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dasman
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12/21/2001
13:30:24

Subject: are throttle body spacers worth it?
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I am thinking about getting a throttle body spacer for my 4.7. Has anyone put one on there truck and does it make a difference?



Bruce P.
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12/21/2001
20:27:28

RE: are throttle body spacers worth it?
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Do not waste your $$.

On throttle-body-injection engines, you may see some benefit because a spacer insulates the TB from the engine heat.
(The 4.7L V8 hemi is NOT throttle-body-injection AND has a composite intake manafold that insulates the TB allready)

A true cold-air intake or free-flow exhaust (not over 2.5 inches diameter) may be a better way to spend your $$



Aaro
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12/22/2001
08:20:29

RE: are throttle body spacers worth it?
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No!!



R.L.Stuart
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12/22/2001
10:14:47

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I got one on my desk we made a ash tray out of it,Just had to get some use out of it!!!!!!



Wayne
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12/22/2001
13:32:19

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Some claim it helps 4.7s but I haven't seen concrete evidence of that yet. All it does is suck $ out of your pocket and put it in someone elses. What it will do is disturb the smooth flow pattern that we work so hard to achieve. This does nothing for M.P.G. and hurts H.P. Swirl and tumble is only good inside the cylinder head and can only be created as it enters the chamber. That is the technology on the LS-1 engines.



D
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12/22/2001
14:18:04

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looks cool...whistles kinda funny...havent
noticed any power increases :( better throttle
response though.

D
01/4.7/CC/3.55auto/airaid/TBspacer/flowmast
er/JetStageII/DJM drop 3/6/pegleg :(



Robert
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11/19/2002
10:52:17

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Chevy Pickup 350 TBI 5.7 3/4 ton 4x4

They advertise these spacers as being able to produce up to 20 extra horsepower. Is this believable or would it be a waste of money?



???
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11/19/2002
12:38:38

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Gains on a chevy? Should ask at a chevy site.



afi360
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11/20/2002
02:21:40

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yea...i havent heard a dammed thing good about em...i was thinking about getting one as well. nevermind that idea.

but if you really are interested in peeing away $125 bucks, you could just send it to me, and ill send you some old pop cans or some silly putty or something..

**in shadows growing wings**

Patrick ODay
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11/20/2002
02:26:09

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According to my G-tech, No difference in HP with the TB spacer in or out. It makes a nice whistle sound but I would not pay much to get my truck to whistle.

A stock Dakota is great place to start

brianman
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11/20/2002
16:39:00

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they are worth it if you have a metal based intake-they help insulate the tb from heat. they can in most cases work on a system where the fuel is applied before the spacer-by helping swirl and tmble thereby increasing fuel atomization. on a but in most cases such as a 5.9L or 4.7L dont bother the intake is designed for dry flow, so who cares about swirl and tumble, the only place where that matters is in the combustion chamber and intake port where the fuel is mixed. dont bother getting one for the 4.7L.



litlpunisher
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11/20/2002
16:44:40

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20 hp increase on engine dyno, w/ m1 4bbl tb at the higher rpms.

98 Dakota
Bottle fed 340ci

brianman
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11/20/2002
16:52:50

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i forgot to mention they can increase plenum volme, not really good for for low end on carbed vehicles, but if matched correctly ie four holer to four barrel and then tapered to ease air entryinto the manifold they can be benificial by inreasing air velocity which is what we all want.



wade
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11/22/2002
00:53:20

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Thanks all, I have really been wondering this myself, I actually was just going out to buy one for my 2000 4.7. Trick flow makes a 1" spacer as well but with no swirl, does anyone feel this would help? In the Summit catolage they claim it boosts your low rpm torque and increases fuel economy?



Texas Todd
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11/22/2002
09:29:26

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you posted:

for my 2000 4.7. Trick flow makes a 1" spacer as well but with no swirl, does anyone feel this would help? In the Summit catolage they claim it boosts your low rpm torque and increases fuel economy?


Yea right, SHOW ME THE NUMBERS!-Dyno that is

There better things to spend your money on, if you haven't yet, the HO cams can be bought for about $110-FOR THE PAIR!



wade
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11/22/2002
10:31:54

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Who sells the HO cams? I know that KRC sells a few cams for the 4.7 but do not know of anyone else.



Texas Todd
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11/22/2002
11:05:42

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Do a search on this site for the HO cams.

I got a link to a Dodge dealer in Wakefield R.I. I believe, that shipped the HO cams to my door for ~$120 total. I do think KRC now has some slightly different grinds perhaps, but for the money, you can't go wrong there. You can get teh HO manifold too!



brianman
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11/22/2002
13:12:47

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go with the cams, make your own phenolic spacer with some high temp plastic or some well sealed plywood, cut to shape by the gasket and then hand blended.



wade
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11/22/2002
13:23:52

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Thanks guys for the info on the heads and the spacer but what performance gains can be expected with a 1" spacer? I believe the Trick Flow unit is allready made from phenolic but the nice thing is that it includes all the required hardware.



Texas Todd
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11/22/2002
13:53:02

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"what performance gains can be expected with a 1" spacer?"

I wouldn't even try one on my 4.7, but from what I"ve heard.....NONE!



wade
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11/22/2002
14:09:10

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Thanks Tex, guess I'll stick with the K&N cold air intake and forget about the spacer. FYI the guys at KRC said the same.



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