good enough. I know i know 610hp is extream but I didnt know it was a big deal. Im gunna try to push 500 to the rear wheels with jsu tmotor and then may possibly add some turbos. I was thinking the Hemi528 also but they say it will f*** up my truck and it wont be reliable. Also yeah 10k isnt that much if ya think about it, 19k for a truck with that much horse. i got mien for 9k
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handi2
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3/13/2002
20:38:18
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I think Rosario is nuts and just messing with us for fun. Ross learn how to spell, or at least proof read your stupid questions before posting.
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Duner
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3/13/2002
20:47:41
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Rosario - What's the quickest/fastest car you have ever driven? Have you ever been in a truck at 100 mph? Have you ever crashed anything that was at speed?
I remember selling a low 12 second car to a guy before that thought 12s was slow because so many of his buddies "supposedly" had 12 second cars. I took the guy for a ride around the block in the car and he about messed his pants! He had no idea that there was that big of a difference between a 14 second car and a 12 second car. He soon found out that his buddies didn't have a clue.... nor did he. The guy bought the car and ended up crashing it on the very first pass down the dragstrip!
The reason I'm saying this is that unless you have some experience with real power, getting too much all at once is just gonna get you killed!
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Rosario
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3/13/2002
21:25:47
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I have been 130 in a firebird not drivivng and 103 ina silverado drivivng. And Handi2 Why are my questions stupid. Seriously whats so stupid about them.
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YA
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3/13/2002
23:05:42
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Ah yes top speed. I like how JR Gotlieb did it in a first generation Camaro years ago. Averaged over 200mph over the Silver State Challenge course. It was a serious machine and a good awnser of the general type of equipment needed to sustain 200mph+
Dakota content: I don't have enough sponsers(MONEY) to do it in my truck!
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alex
Dodge Dakota
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3/14/2002
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Gottlieb had a 540ci Donovan Racing motor that was thumping out about 850hp at about 7500rpm to make that brick go 200mph. He topped out at 220 if I remember correctly, and I have a video of most of the run.
But, Race-ario, if you're gonna put together a street truck, I think you should start small and work your way up. You will be stunned at just the little difference between 103mph and 123 mph when you're the one driving.
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Anon.
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3/14/2002
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Well, for real, I've consistently done low 11's, @116mph+ in the 1/4. This was a stock inline 4, stock exhaust and intake, 119hp @ the crank. It always wheeled off the line.
Only had two wheels though!
I post here often under my real name, just thought I'd post this anon., don't have the bike anymore.
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Jesse T.
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3/14/2002
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Mike D, I remember that day , the same thing happen to me, I was on 114 going to loop12 and i i was going about 85 and that wind rocked my whole truck, It was crazy...From now on no more speeding in bad wind, hell its kinda windy again today.
Jesse T.
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MikeD
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3/14/2002
17:35:57
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Yeah it was kinda like the feeling when your goin down the big drop of a roller coaster. I was like whoa maybe I need to slow down.
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ZenDak
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3/14/2002
17:54:57
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I just wanna say it-
No BS here,,fastest I've ever been was in my '88 Merkur Scorpio - 160 MPH on the speedo, that was pegged!, and screaming like a banshee!
I've heard (but can't confirm where I read this) That someone had joined the 200MPH club in a Merkur XR4Ti,,,but it had a MASSIVE turbo on it (V6).
Topped out a '98 TransAM at 150.....simply a death wish......these were my younger muy stupido days when I was 15.
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